Playstation 4

Localgod54 wrote:

In response to your lack of enthusiasm for MM or MGS, I understand. I specifically skipped the Witcher because I knew Fallout and MGS were coming. I'm could almost say I'm still a little burned out from DA: Inquisition and that was quite a while back.

For what it's worth, having played DA:I, W3, and now getting into MGSV:TPP, the sandboxing in TPP is a lot smaller and a lot less strenuous than its fantasy counterparts.
There's less to do in the sandbox, and it's easier to treat the whole thing as a series of isolated missions.
Plus you have multiple different approaches to each infiltration. Do you recon the place with binoculars and stealth it? Go in with guns and grenades? Snipe? Compared to the fantasy duo, there's more freedom in how you approach everything, rather than a standard array of spells and abilities to be fired off in sequence every time.
Anyway, I also got burned out on DA:I and W3, but I'm really digging TPP.
If you're interested in my review, here you go.

Nice review. Thanks, Taharka.

By the way, I'll be in your neck for the Pats game. Banner time.

Localgod54 wrote:
Cobble wrote:

skipping the witcher for any reason is unadvised :)

"Skipping" is strong. I have a disc-based version sitting on my shelf, waiting for a rainy day.

Noah didn't have enough rainy days to finish the Witcher.

The Witcher 3 is on sale on PSN right now. If I were to pick it up (having never played the Witcher games) would you suggest getting the expansion pass at the same time?

Rahmen wrote:

The Witcher 3 is on sale on PSN right now. If I were to pick it up (having never played the Witcher games) would you suggest getting the expansion pass at the same time?

I wouldn't. There's a ton of free DLC and the main game could last you up to 300 hours. But that's me.

Rahmen wrote:

The Witcher 3 is on sale on PSN right now. If I were to pick it up (having never played the Witcher games) would you suggest getting the expansion pass at the same time?

Just wait. So much content in the base game.

Thanks for the quick responses.

EA Hates children on the PS4

My children have sub accounts on PS4. They need an EA account to play Plants vs Zombies GW. So I set them up with adult EA accounts and they won't connect! Put a few hours of research into it to no avail. Lots of pissed off kids and parents out there.

When they get older, I will make them full blown PS4 accounts so they can play games for 7 year olds.

Greg wrote:

EA Hates children on the PS4

My children have sub accounts on PS4. They need an EA account to play Plants vs Zombies GW. So I set them up with adult EA accounts and they won't connect! Put a few hours of research into it to no avail. Lots of pissed off kids and parents out there.

When they get older, I will make them full blown PS4 accounts so they can play games for 7 year olds.

They've been doing this for a while. A few years ago I renewed my Xbox Live Gold account to play Need for Speed Hot Pursuit online. Turned out that my account had a bad birthday on it (born in 1776) and EA would not recognize it as an adult account, and therefore I could not play online. Both Microsoft and EA refused to budge. Earlier this year when I got an Xbox One, I started over with a new account.

Aristophan wrote:
Greg wrote:

EA Hates children on the PS4

My children have sub accounts on PS4. They need an EA account to play Plants vs Zombies GW. So I set them up with adult EA accounts and they won't connect! Put a few hours of research into it to no avail. Lots of pissed off kids and parents out there.

When they get older, I will make them full blown PS4 accounts so they can play games for 7 year olds.

They've been doing this for a while. A few years ago I renewed my Xbox Live Gold account to play Need for Speed Hot Pursuit online. Turned out that my account had a bad birthday on it (born in 1776) and EA would not recognize it as an adult account, and therefore I could not play online. Both Microsoft and EA refused to budge. Earlier this year when I got an Xbox One, I started over with a new account.

I decided that this has nothing to do with protecting the children. This problem has existed for years and would have been easy to fix. However, if they fixed it, they would have players who would be prevented from buying stuff from their online store. If they force the parent to pretend that their kid is an adult, they force the parent to give children access to the store.

