Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen Catch-All

Stele wrote:

Added all the people that posted the last couple pages that didn't say they were on 360. So Infyrnos, brokenclavicle, CptDomano. Please accept my friend request if you have pawns for me to use. :D

Done! Have fun with the Pawn =)

I love PS+: I only tried out Dragon's Dogma because it was free and I'm really enjoying it. It's the first game for ages I've sat down and played for 2 hours at a sitting and it's reminding me just how much I really do love gaming after a bit of time away.

Something about the combat and the unstructured way everything is presented really works. It's all kind of loose and organic somehow: no lock on in combat suits the feel of the game. I've killed two ogres so far by tricking them into running off cliffs.

Grenn wrote:
Stele wrote:

Kind of limiting, so far, only going to two cities and being seemingly rare items. I found one in the first big city and found 3 on a wandering shop I found in the noble quarter.
Maybe I'm just doing a bad job of taking side quests that are in the same direction. But I feel like I spent a ton of time wandering around yesterday.

You find several more portcrystals that you can place and remove all over the world. In the original game, there was only one in Gran Soren, not even the original town. Still, a lot of running in this game.

This is the greatest flaw of Dark Arisen and the greatest draw of Dragon's Dogma.

The running around is what gets you materials (and learn where they may be found!), lets you find places in the world, levels you up and also lets you engage in the most enjoyable part of the game - combat.

This is fine when you're low level (at least, it never bothered me) but at higher levels you don't want or need to do all the stuff in between points A and B. They pseudo fixed this for new players of Dark Arisen by adding in more portcrystals (you can buy them from the Black Cat as well as find 4-5 of them in the world) but the ferrystones are still WAY overpriced for their function. Unfortunately, they added in an eternal Ferrystone that does not get used up but only for players who import their save games/characters from Dragon's Dogma.

This means that I probably enjoy the "end game" much more than a person who purchased and played only Dark Arisen because it's that much more a streamlined experience. I really stand by my assertion that they should not have locked the Eternal Ferrystone to players who import from the original and instead introduce it as a mid-game reward (say, post-"true ending") as a reward for re-starting.

Absolutely. The Eternal Ferrystone should be available for all players.

Guess I just didn't port around much, but I never really ran low on cash or the ferrystones, just always kept about 10 in inventory and didn't feel it was any sort of hardship.

I rarely buy anything from vendors this playthrough. As such, I'm heading to Blue Tower to fight the Griffin with some decent gear from quest rewards and gather spots with almost 2,000,000 gold in my inventory. This is without selling the golden weapons from quests. I usually have around 10 ferrystones in inventory as well. The Black Cat has them the cheapest I've seen at 2000 gold. Also, there's a few respawning free ones to be collected. Every 5-10 days you can find one in the port crystal circle in Gran Soren and one on the boat in the back of that castle that houses the male bandit group. There's probably more respawning elsewhere, but I don't really care to look them up.

edit* I remembered, there's also one in the cave at the hill figure.

Grenn wrote:

I rarely buy anything from vendors this playthrough. As such, I'm heading to Blue Tower to fight the Griffin with some decent gear from quest rewards and gather spots with almost 2,000,000 gold in my inventory. This is without selling the golden weapons from quests. I usually have around 10 ferrystones in inventory as well. The Black Cat has them the cheapest I've seen at 2000 gold. Also, there's a few respawning free ones to be collected. Every 5-10 days you can find one in the port crystal circle in Gran Soren and one on the boat in the back of that castle that houses the male bandit group. There's probably more respawning elsewhere, but I don't really care to look them up.

edit* I remembered, there's also one in the cave at the hill figure.

2000? I thought it was 20,000 at the Black Cat? Must have gotten myself confused. Never knew about that respawning ferrystone in the boat behind Aernst Castle though. Thanks!

This lays it all out.

Looks like quite a bit has changed since DA. Yeah, The Black Cat has them for 2000 gold and there are a load of locations that spawn them for free that I never realised or found!

Stele wrote:

Added all the people that posted the last couple pages that didn't say they were on 360. So Infyrnos, brokenclavicle, CptDomano. Please accept my friend request if you have pawns for me to use. :D

Accepted, although I stalled out a bit on my play through so I think you're already past me in terms.of level. Either way, feel free to use the pawn if you want

Dammit I was just at that castle last night for that tome quest, and I even wandered down to the dock, but didn't see anything to pick up on the ship.

Stele wrote:

Dammit I was just at that castle last night for that tome quest, and I even wandered down to the dock, but didn't see anything to pick up on the ship. :(

The very tip facing the ocean. Past the mast.

Stele wrote:

Added all the people that posted the last couple pages that didn't say they were on 360. So Infyrnos, brokenclavicle, CptDomano. Please accept my friend request if you have pawns for me to use. :D

Adding tonight; haven't connected in days hehehe

Well, my PS3 crapped out on me. I had a warranty and they swapped it out for free. The problem is that my saved files are gone. So, character reroll for me. I did want to try out a magic guy this time. Still, though, that's annoying.

