Fringe Catch-All - You Are My Favorite Thing, Fringe. My Very Favorite Thing.

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Charlotte!

4dSwissCheese wrote:

Yeah - that was a bit of a strange one. I liked the concept from the attack that opens the episode, and I could have done with a whole episode based off of that. Maybe they do something awesome in the finale with it, but making Jones a flunky and then dispensing with him so unceremoniously first of all felt awfully abrupt, and second of all retroactively diminishes a good portion of the second half of the season. On the other hand, the episode set in the future from a couple weeks back becomes much more relevant, since it's now quite likely that that episode took place in our universe. If they wanted to be drastic, I could even imagine them cutting between the present and future for a good portion of next season.

You may want to spoiler tag some of that before the spoiler police jump in and start having spastic attacks...

IMO, if you visit this thread, especially on broadcast night, without being current--you take your chances.

After the last couple of episodes, the big reveal was kinda anticlimactic; given that we had seen him encased in amber in Letters of Transit there was no reason to think he wouldn't show up.

Not sure why they went from "collapse two universes together" to "kill some people in a mall with nanites" and "control solar flares" or what those last two were supposed to accomplish.

And THEY SHOT ASTRID! THE BASTARDS!

They haven't given the motive for what is coming from Bell - next week should be spectacular.

Her name was Alex.

THPOILERTH!!!

tanstaafl wrote:

After the last couple of episodes, the big reveal was kinda anticlimactic; given that we had seen him encased in amber in Letters of Transit there was no reason to think he wouldn't show up.

I was still shocked. Everything I heard said Nimoy was retired and only doing voice work now. Sure he played a Spock action figure on Big Bang Theory earlier this year, but that fit with the voice work only thing. And the CGI in amber was a nice tease, but I figured that's all we were getting. Even at the reveal, I was worried it was just going to be a man in shadow or a man with his back turned giving out commands in Nimoy's voice. When he turned around I was genuinely surprised!

Spoiler:

Yeah - that was a bit of a strange one. I liked the concept from the attack that opens the episode, and I could have done with a whole episode based off of that. Maybe they do something awesome in the finale with it, but making Jones a flunky and then dispensing with him so unceremoniously first of all felt awfully abrupt, and second of all retroactively diminishes a good portion of the second half of the season. On the other hand, the episode set in the future from a couple weeks back becomes much more relevant, since it's now quite likely that that episode took place in our universe. If they wanted to be drastic, I could even imagine them cutting between the present and future for a good portion of next season.

Edit: Spoilered out of an abundance of caution. Sorry if I gave stuff away, but yeah, my instinct is also that if you're in the thread and hoping not to be spoiled after the episode has aired on the west coast, then you're taking your chances.

Well, Bell was somewhat obvious, but the end of that episode was... unexpected.

After the last couple of episodes, the big reveal was kinda anticlimactic; given that we had seen him encased in amber in Letters of Transit there was no reason to think he wouldn't show up.

I actually thought that was a nice foreshadowing, reminding people that he was still alive in the alternate timeline. Staying clear on the status of all these different characters in all these different versions of reality is fairly involved, and a little reminder was kind of nice.

D-Man777 wrote:

IMO, if you visit this thread, especially on broadcast night, without being current--you take your chances.

QFT I don't understand why the concept is so hard to grasp for some.

If it aired it's not a spoiler and speculation is fine, as long as it's based on what's already aired. Nobody should be afraid to talk about stuff people have already watched. Teasers, articles etc. That stuff is the crap we need to spoiler wrap.

I think some people just like to poke fun at others, and it's causing confusion and possibly frustration for everyone.

Now back to the episode!

I found this episode really weird. I don't know what I was expecting, but I certainly didn't expect what appeared to be another one off episode, only to find a third of the way in that it had something to do with the overarching plot of the season, to then find out it was actually part of what appears to be a whole new arch which is probably going to take us to the end of the series.

I am still looking forward to the next episode and I certainly hope they find a way to save Alex. Something tells me a miraculous cortexiphane cure is a strong possibility. They kind of foreshadowed the possibility pretty heavily with that lemon cake.

Indeed. Cake is the answer!

