I'm not going to tell anyone they're wrong for hating those movies. I happen to love them because they're unique. Because they're more visual art than traditional movie and traditional plot. I like the things he's trying to say and I enjoy the way he says it. Point being that I think this movie was where he lost even those of us who cut him a ton of slack.
Whaaat? Thin Red Line was fantastic.
Think that's bad. Try Tree of Life.
Hey, I liked that movie. Could not get into The Thin Red Line though, maybe I need to be in a similar head-space as I was when I saw Tree of Life.
Mentioned this in the questions you want answered thread and am moving it here thanks to Miashara answering my question about a general 2013 movie thread.
...I watched The Great Gatsby today and really enjoyed it. Did anyone here see it and hate it? It seems that critics were very divided about it. I haven't actually read the book, so that may have made a difference. I do love F. Scott Fitzgerald short stories, though. I still need to finish This Side of Paradise, and I guess The Great Gatsby is now on my list of things to read.
I just thought the acting was superb. Anything DiCaprio is involved in just ends up being pure gold to me these days. I have a ridiculous amount of respect for him which is funny seeing as I hated him during the Titanic days. The music was great. The sets were crazy awesome. It was worth watching just for the costume design. Holy crap. Whoever handled the costume design deserves a huge pat on the back. Damn.
Overall there were no specific jaw dropping scenes for me, but I'd put it in 4/5 star territory or so overall. I'm surprised so many critics hated it.
I saw Jack Reacher and I was pleasantly surprised that I really enjoyed it.
I liked Gatsby well enough, and don't see why the negative reaction was so strong in some instances. Some of the thematic beats from the book were glossed over, but it's nothing that ruins the plot. Maybe it's one of those things... y'know, writers love writing about writers. So maybe they hate people making films about writing about writers?
I'm just a little surprised that Gastby is over two hours long, I didn't think there was enough material for that.
Also, did you see it in 3D? It doesn't seem like the kind of movie where that would add much to the telling of the story. I mean, I'm sure it was nice for the extravagant party scenes and the like, but it doesn't seem necessary to me.
2D for me. The only spot where it felt like the 3D would be nice was the opening and closing screens. I'll definitely try 3D when the Blu-ray comes out.
ranalin wrote:DSGamer wrote:Well, Terrance Mallick finally made a movie that I not only don't love, but actively dislike. I generally give him a wide berth because I consider his movies to be like paintings. Beautiful pieces of art to be taken as what they are and nothing more. But "To the Wonder" isn't even that. Plus it's depressing and cynical even by his standards.
his work has always seemed masturbatory.
I will never forgive that guy for The Thin Red Line. It was a three hour Obsession perfume commercial that made no sense that was advertised as a war movie.
Man so agree! I just remember waiting and waiting and waiting and then the movie was over!
Sea of Monsters
I can't really forgive how they totally changed the plot and characters for the 1st movie. My kids and I enjoyed reading the books and after the movie we totally made an agreement to not go to the theater for any of the other movies! 
Also, did you see it in 3D? It doesn't seem like the kind of movie where that would add much to the telling of the story.
I didn't see it in 3D, but Wesley Morris said in his excellent review for Grantland that, "Luhrmann shows you how those plastic glasses can help heighten the emotional intensity of an argument."
Strewth wrote:Also, did you see it in 3D? It doesn't seem like the kind of movie where that would add much to the telling of the story.
I didn't see it in 3D, but Wesley Morris said in his excellent review for Grantland that, "Luhrmann shows you how those plastic glasses can help heighten the emotional intensity of an argument."
That argument was crazy in 2D. I wanted to crawl under my chair and hide.
Nevin73 wrote:ranalin wrote:DSGamer wrote:Well, Terrance Mallick finally made a movie that I not only don't love, but actively dislike. I generally give him a wide berth because I consider his movies to be like paintings. Beautiful pieces of art to be taken as what they are and nothing more. But "To the Wonder" isn't even that. Plus it's depressing and cynical even by his standards.
his work has always seemed masturbatory.
I will never forgive that guy for The Thin Red Line. It was a three hour Obsession perfume commercial that made no sense that was advertised as a war movie.
