Medical quackery in the US upsets me very, very much

Hrm. All of that stuff, and significantly more was in my $99 (now $199) 23AndMe report

Kehama wrote:
The results came back quickly, which I’ll summarize:

“You tolerate caffeine well.”

“You tolerate lactose well.”

“You are very unlikely to develop celiac disease.”

“You can recover from training quickly, from a genetic standpoint.”

“You have a higher than average soft tissue injury risk. This doesn’t mean you definitely will get injured, just that you should expect recurrent tendon, ligament, and connective tissue issues.”

“You have a 57-43 endurance:power split. This means that you generally respond better to endurance exercise, but you also respond pretty well to power-based training.”

“You have a high sensitivity to carbs, which means that you tolerate them poorly in regards to body weight control and general health.”

“Your fat tolerance is higher than your carb tolerance.”

“You have an elevated genetic need for omega-3 fats and vitamin D. You have versions of certain inflammation genes that predispose you to higher baseline levels of inflammation, which omega-3s specifically regulate.”

None of these results were surprising. Instead, they confirmed an assortment of intuitive conclusions I had come to over the course of my life.

I am not a Doctor, but the highlighted claims are those that I am pretty confident can actually be made with reasonable accuracy based on DNA testing. I have no idea at all if the non-highlighted claims are reasonable or not.

The highlighted attributes can all be diagnosed without DNA testing as well though.

They read like a horoscope. Seriously.

Claiming someone is a low risk of being celiac is a very easy statement to make with about 1% of people suffering.

And about 10% have caffeine sensitivity issues.

I would add them to my medical cold reading repetoire.

Can I short their stock, yet?

Good news! Your ex will be going to jail in the future.

The coeliac one is legit, people who aren't DQ2/DQ8 positive are extremely unlikely to get coeliac. Useful option for people who've already stopped gluten since that can mess up the other tests.

Mayo link if anyone is curious.

A bunch of the others sound like deliberate overinterpretation of real science - I'm sure there are variants of metabolic enzymes you could test for, but whether there's any practical link to diet strategies etc...

It would be interesting to see if you sent a second test/sample, whether it would generate an exact same report.

My ex is on tons of medications and has health issues out the wazoo that doctors and specialists have not been able to fix all her life. Her ex-husband is telling her that he believes with this DNA test he can figure out exactly what her issue is and fix everything in one fell swoop through supplements and diet. I've never liked claims of miracle cures unless I can see them in action with the results reproduced consistently.

Wink_and_the_Gun wrote:

It would be interesting to see if you sent a second test/sample, whether it would generate an exact same report.

Using science to possibly rule out if something else is not science. Nice!

Kehama wrote:

My ex is on tons of medications and has health issues out the wazoo that doctors and specialists have not been able to fix all her life. Her ex-husband is telling her that he believes with this DNA test he can figure out exactly what her issue is and fix everything in one fell swoop through supplements and diet. I've never liked claims of miracle cures unless I can see them in action with the results reproduced consistently.

This reminds me of what got referred to as "the CSI effect" back when that show was incredibly popular; DNA was effectively a magic bullet that revealed all the answer to the police, and it got actually more difficult for prosecutors in real life to try to get convictions, because people had become convinced DNA could give you all the answers to everything, and, without it, it was harder to get a convictions. This sounds like the same thing, like DNA is some magic language that will give all the answers without actually bothering to get into real science.

BUT THEY ARE PUTTING DNA IN FOOD NOW WHAT CAN WE DO.

won't somebody please think of the children:(

dibs wrote:

BUT THEY ARE PUTTING DNA IN FOOD NOW WHAT CAN WE DO.

won't somebody please think of the children:(

We do need to think about our children, before somebody puts DNA into th--

OH MY GOD IT'S TOO LATE.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:
dibs wrote:

BUT THEY ARE PUTTING DNA IN FOOD NOW WHAT CAN WE DO.[/url]

We do need to think about our children, before somebody puts DNA into th--

OH MY GOD IT'S TOO LATE.

Too late for what? My takeaway from this is that we should close the loop and start eating children.

Jonman wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:
dibs wrote:

BUT THEY ARE PUTTING DNA IN FOOD NOW WHAT CAN WE DO.[/url]

We do need to think about our children, before somebody puts DNA into th--

OH MY GOD IT'S TOO LATE.

Too late for what? My takeaway from this is that we should close the loop and start eating children.

Are you insane? They're full of DNA!

MilkmanDanimal wrote:
Jonman wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:
dibs wrote:

BUT THEY ARE PUTTING DNA IN FOOD NOW WHAT CAN WE DO.[/url]

We do need to think about our children, before somebody puts DNA into th--

OH MY GOD IT'S TOO LATE.

