Gamers Without Jobs: The resume thread

Very good point. I can't have a positive cover letter and then all of a sudden close with a negative. Thanks for the help. I applied for a few other organizations with a tweaked resume. I hope something comes along.

We'll all be rooting for ya!

Oh, and cover letter does look really good, totally concur with suggestions made thus far.

I'm not getting any bites, no surprise. Miami is ranked 49 in the nation job market in front of Detroit. I updated by added an elevator pitch at the beginning but it something still doesn't feel right. I can't pick it out. So dear friends, I turn to you for assistance. Please help point out my errors.

Just a quick update on the day I had. all credit goes to the contributors of this thread that helped me tweak my resume and coverletters.

I had 2 job interviews today, a call from a recruitment agency asking if they could put me in ofr another one, and a call to tee up an interview next week. Productive day

I'm getting conflicting advice regarding Objectives. Should I bother to put it in or not?

http://www.collegegrad.com/jobsearch...

Edwin wrote:

I'm getting conflicting advice regarding Objectives. Should I bother to put it in or not?

http://www.collegegrad.com/jobsearch...

Personally, I like a 1-2 line summary of your ideal job or the ideal job you'd do for me should I hire you. I find it helps tie the rest of the resume together and gives a starting point for context as I'm reading. It gives me an idea/flavor of the person's personality. Are they fiercely independent, leader, follower, innovator, fixer, cheerleader, implementation person?

I've never refused to speak with someone because I disliked their objective statement, but I have called people in for an interview because there was something about their objective statement that I liked.

Edwin wrote:

I'm getting conflicting advice regarding Objectives. Should I bother to put it in or not?

I always use the cover letter / email to fill that role.

I'm a proponent of having a strong, concise resume, and "personal mission statements" are easy to come across as filler.

That said, I haven't seen a mission statement that would have influenced me one way or the other, hiring-wise.

ARISE THREAD!

Thank you everyone who has contributed to this insightful and helpful thread so far. It's helped me hone down a few things on my cover letter and resume that I'm building to be my generic application for recruitment/placement agencies in the Vancouver area.

However, I've spent so much time going over it I've lost all sense of objectivity, and was wondering if anyone could give it a look-over. I'm generally applying for entry-level office, administration, and reception positions. I've only had one job that qualifies, and the others are listed as proof of consistent employment as well as a variety of positions held should they find work for me outside my scope of preference.

If anyone could take a look over these and give me some pointers, it would be much appreciated

Cover Letter

It seems kind of awkward to mention the immigration and legality aspects of my job seeking in my CL. However, a lot of these agencies get applicants who are trying to find work before they even begin the immigration process, so I want to establish somehow that I'm not one of those. The problem with that is I fear it may open me up to immigrant-based discrimination (which seems kind of rampant around here based on some of the things I've observed in various job postings).

Resume

Anyway, I greatly appreciate any feedback you may have. Thanks!

The only thing I would suggest is to list he actual Auto Desk product you are using; just putting CAD in parenthesis after it doesn't mean much. Had you just typed AutoCAD it would have been fine, but I don't think most people know that Auto Desk is the maker of it. Just a small nitpcik on my part, since I have used other Auto Desk products in the past that all did Computer Aided Drafting.

The format and writing looks good.

My only recommendation is to tailor your resume towards the type of job you are seeking. It's good to say that you have people skills from an admin position, but if you are looking for a design job chances are that they won't care about your clerical/customer service experience. It is okay to omit experience or job duties that aren't relevant to the job you are seeking (as long as there are no gaps in employment, of course).

Good luck.

Nevin73 wrote:

The format and writing looks good.

My only recommendation is to tailor your resume towards the type of job you are seeking. It's good to say that you have people skills from an admin position, but if you are looking for a design job chances are that they won't care about your clerical/customer service experience. It is okay to omit experience or job duties that aren't relevant to the job you are seeking (as long as there are no gaps in employment, of course).

Good luck.

What he said
As part of my course we had a recruitment consultant come and speak to us about what they look for when they are assessing cover letters and resumes. The dude said to also target your cover letter to the job you are applying for by using the words they've used in their key selection criteria in the body of your letter.

Good luck

Definitely target your cover letter - and not only are keywords from their job description a good idea, relate what they want to something you did in a previous job - and let them know the outcome of your hard work. Did you save company X thousands of dollars? Did you discover economical ways to make things more efficient?

The job market is really competitive so you have to whore yourself out a little to make yourself stand out.

I would also recommend interviewing with local job agencies. The jobs are usually not the stuff you'd want to make a career out of, but it gets your foot in the door and - more importantly - gets you local references. Once you have local references (most places are too damn cheap to call long-distance) you'll find a lot more doors open up for you.