Man so agree! I just remember waiting and waiting and waiting and then the movie was over!
Sea of MonstersI can't really forgive how they totally changed the plot and characters for the 1st movie. My kids and I enjoyed reading the books and after the movie we totally made an agreement to not go to the theater for any of the other movies! :)
I also have to come down on the "Thin Red Line" kinda sucks category, but in all fairness I do have a bad habit of judging military movies based on their quotability. That's why Full Metal Jacket IMHO is one of the best war movies ever, followed by Stripes.
I saw Jack Reacher and I was pleasantly surprised that I really enjoyed it.
It was enjoyable, and made even better by calling him "Yah Creature" or "Jah Creature".
Frailty, on the other hand... *shudder*
karmajay wrote:Nevin73 wrote:ranalin wrote:DSGamer wrote:Well, Terrance Mallick finally made a movie that I not only don't love, but actively dislike. I generally give him a wide berth because I consider his movies to be like paintings. Beautiful pieces of art to be taken as what they are and nothing more. But "To the Wonder" isn't even that. Plus it's depressing and cynical even by his standards.
his work has always seemed masturbatory.
I will never forgive that guy for The Thin Red Line. It was a three hour Obsession perfume commercial that made no sense that was advertised as a war movie.
Man so agree! I just remember waiting and waiting and waiting and then the movie was over!
Sea of MonstersI can't really forgive how they totally changed the plot and characters for the 1st movie. My kids and I enjoyed reading the books and after the movie we totally made an agreement to not go to the theater for any of the other movies! :)
I also have to come down on the "Thin Red Line" kinda sucks category, but in all fairness I do have a bad habit of judging military movies based on their quotability. That's why Full Metal Jacket IMHO is one of the best war movies ever, followed by Stripes.
Absolutely true! or should i say that's a fact Jack!
People who dislike The Thin Red Line. Why am I not surprised I finally found those people on these forums.
I'm getting pretty pumped for Gravity, Cuaron's first film since Children of Men.
People who dislike The Thin Red Line. Why am I not surprised I finally found those people on these forums.
I'm getting pretty pumped for Gravity, Cuaron's first film since Children of Men.
I saw that trailer in the theater this last weekend. It looks amazing. The only thing I knew about it before was that Sandra Bullock and George Clooney were involved, so I wrote it off. When Cuaron's name came up during the trailer, I got super excited.
For those who haven't heard it, there's an episode of Radiolab which seems to hit on similar aspects of space. Go listen to it, now.
Quintin_Stone wrote:I saw Jack Reacher and I was pleasantly surprised that I really enjoyed it.
It was enjoyable, and made even better by calling him "Yah Creature" or "Jah Creature".
Just wait until the sequel: Round 2
Yes I stole that from another goodjer. I have no shame at all!
R.I.P.D
This looks pretty fun!
LouZiffer wrote:Quintin_Stone wrote:I saw Jack Reacher and I was pleasantly surprised that I really enjoyed it.
It was enjoyable, and made even better by calling him "Yah Creature" or "Jah Creature".
Just wait until the sequel: Round 2
Yes I stole that from another goodjer. I have no shame at all!
If you want that feeling to last, don't ever read the novels.
A: The stories are much better in print.
B: TC wasn't "man" enough for the role. Everyone should know their limitations.
Oblivion was pretty good though.
R.I.P.D
This looks pretty fun!
It does!
Anybody else excited? I don't know how many times I've rewatched Hot Fuzz.
Anybody else excited? I don't know how many times I've rewatched Hot Fuzz.
This one deserves it's own thread
Fantastic!
Yes, I am quite excited, and Yes, it deserves its own thread. It deserves every thread.
This one deserves it's own thread
Yes, I am quite excited, and Yes, it deserves its own thread. It deserves every thread.
Fine. Can't say I didn't expect this. 
I also have to come down on the "Thin Red Line" kinda sucks category, but in all fairness I do have a bad habit of judging military movies based on their quotability. That's why Full Metal Jacket IMHO is one of the best war movies ever, followed by Stripes.