Too late for what? My takeaway from this is that we should close the loop and start eating children.

Are you insane? They're full of DNA!

BUT SO IS FOOD! FOOD IS BASICALLY CHILDREN!

Jonman wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:
Jonman wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:
dibs wrote:

BUT THEY ARE PUTTING DNA IN FOOD NOW WHAT CAN WE DO.[/url]

We do need to think about our children, before somebody puts DNA into th--

OH MY GOD IT'S TOO LATE.

Too late for what? My takeaway from this is that we should close the loop and start eating children.

Are you insane? They're full of DNA!

BUT SO IS FOOD! FOOD IS BASICALLY CHILDREN!

We're monsters, every one of us!

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Jonman wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:
Jonman wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:
dibs wrote:

BUT THEY ARE PUTTING DNA IN FOOD NOW WHAT CAN WE DO.[/url]

We do need to think about our children, before somebody puts DNA into th--

OH MY GOD IT'S TOO LATE.

Too late for what? My takeaway from this is that we should close the loop and start eating children.

Are you insane? They're full of DNA!

BUT SO IS FOOD! FOOD IS BASICALLY CHILDREN!

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CHILDREN ARE MADE OUT OF PEOPLE! THEY'RE PEEEEEEOPPPPLLLLLE!!!!!!!!

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"Essential Oils have been around for thousands of years but their healing properties have not wavered."

Mmm hmm.

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"We also offer free Wellness Evaluations at our FitClubs, where we can help you understand your current body composition"

Hint: it's about 70% water

Kehama wrote:

I have no idea if something I've heard about is legit or not so I come to you good folk for your thoughts. And now, as most of my good stories begin, it all starts with my ex-wife.... (fade into a flashback scene)

The ex has told me she's going to be a multi-millionaire soon.

She might end up a millionaire. People will pay for some pretty silly things. And the success of the blood type diet shows that people will definitely pay for the specific thing her company is peddling. But it's all BS.

Mermaidpirate wrote:

"Essential Oils have been around for thousands of years but their healing properties have not wavered."

Mmm hmm.

technically true - the healing properties were zero a thousand years ago and they are still unwaveringly zero today

I've been told that as soon as she gets some sample product in she's going to have my DNA tested as she feels my fitness levels have plateaued over the last few years despite regular exercise and that tailoring my workout based on their data will be invaluable. This should be interesting.

She also went on a long tangent about how their testing method is 99% accurate while a company like 23 and Me is only 60 something percent accurate and then went into the why's and how's. It was interesting stuff but it still didn't address how they're determining that X gene means you're better off eating bacon and doing pushups than cauliflower and jogging.

Kehama wrote:

I've been told that as soon as she gets some sample product in she's going to have my DNA tested as she feels my fitness levels have plateaued over the last few years despite regular exercise and that tailoring my workout based on their data will be invaluable. This should be interesting.

She also went on a long tangent about how their testing method is 99% accurate while a company like 23 and Me is only 60 something percent accurate and then went into the why's and how's. It was interesting stuff but it still didn't address how they're determining that X gene means you're better off eating bacon and doing pushups than cauliflower and jogging.

That's sounds like PR from her new company

I think you'd be hard-pressed to find any MD that can claim any "biology" can be determined to be 99% anything... (I'm not counting "anatomy" or "basic metabolic processes" in there - that sh*t be pretty "locked down").

In Australia, if you are signed up to Choice emails, they've recently put out a survey asking for input on what their future campaigns could be, and one of the options was dubious claims from the alternative health industry. Many other worthy options to check, though.

This is incredible.

12 year old makes devastating video about anti-vaxxers, gets doxxed

They’ve also tried to come at Marco on his Facebook page. One anti-vaxxer challenges Marco to get 1,000 vaccines in one day if he thinks they’re so safe. Marco responded with a challenge of his own, for the anti-vaxxer to eat 10,000 apples in two hours if apples are so safe, or drink 1,000 liters of water, or take 3,000 Tylenol pills, or a billion slices of vegan cheese. Holy sh*t, mic drop. Basically, the anti-vaxxers are fighting a 12-year old and they’re losing, even though they’re fighting dirty.
Kehama wrote:

I've been told that as soon as she gets some sample product in she's going to have my DNA tested as she feels my fitness levels have plateaued over the last few years despite regular exercise and that tailoring my workout based on their data will be invaluable. This should be interesting.

I hope you aren't paying for it.

LeapingGnome wrote:
Kehama wrote:

I've been told that as soon as she gets some sample product in she's going to have my DNA tested as she feels my fitness levels have plateaued over the last few years despite regular exercise and that tailoring my workout based on their data will be invaluable. This should be interesting.

I hope you aren't paying for it.

He gets a discount if he gets 10 other people to buy and use the kit...