The errors that I received were interesting. In PSN, i had the children restricted so that they could not see age restricted content in the store. PVZ would have none of that and gave a strange error message. When I unblocked the store, it gave me another unspecific error message that I had to google to figure out.

So I am stuck because PSN knows my children are under 18 and EA requires a user to be 18 to have an account and the birthdays do not match.

Reading accounts about teenagers not able to play Madden or FIFA online makes me angry. Going on for years.

Aristophan wrote:

Turned out that my account had a bad birthday on it (born in 1776) and EA would not recognize it as an adult account

I would certainly think you'd be old enough to see adult content.

imbiginjapan wrote:

I'm not convinced the game has all that much depth though. Unless you play as one of the clans with a fleshed-out quest line, there isn't a lot to differentiate one clan from another. The selection of policies and officers might differ but ultimately these differences are pretty abstract and the power of a large population pretty much outweighs other considerations.

So to continue the Nobunaga conversation with myself... this is one odd strategy game. I feel like it's ultimately going to disappoint me. The main problem is you need to plan your strategy in service of the story they are trying to tell rather than the story developing from the strategy you implement. If you stray off the One True Path, events will just stop happening altogether. Heck, even the AI can break the storyline if one clan expands too much. It's like you already need to know the way things go in order to experience the story, which is... unsatisfying for someone who hasn't been steeped in this stuff. Ironically the old NES games were much more about putting the player in control of their own destiny. Maybe I don't like the way these games have evolved over the ensuing decades. Even the battle system feels less about giving the player control and more about instigating drama.

imbiginjapan wrote:

So to continue the Nobunaga conversation with myself... this is one odd strategy game. I feel like it's ultimately going to disappoint me. The main problem is you need to plan your strategy in service of the story they are trying to tell rather than the story developing from the strategy you implement. If you stray off the One True Path, events will just stop happening altogether. It's like you already need to know the way things go in order to experience the story, which is... unsatisfying for someone who hasn't been steeped in this stuff. Ironically the old NES games were much more about putting the player in control of their own destiny. Maybe I don't like the way these games have evolved over the ensuing decades.

I've been thinking about getting this, so the conversation you have been having with yourself about it has at least one lurker.

TheHarpoMarxist wrote:

I've been thinking about getting this, so the conversation you have been having with yourself about it has at least one lurker. :)

I think I might have been happier getting Shogun 2 on PC. Live and learn.

Edit: Here's a prime example of what I'm talking about from the Steam Threads, about someone asking how to get the Oda storyline to advance from Scenario 1 to Scenario 2 without starting over with scenario 2.

1.The Tokuwaga must own Mikawa and be Allies(happen after the event battle(which itself happen after the unification of owari quest), provided you did not go leroy on imagawa)
2.The Azai must own Omi
3.Oichi must not be wed(she will in a event)
4.The Saito clan must own Mino and of course, the Oda must own Owari(and ONLY Owari)
5. Nagashima should be left alone for a future quest as well
6. Also, don't take Inayabama from the saito straight away, recruit Hideyoshi first, it will unlock a quest for the overnight castle(and the future recruiting of hanbei after the defeat of the saitos)

WHAAAAAAAT?

Make that two lurkers.

So to complete my ramblings. All that said, there IS an alternative way to play, and that is to pick a clan with a cool flag, refuse any historical quests offered (thus breaking the event chain) and just play until 1700. Whether the strategic game has enough meat on its bones to support that free-form style of play is something I can't really comment on at this time. I'll probably give it a go in that fashion though before packing it in.

How much of this is a side effect of the game recreating events from Japanese history that the (originally Japanese) audience would be expected to have known and internalized? Like, the way that if you were doing a game about the American Revolution with historic quests, Americans would know to pick Washington as the first President.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

How much of this is a side effect of the game recreating events from Japanese history that the (originally Japanese) audience would be expected to have known and internalized? Like, the way that if you were doing a game about the American Revolution with historic quests, Americans would know to pick Washington as the first President.