Your resume is OK, it's very standard actually, but it doesn't showcase your talents and work history particularly well. For instance, "Comfortable answering and directing incoming calls and emails, taking messages, and greeting clients in a professional environment"

Most employers assume that if you have a job that requires any interaction with the public at all, that you will be polite, professional and are comfortable talking to people. It would be better to tell them something like, "I'm comfortable working with a 25-line switchboard and a high volume of incoming calls." Or something to that effect. That shows you've got some serious front-end training and that you are more than say the secretary from Ghostbusters before they actually had any customers.

HR people see hundreds of resumes a day, and if yours looks like everyone else's, or if they actually have to read it and figure things out for themselves...they won't get past the middle of the first page. I know that sounds harsh, but it's true.

Keywords and easy to scan resumes are you best bet. If you have a lot of experience managing offices, why not have section called Office Management on your resume and sing your own praises there? That way the HR drone can pick out "Office Management" easily, scan the well-formatted points you make about all the things you were responsible for and how awesome you were at it and bingo - your resume just got read. That's the first step.

My earlier offer to help you with your resume and cover letter still stands - pm me and we'll meet up!

I also am in this process and have received some great advise from this forum. One thing that was mentioned to me and I feel applies to your cover letter is avoid negatives. Raising immigration issues isn't necessary and can give the recipient a reason to off handedly pass over your resume. I'd leave that out and bring all that up in the interview. Thats the kind of stuff best discussed in person.

Blotto The Clown wrote:

I also am in this process and have received some great advise from this forum. One thing that was mentioned to me and I feel applies to your cover letter is avoid negatives. Raising immigration issues isn't necessary and can give the recipient a reason to off handedly pass over your resume. I'd leave that out and bring all that up in the interview. Thats the kind of stuff best discussed in person.

Should I leave out the location and contact info for my previous work details (since that info implies that all of my work history is outside of the country?) I've considered it, since keeping it in there causes them to hone in and ask "Do you have your SI#/PR Card/Have you even started the immigration process yet/are you even legal to work?"

I'm kind of intimidated by the negativity and frustration regarding immigrants I've run into so far regarding employers when handing out resumes in person (sans cover letter detail - bad mistake, I know, but that was before I found this thread). I feel like I should be wearing a sandwich board with "HAVE SI#/PR, NOT HERE JUST TO TAKE UR JOBS, I MARRIED A LOCAL SRY" printed on the back and front everywhere I go. I understand that in a dampened economy, people may be protective of their local job markets regarding invaders, I just don't know how to avoid them putting up dismissive barriers before I have a chance to explain my situation.

Nevin: the position I'm looking for is to be added to a recruitment/temp agency roster where I could be placed anywhere from offices to retail to warehouse, so it's tricky getting the right balance of specificity and jack-of-all trades in that pursuit. I actually do have a design-focused resume that wasn't posted to the google document site with design jobs/internships/skills only, but that's not something I'm considering yet because it's expensive to get my degree and education equivocated so that they're recognized in this country. Thanks for pointing that out and catching that detail, though.

Mimble, See you monday! I'll be bringing both design and general resumes and I'll be thinking about what you and everyone else has mentioned so far : )

Thanks so much everyone!

If there are any of you out there still unemployed and looking to polish your resume, this book is an excellent resource. I highly recommend it! So much of what was in here was reiterated by Mimble's resume writing tips that I felt the rest of you could also benefit from it if you're looking to sharpen up your resume.

How to Say It on Your Resume: A Top Recruiting Director's Guide to Writing the Perfect Resume of Every Job.

So, I saved up some money, quit my job and left town. I'm now in Massachusetts, thought about making a LFG/LFW thread but I'm not one for making a spectacle of myself.

Anyway, I've been here four days and chanced across an intriguing job in the field I've both wanted to enter and majored in at college. My resume is what it is, 10+ years of retail/retail management and my education. I figure with the skimpy nature of the resume, I need a banger of a cover letter. I have my first draft, and was wondering if anyone would give it a read/critique for me?

I have very little experience actually trying to find new employment. All my interviews in the last 10 years have been within my company. Any other advice would be greatly appreciated.

Blind_Evil wrote:

So, I saved up some money, quit my job and left town. I'm now in Massachusetts, thought about making a LFG/LFW thread but I'm not one for making a spectacle of myself.

Anyway, I've been here four days and chanced across an intriguing job in the field I've both wanted to enter and majored in at college. My resume is what it is, 10+ years of retail/retail management and my education. I figure with the skimpy nature of the resume, I need a banger of a cover letter. I have my first draft, and was wondering if anyone would give it a read/critique for me?

I have very little experience actually trying to find new employment. All my interviews in the last 10 years have been within my company. Any other advice would be greatly appreciated.