Ugh. That's bad. I wouldn't want to loose my save just incase I want to go back in some time.

Higgledy wrote:

Ugh. That's bad. I wouldn't want to loose my save just incase I want to go back in some time.

Which makes it all the more annoying that some games don't let you copy the files from the HDD to another device! (Looking at you, XCOM!)

Thankfully, Dragon's Dogma has no such restraint... though you often don't even consider backing stuff up on console anyway... no idea how far back my back up save is!

Really unfortunate, Grenn!

Duoae wrote:
Higgledy wrote:

Ugh. That's bad. I wouldn't want to loose my save just incase I want to go back in some time.

Which makes it all the more annoying that some games don't let you copy the files from the HDD to another device! (Looking at you, XCOM!)

Thankfully, Dragon's Dogma has no such restraint... though you often don't even consider backing stuff up on console anyway... no idea how far back my back up save is!

Really unfortunate, Grenn!

And this is why I'm glad I have PS+, which supports cloud saves.

Sorry to hear that Grenn. Though it does speak to how much you like the game that you want to start over. For me personally, for most games, losing the save would make me never want to play that game again.

Garden Ninja wrote:
Duoae wrote:
Higgledy wrote:

Ugh. That's bad. I wouldn't want to loose my save just incase I want to go back in some time.

Which makes it all the more annoying that some games don't let you copy the files from the HDD to another device! (Looking at you, XCOM!)

Thankfully, Dragon's Dogma has no such restraint... though you often don't even consider backing stuff up on console anyway... no idea how far back my back up save is!

Really unfortunate, Grenn!

And this is why I'm glad I have PS+, which supports cloud saves.

Sorry to hear that Grenn. Though it does speak to how much you like the game that you want to start over. For me personally, for most games, losing the save would make me never want to play that game again.

A long time ago when I was working on an onion farm, my employer once gave me words of wisdom. He said, "If it jams, force it. If it breaks, well, it needed replacing anyway." That has affected my life so much that I can say this in all honesty. I didn't really like my character build. I think I'll go magic archer/magic knight this time.

Yeah PS+ saves you from that problem, and in the case of some games (rock band 3) is the only way to backup saves.

Stele wrote:

Yeah PS+ saves you from that problem, and in the case of some games (rock band 3) is the only way to backup saves.

Yet that's not a real solution because you're being falsely forced into the situation in the first place...

I started playing this game thanks to PS+. Where the hell did my weekend go? Why am I at work? My Ranger is now level 21 and we've started clearing the Ancient Mine/Quarry thingy. With my crew full of ladies. Turns out that's a bit problematic. Luckily I must have touched a checkpoint right before the first big battle and after a couple of failed attempts we managed to drop Mr. RedButt the angry. Lessons learned: Ogres can squeeze into surprisingly tight tunnels to follow you. Ogres do NOT like being climbed on, and if this is done while in surprisingly tight tunnels there's no where to go when they show their displeasure. Ogres can drop-kick multiple times in a row. It takes a shocking number of arrows to the face to make an Ogre feel it.

Things that feel like maybe I'm missing something:
1) The Combining system. It FEELS like it should be useful, but it is REALLY annoying trying to find interesting combinations and not just variations on Fatback and Oil. Am I missing some visual cues or easy curative combinations?
2) Quests. I was notified that I can no longer do one of my quests. This was done in a situation where there was no way to revert to a previous checkpoint, because the only way to advance from the previous checkpoint immediately triggers the thing that makes the quest inaccessible. I didn't really want to find that lady anyway, but now I'm worried about other quests having similar issues. Do I need to clear my quest list before advancing the story?
3) Stockpile. I'm not hurting for money. Is there any reason to not stockpile all my stuff rather than selling?
and 4) Why are half of my curatives rotting? WHY CAN'T I MAKE JERKY?

1) Don't worry about combining. If you do enough searching, hoarding and collecting then you'll very rarely need to combine. I do it every now and again out of an OCD desire to know everything... Otherwise, look on the DD wiki for what you need and see if you have the components (or where to buy them or the thing in the first place)

2) Yep, that bit me too the first playthrough. It cuts off a huge chunk of quests but, really, you're okay without them and can do them again "next time". It happens to a lesser extent about two more times in the game and it warns you each time it does... that first time? No! :/

3) Stockpile everything. Storage is infinite and hoarders aren't penalised in this game.

4) Organic things decay in this game - you can combine them with a sealed flask to make digital jerky OR if you transfer them into storage they enter some sort of stasis whereby they do not age at all.
Some quests will require slightly degraded items, other combinations will also require stuff like that as well...

5) Welcome to the fold!

Sweet, Good to know! I did figure out that the game doesn't seem to care how many open quests you have and so it is pointless to NOT grab all the kill X of Y quests. I don't understand why they don't just make that a latent reward structure instead of forcing you to find the billboard first. Maybe that would make it too video-gamey?