In a fashion that is accurate. I think that the "reward" of playing the game is meant to be the retelling of history in a dramatic fashion... seeing all the cool artwork, the fun dialogue etc... rather than the satisfaction of expanding your clan or coming up with clever solutions to problems. If you have some broad understanding of the conditions you're certainly at an advantage. To give an American example, you might need to make sure conditions are correct by the end of 1776 to see Washington cross the Delaware. If you take Trenton too early the event wouldn't happen. The problem I have is that much of that reward content is restricted to following a closed pathway within a chaotic system which involves trial and error and a bit of luck. There are no random events that could trigger at different times or for different clans than historically occurred, so creative solutions to problems are discouraged unless you want to play a very sterile game.

One example I ran into was I was told to surround a certain castle as a quest. I did so with approximately 6000 soldiers. After doing so an "event battle" triggered in which I was only given 1500 soldiers and was required to melee attack the enemy. The battlefield conditions I engineered were ignored in favor of retelling the exact (well in the high-drama sense) history of the real engagement. I could have skipped the battle but that would have ended the entire quest-line.

Three lurkers. I definitely want to get it when finances permit.

Does anyone else think it would be nice for the game to have its own thread? There were a few people posting about it a couple of weeks ago, split between multiple threads, and a few people expressing interest in it. It all feels a bit spread out.

imbiginjapan wrote:

I think I might have been happier getting Shogun 2 on PC. Live and learn.

Shogun II is definitely worth getting. Great game.

frogbeastegg wrote:

Three lurkers. I definitely want to get it when finances permit.

Does anyone else think it would be nice for the game to have its own thread?

Part lurker and part player. Haven't had a chance to really dive deep into the game since there have been other things taking my attention.

However, I did go ahead and set up a new thread if we want to move the talk over there.

If you haven't played Driveclub yet and want to, its 20 bucks for full version including all the dlc on PSN.

Fastmav347 wrote:

If you haven't played Driveclub yet and want to, its 20 bucks for full version including all the dlc on PSN.

That's a huge of chunk of racing for that price.

It truly is a great driving game too.

You can scratch the social Forza Horizon itch completing the asynchronous challenges between team members and friends, sometimes sacrificing a winning run just to beat a friend.

or

Ignore all that, and hone in on the racing. Seriously, I have had many a 'zen' moment trying to shave 1/1000th of a second off a lap run to get a gold ranking.

$20 for Driveclub and all DLC? That's a great deal for a great game. Ignore the mediocre scores if they still exist, due to the original server problems, this is an all time classic racing game.

I picked up drive club and created a new club called GWJ Over 9000 because all the others seemed full. Feel free to join it.

PS4 is getting a price drop in Japan.

My guess is that we won't see that over here because the console is flailing a bit in Japan, but not the rest of the world.

Yeah the mediocre reviews for Driveclub are a joke, it's a class racing game with masses of content & lots of diversity in the handling & feel of the vehicles. Visually amazing with weather effects that won't be beaten for a long long time.

I so hope Evolution get to make another game on the PS4, a Motorstorm game would be insane.

Gravity Rush: Remastered and Gravity Rush 2 announced for PS4:

The Sorrow of Sacrifice and Snow (aka, Project Setsuna), a classic-style JRPG from Square-Enix:

13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim, a new post-apocalyptic game with mechs from the developers of Odin's Sphere and Muramasa:

Lots more over in the JRPG thread. It's TGS time!

Those all look pretty good, although I won't need to buy Gravity Rush again. I'll probably get Gravity Rush 2, though.

I'm all over Gravity Rush: Remastered and 2 like... well, gravity on a planet.
Or something. Was trying too hard.

Do we know anything about the lower power PS4 (CUH-1200 I think) coming to NA? Saw it's out in Japan and Europe. Couldn't google a release date for the US.

EDIT: Ah I finally found a reddit thread that seems to indicate they are here at some stores.