The very real possibility that an easy bake oven is being presented as a reasonable cure for a fatal gunshot wound is a big reason why I love the show so much.

Man, in retrospect, I wonder if they could have gotten any more blatant with the 'pay with your phone' product placement, early on? Yuck. What a f*cking waste of screen time.

I mean, the phone screen was center focus twice, for no good reason except to show Sprint.

Malor wrote:

Man, in retrospect, I wonder if they could have gotten any more blatant with the 'pay with your phone' product placement, early on? Yuck. What a f*cking waste of screen time.

I mean, the phone screen was center focus twice, for no good reason except to show Sprint.

Don't you already have a Nexus though? They weren't advertising to you.

You're right, but they still took up my screen time with that nonsense.

The product placements turn my stomach too. If any of you watch Bones, you know it can get much worse than what we've seen on Fringe.

But like Subway did for Chuck, I feel I have to give Sprint, Nissan, Ford Focus, etc. some leeway. Without them, it's a fair bet that we'd have never have made it to season four, let alone season five.

That's pretty funny.

A) I have no idea what phone they were pimping.
6) I had no idea that pay with your phone was a real feature in any phone yet. I thought it was going to play a part in the plot.

Luckily, advertisers can count on cantankerous viewers to drive home their message.

Mostly, I don't care. We do get amused by some of car placements in Bones (even though I can't tell you what car it is right now) and the gobs of Apple computers in some shows.

But those ads don't steal screen time, they produce screen time.

Jayhawker wrote:

A) I have no idea what phone they were pimping.

http://www.google.com/nexus

Sprint version in the show, obviously, as Sprint has long been a sponsor. But Verizon has it too, and Google sells one directly as well.

I had no idea that pay with your phone was a real feature in any phone yet. I thought it was going to play a part in the plot.

Right, which is exactly why it was graceless, clumsy, and absolutely should not have been done. A product placement blatant enough to interfere with the plot is appalling.

Malor wrote:
I had no idea that pay with your phone was a real feature in any phone yet. I thought it was going to play a part in the plot.

Right, which is exactly why it was graceless, clumsy, and absolutely should not have been done. A product placement blatant enough to interfere with the plot is appalling.

Honestly, I find excessive use of bold, italics and capitals, as well needless profanity to be more appalling.

I'm sure we're all thrilled to know that, Jayhawker. Just ecstatic.

Jayhawker wrote:
Malor wrote:
I had no idea that pay with your phone was a real feature in any phone yet. I thought it was going to play a part in the plot.

Right, which is exactly why it was graceless, clumsy, and absolutely should not have been done. A product placement blatant enough to interfere with the plot is appalling.

Honestly, I find excessive use of bold, italics and capitals, as well needless profanity to be more appalling.

Oh no he didn't!

Where the f*ck is the needless profanity? I didn't see any above dammit!

Malor wrote:

I'm sure we're all thrilled to know that, Jayhawker. Just ecstatic.

About as ecstatic as I was to find out what phone it was.

How is this any different than Peter using the GPS back in season two? It was used in the context of the show and that's all.

D-Man777 wrote:

But like Subway did for Chuck, I feel I have to give Sprint, Nissan, Ford Focus, etc. some leeway. Without them, it's a fair bet that we'd have never have made it to season four, let alone season five.

This. If I have to listen to ten seconds of, "Look how cool this product is!" in exchange for another season of Fringe, bring on the product placement.

How is this any different than Peter using the GPS back in season two? It was used in the context of the show and that's all.

Not in this case, because it was framed in a way of saying "this is important". And everyone here probably remembers that scene, that the guy pulled out his phone and used it to pay with, and that Walter gave it the eyeball like it was important.

They misused the plot to try to sell you a telephone. Product placement is one thing, but this was like the Advil schtick in Wayne's World. Except, not funny.

Malor wrote:
How is this any different than Peter using the GPS back in season two? It was used in the context of the show and that's all.

Not in this case, because it was framed in a way of saying "this is important". And everyone here probably remembers that scene, that the guy pulled out his phone and used it to pay with, and that Walter gave it the eyeball like it was important.

They misused the plot to try to sell you a telephone.

lol seriously? That service has been around forever.