Streamers with jobs

First off, which software are you using to stream?

Secondly, do yourself and your viewers and get a separate mic. Even a Yeti Snowball would be better than a webcam mic.

Veloxi wrote:

First off, which software are you using to stream?

Secondly, do yourself and your viewers and get a separate mic. Even a Yeti Snowball would be better than a webcam mic.

Thanks Veloxi! I use OBS.

Yeah, I am getting a mic for this no matter what, but I'd rather know before hand whether it will actually solve all-most of my current problems or merely disguise them.

Some context required, I live on a freaking 30th floor with 3 massive elevator rooms rigth above my head (thankfully one is out of order) they are going up and down all day and night and my building literally swings back and forth enough that you get a bit seasick. You can imagine how loud these bastards are while operating. I also live next to a very busy avenue and sometimes one of my neighbours yells out the window threatening to kill everyone and cursing us all to hell.

So, any mic I get will need to be able to prevent picking up this racket while I'm trying to make that sick joke or that insightfull observation on the nature of life. I've been reading about dynamic microphones in that regard and that could be one way to offset the amount of unavoidable noise I have to deal with.

This brings me to another question, does it make more sense to find a proper headphones with a good mic or to have a separated mic anyway?

Edit: whether, not "wheter"

Separated mics usually sound better.

To address the noise issues you mentioned, you'll want to look into those audio filters I mentioned in my previous post. These are added to your audio input source in OBS. Background canceling will get rid of any ambient background noise like fans and such. Noise gates will make it so the mic only picks up when the audio gets above a certain threshold. A compressor will make it so that if you get particularly loud, you won't blow out your mic.

You'll probably benefit further from a mic with manual gain control to further reduce the noise it picks up on. I'm not familiar with dynamic mics so can't comment there. I'm not sure if you'll be able to fully remove that noise from your stream based on what you said, but you can certainly make some improvements.

Welcome to the streaming life, Feeank.

- Microphone is by far the most important piece of equipment when starting out

- "Entry-level" microphone does not equal bad. (I've been using the Elgato Wave:1 for 2+ years and do not see a need to upgrade anytime soon)

- Webcam is a distant second but if you use one, being well-lit is very important, then finding a good place to put your head among the UI for whatever game you're playing

- Make sure to get a pop filter or sock for your mic

- As Beanman has mentioned, setting up audio filters makes a world of difference. Check Youtube for tips.

- A single-monitor set up can be supplemented with a tablet (or phone) running the Twitch app in Stream Manager mode

- Muting the mic before switching back to Twitch's live view mode is my quick n' dirty way to verify audio is good at the start of a stream

- Although a luxury item, a Stream Deck can also give you much more (and faster) access to OBS commands than you would have otherwise when restricted to a single-monitor set up.

- I also recommend creating a "Starting Soon" and "Be Right Back" screen. I don't recommend using the Starting Soon longer than 10 minutes at the start of your stream as a general rule of thumb.

- Use the heck out of OBS's local recording feature to test all aspects of your stream before going live

- Set up a secondary Twitch for live testing so you're not seen floundering around on your main account

- There's a wealth of YouTube how-to creators for live streaming... almost too many. If you're looking for recommendations or have a specific topic to go in-depth with, let me know and I can try to dig up some recommendations

Yeah, you'll spend more time tweaking audio than anything else. A headset mic might be good for you as it can be close to your mouth with the gain down so it hopefully doesn't pick up anything else.

Also do you have a hotkey set up in OBS to start and stop streaming? That way you don't have to leave the game window? Or you can use something like a StreamDeck, which is a wonderful thing.

Thanks a bunch Mac, Veloxi and Beanman, lots of tips I'm going to follow and study, I'm sure in no time I'll feel more comfortable and confident walking down this path.

Feeank wrote:

Thanks a bunch Mac, Veloxi and Beanman, lots of tips I'm going to follow and study, I'm sure in no time I'll feel more comfortable and confident walking down this path.

Yeah, it takes time and a lot of tweaking to get it all right and feel comfortable and practiced with it all. Just be kind to yourself along the way.

Veloxi wrote:

Yeah, it takes time and a lot of tweaking to get it all right and feel comfortable and practiced with it all. Just be kind to yourself along the way.

This.
We're just talking tools and nuts & bolts to live streaming. Depending on how much you plan on doing it and your overall goals, there's a mental side that comes into play and it can... diminish one's enjoyment.

Exactly. There are days I spent 4-6 hours tweaking my audio setup, and I felt spent after that. Totally worth it though. But yeah, everyone's configuration is different, and Windows audio is terrible, so take the time to get it right.

Thanks fellas! I'm taking the weekend off to tweak all details of my channel as much as possible and fill some blanks in my understanding of what exactly OBS is capable of doing, even thou I've used it a lot before for my pixelart videos I had no idea of the things you could do with it, once you sit down and actually do your basic research. I have still lots to learn but I feel on the right path already, at least visuals-wise.

So I have scenes for Brb and waiting to start as well, and I've run some audio tests that sound promising, tomorrow should be fun.