Sure, man. Send an email to Erik at this website.

My employment ends on the 20th. I'll probably be shooting you en email too, Erik. I do have experience finding work, but my resume could use some updating for sure.

wordsmythe wrote:

Send an email to Erik at this website.

Done, I think. I may have neglected to say thanks in the email, so thanks!

edited for silliness.

Blind_Evil wrote:
wordsmythe wrote:

Send an email to Erik at this website.

Done, I think. I may have neglected to say thanks in the email, so thanks!

edited for silliness.

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garion333 wrote:

My employment ends on the 20th. I'll probably be shooting you en email too, Erik. I do have experience finding work, but my resume could use some updating for sure.

What with all this lately? I know Cayne and I both got made redundant recently and I'm sure there are more out there as well.

For the last two years I've been managing a business that is dedicated to getting people into work, so I'm always happy to cast my eye over resumes.

Thank you for that suggestion I will get right on that for improving my resume.

I have a resume question for my wife. She is currently a park ranger in a state park. She actually started working for the parks dept summers while in college, then after graduation got a full time job with them and has been there ever since. In other words, this is the only job she's ever had. She's going on 20 years now.

How would she best present herself in a resume with only one job for experience? I assume she would just provide a lot more detail than one would ordinarily do with multiple jobs to list. She has plenty of training and management experience that she can list, in addition to the other normal rangerly experience.

She is hoping that her park manager experience will translate into some sort of management position in the private sector, but doesn't know in what field exactly. She's just beginning to poke around and see what's out there.

Make sure she doesn't think of it as 'one job' for starters. Someone who only worked in the Marines for 20 years for instance would have probably held many roles over the years.

Start by treating the major promotions as one tier of break out and then major projects within those. If her role has really been pretty consistent over that time she should still be able to identify key initiatives that represent the kind of responsibility and leadership she is capable of executing.

PHOENIX DOWN!!

Ok, so I´m in a weird situation, because I don´t think the industry I´m in is in the same planet as other industries. That is Film and Television, and I have fired my stupid-ass agent. He´s a moron who subtracted rather than added to my work. Anyways, I talked to my lawyer. He´s based in LA as well, so I thought maybe he could help me out moving a script I´ve written in English. English might not be my first language, but it´s damn well over most 100% by real english-speaking americans. Enough horn tooting.

Point is, most of the work I´ve done, is in Spanish, for Mexican Television and Film. That feature script is the only writing sample I have of material for English. My lawyer suggested the following, to write a letter addressing what I´ve done (remove any information about producing, as agents aren´t interested in producing, so that really narrows down my list of accomplishments), stick to the writing aspect of it, and attach the script to it and email it to him. He would send it out to some of his contacts.

I´ve tried and tried to interpret those words, and every single time, i come up with: He wants a Resumé Cover Letter, without the actual Resumé. I´ve looked online for sample cover letters, but this is a strange situation. If he´s gonna pass it along to some of his contacts, does that count as a Cover Letter with Referral? I just shot him an email actually asking him that.

But if indeed, what he wants is something similar to a Cover Letter only, any tips on this special situation?

In writing, they call that a "query letter". You might get better information googling around on that.

Ok. I love how concise my lawyer is. It´s like decrypting ancient Prothean.

His reply:

i just need something with the facts: what you’ve done, credits, new projects, etc.

Thoughts? I´m really lost. I feel if I follow what he asks, I will end up with literally, like 4 lines. 5 sentences, tops, and I don´t know why, something inside me tells me that´s not the way to go.

I will google Query Letter, and see what I come up with. Thanks for the heads up.

Do you know anyone in Miami? A huge amount of Spanish-language TV is produced there too.

Hey guys. I'm about to start applying for internships and was looking for some folks to read my resume. I'd especially appreciate any engineers taking a peek. I've been reading the various GWJ threads on this and they've really been a big help.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5Vz...

edit: This is kind of a rough draft, so some of the details aren't quite straight yet. The cover letter still needs formatting, and I've got the wrong job title in the objective section.

kazooka wrote:

Hey guys. I'm about to start applying for internships and was looking for some folks to read my resume. I'd especially appreciate any engineers taking a peek. I've been reading the various GWJ threads on this and they've really been a big help.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5Vz...

edit: This is kind of a rough draft, so some of the details aren't quite straight yet. The cover letter still needs formatting, and I've got the wrong job title in the objective section.

I'm not an expert nor do i do any hiring but it seems to be well written and the cover letter seems good for the job. I think most places say the objective is a section of the pass. Also, glad to see you are interested in controls engineering. That's something I'm trying to do more to learn in my job capacity. When you do start job hunting, look at ABB. Anything that has to do with their 800xA system is controls heavy!