I don't remember if I did any privacy stuff on my PSN account, but I'm pretty sure I'm RezzyJS there.
So far I only see Stele's pawn (and I wasn't sure if hiring a higher-level Pawn would nerf/boost encounters too much), but my PSN friend list is pretty empty. I also have notifications subdued pretty harshly since it is my wife's preferred Netflix device, but I'll be scanning for friend invites if anyone is so inclined.

If you hire a pawn that is at below your level it is free, but friend's pawns are always free. Some of us have played for a while, so we have higher level pawns. Having higher level pawns does not boost the encounters, and it could make them easier. However, even when I played with a few higher level pawns, I never felt that they were doing all the work.

Duoae wrote:

4) Organic things decay in this game...

well...I guess that explains why I get a bunch of rotten stuff in my inventory. I never noticed that before and now I feel dumb for not putting that together.

Aristophan wrote:

If you hire a pawn that is at below your level it is free, but friend's pawns are always free. Some of us have played for a while, so we have higher level pawns. Having higher level pawns does not boost the encounters, and it could make them easier. However, even when I played with a few higher level pawns, I never felt that they were doing all the work.

I hired a level 80 Sorcerer when I was level 20 just to see what it was like. Every encounter went the same way: start the fight with all normal melee and bows, and then after about 30 seconds everything would go black as the level 80 cast a massive whirlwind spell and all I would see is the little "+140xp" messages popping up. Kind of boring after a while

Yeah high level mages seem to have some nice AoE spells that will wreak havoc.

Having a high level fighter tanking for me has always been helpful though, and never felt like it was too overpowered. Just doing his job taunting.

Really enjoying this so far. Started as a strider and have just got to the point where I get a hunting license. Switched over to assassin and my goodness the "Easy Kill" skill animation is brutal. Also switched "Friend" my pawn from mage to sorcerer and recruited a random healer mage, Feel pretty bad ass right now....

Expect update where I get my ass handed to me for being over confidant soon.

Also not had anyone hire my pawn at all. Maybe I've missed the sweet spot as lot's of players have already finished the game? or are looking for higher levels?

Did a couple more sidequests and looted the countryside to gain a couple more levels before tackling the rest of the enemies in the Ancient Quarry. The fights went much better this time especially since I decided to throw my hoarding tendencies to the wind and actually use some of the offensive items in my inventory. Oil Arrows, Dragon-Spit, Blast Arrows and spam special powers, snarf some stamina items, repeat.
I am falling in love with the Ranger 10-shot ability. I will be sad when I have to start cross-classing and lose my long-bow.

strangederby wrote:

Also not had anyone hire my pawn at all. Maybe I've missed the sweet spot as lot's of players have already finished the game? or are looking for higher levels?

Think it really just has alot to do with very few people playing anymore. Most of the people on my friends list had already finished playing, or did not own it, so my pawn was never hired out either. Not sure how much of a difference that would have made though, the game felt pretty complete as was.

Rezzy wrote:

The fights went much better this time especially since I decided to throw my hoarding tendencies to the wind and actually use some of the offensive items in my inventory. Oil Arrows, Dragon-Spit, Blast Arrows and spam special powers, snarf some stamina items, repeat.

Oh wait, that's what you meant by hoarding? I thought you meant should I keep stuff or sell/throw away. Not "should I use it?".

Sorry!

Infyrnos wrote:
strangederby wrote:

Also not had anyone hire my pawn at all. Maybe I've missed the sweet spot as lot's of players have already finished the game? or are looking for higher levels?

Think it really just has alot to do with very few people playing anymore. Most of the people on my friends list had already finished playing, or did not own it, so my pawn was never hired out either. Not sure how much of a difference that would have made though, the game felt pretty complete as was.

To be fair, even when I was playing, only Goodjers hired my pawn out and it was only the once. I mostly play offline as well and I imagine that a good number of people do too (even of those who remain playing).

I think the rift crystals kind of worked against the design of the game in that sense because there was no incentive to hire a pawn from someone who wasn't on your friend's list or below/equal to your level. Even then, the in-game pawn system provided you with everything you'd need...

Duoae wrote:

Oh wait, that's what you meant by hoarding? I thought you meant should I keep stuff or sell/throw away. Not "should I use it?".

Sorry!

No no. You were right earlier as well. My hoarding tendencies manifest in many ways. Left to my own devices I avoid using consumables. I harvest everything. I smash everything.
My regular arrows never run out... why would I use anything else?
Edit to add: But now that I know that local resources are essentially infinite... chests refill, crates respawn, monsters pop up again and again. You can never have ALL the pumpkins. Go ahead, eat one.

Edit: Regarding Pawns. Is it bad of me to favor hiring the pawns from people that don't have Dark Arisen? It always feels a little weird scouring my item list for a 'gift,' and the semi-forced comment card seems needlessly sociable. What's protocol? The one I feel least bad about is when I happened to have a bottle of wine.