Watch content from Harris Heller too. His early content has lots of really good tips.

kazar wrote:

Watch content from Harris Heller too. His early content has lots of really good tips.

Oh god I forgot about that. Good one.

kazar wrote:

Watch content from Harris Heller too. His early content has lots of really good tips.

Thanks Kazar, already watching some material from him, lots of tips and insights not necesarily related with the technical side but with the approach towards streaming in general.

Edit:

Got myself a Maono dynamic microphone, should receive it in a couple of weeks, in the mean time I was able to stream last night with relatively not-as-terrible audio, which is cool.

Still getting the hang of the technical side, added an alert system thingie and next I should tackle a chat overlayer for the stream, looking forward to that.

Last week I got my new microphone and it's been amazing, made a couple of covers trying to learn my way around it, it works great so far, no background noise that I can perceive on those recordings.

I haven't streamed this week but hope to be back on monday. Graphic wise I think my channel is solid and consistent, no flashy or bombastic stuff in that regard, sober but fun I'd define it, but I wan't to go more indepth in the chat add-ons now, maybe program a bot to liven up the place while I'm busy playing /talking, but this is perhaps the most daunting aspect to this whole endeavour, I'm using "streamelements" but can't really grasp the meaning of most of the functions their chatbot uses. Guess I have to watch more streams to learn about those types of interactions but as usual any insight is appreciated here.

BTW, I received a gift-sub for Maclintok's channel, Thanks MAC!
I'll be checking up more streams this weekend as part of my *research*

Congrats on the new mic!!! It really makes a world of difference.

Nice and congrats on the new mic! I’m glad you got the gift sub, too. I’m lucky to have a serial sub gifter among my followers.

Stream Elements is absolutely a great way to start with chat commands and chat automation. Let us know what you want to add to chat and I can try to help.

I've just streamed for almost 3 hours without realizing I had no audio

Still, managed to make one of my pixelsotes sprites while live which was the point of the stream so I'll take the half-victory.

Hey streamer crew,

I may ditch the games and do another Just Chatting stream tonight. I used to be on top of this sort of thing but I don't do nearly as much idle web surfing during my work day like I used to as a younger, more care-free office drone. Where in the heck do I find collections of funny videos and memes to click through? Any good subreddits I should be bookmarking? I'd like to do this for part of the stream if I'm just going to be shooting the breeze with chat. TIA.

https://www.gamerswithjobs.com/node/... is probably a good place to start.

Maclintok wrote:

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Oh wow!

So I just had a bit of a freak out since I use Restream Chat to have all the various services be able to chat to each other, and this new Twitch nonsense said that might be a no-no. However, the Restream folks seem to think as long as I'm not embedding my chat in the visible stream -- which I don't -- I should be okay.

So whew, for now.

If Twitch gives me sh*t about it then f*ck 'em.

Yeah I read that and immediately thought they were forbidding a restream chat overlay that combines messages from both platforms. I used to do that before I got affiliated on twitch. That would be sucky but not end of the world.

I gave up on being a Twitch affiliate when I got a job. It's honestly not worth it, for me at least.

Hey all! I know this is terribly short notice. On the spur of the moment I decided to stream for Extra Life today! Already did a short stint this afternoon and I'm wrapping up with a 2-3 hour stream right now.

Would appreciate any form of support if ya'll are still awake and not up to much on a Saturday night.
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Thank you!

Any Restream.io users here?

Now that Twitch changed their policy I've been simulcasting on Twitch + Youtube for close to a month.
I remember there used to be an option to set up an Event in Restream. Didn't really do anything for Twitch but for Youtube it would create that handy "coming soon" or "premiere" video that acted like a waiting lobby for the next stream.

Well, the option is still there but the functionality has changed. Each new event you create requires you to input a specific stream key to OBS or some weird thing. All I ever do is sign into my streaming accounts in OBS...I've never needed to update the RMTP crap manually. I've opted to skip creating Restream events for now because it just seems cumbersome. Am I just missing something here?

Yeah, I use Restream.io events for all of my streams. I love having a unique key for each stream. It takes like three seconds to put it into OBS so it's no big deal.

I'm ambivalent. It's no big deal for me, but if something happens and I have to get a sub one Sunday then it's one more potential point of failure. Having the event means people can get reminders in FB or YT though, and that functionality is worth the aggravation. It also means the nursery folks can tune their TV to the YouTube feed before the service actually starts, because by that time they have kids to wrangle.

It also means that if something goes wrong with the stream and the event fires and fails, then that key is NFG* and I have to go back in and swap to the "go live now" key.

*acronym; stands for "No Good." Usually used for hardware, but felt right here.

Any recommendations for a good virtual camera solution to easily toggle between two USB web cameras being fed into Zoom?

I was using OBS's virtual camera but want to test out a non-OBS solution. I'm open to hardware or software. I just need something that allows for really easy and fast toggling between multiple camera inputs.

When I read your first sentence my brain said, OBS. If you have an Elgato facecam you can use their software to switch between the facecam and an iPhone camera.