Thin Red Line has one of the best quotes of all time, it doesn't roll off the tongue but the part where the Japanese voice over asks "Are you the righteous kind? Does your confidence lie in this? Are you loved at all? Know that I was too. Do you imagine your suffering will be less because you loved goodness and truth?"
Unlike so many American war films, it is a film that uses the battle Guadalcanal to explore the philosophy of war and by reducing the combat to a state of madness the film is able to attack the very logic of warfare, as there are no winners or losers but instead war is "a descent into a Hobbessian Labyrinth where the hellish conditions engulf everyone".
In short it is a film that isn't scared to challenge the notion of the 'Good War' (Second World War that is) and for that, it is one of the finest war films ever made. IMO
jdzappa wrote:I also have to come down on the "Thin Red Line" kinda sucks category, but in all fairness I do have a bad habit of judging military movies based on their quotability. That's why Full Metal Jacket IMHO is one of the best war movies ever, followed by Stripes.
Thin Red Line has one of the best quotes of all time, it doesn't roll off the tongue but the part where the Japanese voice over asks "Are you the righteous kind? Does your confidence lie in this? Are you loved at all? Know that I was too. Do you imagine your suffering will be less because you loved goodness and truth?"
Unlike so many American war films, it is a film that uses the battle Guadalcanal to explore the philosophy of war and by reducing the combat to a state of madness the film is able to attack the very logic of warfare, as there are no winners or losers but instead war is "a descent into a Hobbessian Labyrinth where the hellish conditions engulf everyone".
In short it is a film that isn't scared to challenge the notion of the 'Good War' (Second World War that is) and for that, it is one of the finest war films ever made. IMO
I won't call your opinion wrong. I must just be a more simple person than you are. I can't translate seeing images of a dude's wife on a swing into a good war film.
jdzappa wrote:I also have to come down on the "Thin Red Line" kinda sucks category, but in all fairness I do have a bad habit of judging military movies based on their quotability. That's why Full Metal Jacket IMHO is one of the best war movies ever, followed by Stripes.
Thin Red Line has one of the best quotes of all time, it doesn't roll off the tongue but the part where the Japanese voice over asks "Are you the righteous kind? Does your confidence lie in this? Are you loved at all? Know that I was too. Do you imagine your suffering will be less because you loved goodness and truth?"
Unlike so many American war films, it is a film that uses the battle Guadalcanal to explore the philosophy of war and by reducing the combat to a state of madness the film is able to attack the very logic of warfare, as there are no winners or losers but instead war is "a descent into a Hobbessian Labyrinth where the hellish conditions engulf everyone".
In short it is a film that isn't scared to challenge the notion of the 'Good War' (Second World War that is) and for that, it is one of the finest war films ever made. IMO
Agree. I also like the concept of the Earth still being beautiful in spite of man. The theme of the Earth surviving man. People can hate on his movies all the want and I won't fight them over it. But where they see nonsense I see what amounts to a painting as film. And that painting has a lot to say about how you can still find beauty in the middle of chaos and how the Earth will survive humans and our madness.
I won't call your opinion wrong. I must just be a more simple person than you are. I can't translate seeing images of a dude's wife on a swing into a good war film.
To be fair, I have a slight advantage in that I did my undergraduate dissertation on Post 1990s Second World War films and to what extent they sacrifice historical fact to represent the war as the 'Good War', so I was just recalling that. I most likely have passages about the importance of his wife in there too. Also it was better than some of the other films I had to sit through like Pearl Harbor and Windtalkers.
Nevin73 wrote:I won't call your opinion wrong. I must just be a more simple person than you are. I can't translate seeing images of a dude's wife on a swing into a good war film.
To be fair, I have a slight advantage in that I did my undergraduate dissertation on Post 1990s Second World War films and to what extent they sacrifice historical fact to represent the war as the 'Good War', so I was just recalling that. I most likely have passages about the importance of his wife in there too. Also it was better than some of the other films I had to sit through like Pearl Harbor and Windtalkers.
I would say that your dissertation topic might be a fair candidate for a thread on its own. There is much about WW2 that many Americans don't realize that could tarnish it's image as a "good war".
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