Streamers with jobs

Chatty shows the people watching your stream (it's basically a java IRC client). Really useful for putting a chat overlay on your stream.

It also has a feature to show you channel information - including a nifty line graph of your # of viewers over time. I love it.

I could help you set it up sometime if you wanted.

Chatty looks like it could potentially fill the need I'm looking for. I shall try it out, thanks!

Glad to help.

I'm curious, since I don't stream/podcast or anything, what sort of audience do you guys get? How many viewers/downloads (if you feel comfortable sharing)? And what is your end goal target? It just seems like there are so many around, and making yourself stand out must be challenging.

Iridium884 wrote:

I'm curious, since I don't stream/podcast or anything, what sort of audience do you guys get? How many viewers/downloads (if you feel comfortable sharing)? And what is your end goal target? It just seems like there are so many around, and making yourself stand out must be challenging.

I mainly stream for speedrunning. I may get 1 or 2 people, and occasionally over 10. Its not about the viewership count though. It mainly about a community of people that all speedrun the same game and watch each other play to give each other tips and hang out. I don't think I would ever want more than 30 people ever watching me ever. Any more than that and it starts to get unruly.

Plus streaming on twitch gets me a recording of my runs and hosting all for free. So all around wins for me.

Iridium884 wrote:

I'm curious, since I don't stream/podcast or anything, what sort of audience do you guys get? How many viewers/downloads (if you feel comfortable sharing)? And what is your end goal target? It just seems like there are so many around, and making yourself stand out must be challenging.

I get anywhere from one to twenty peolpe, depending on what I'm streaming.

If I had the luxury of streaming in the middle of the day I think I'd get more viewers - but there's that whole "having a job" thing to contend with.

I mostly stream because I, personally, enjoy it - and I like to believe that my goofball friends and I are enjoyable when whatever we're playing/doing starts to come apart at the seams (which pretty much always happens).

I bought a Hauppauge HD PVR rocket and did an unboxing and quality test. While this is just video capture you can use the unit for streaming on Twitch and Ustream, but of course you'd need a computer connected. (The USP of the Rocket is that it's USB powered and can record to a memory stick as well as computer.)

I'm wondering if a high-speed USB stick would mean higher quality capture. If I used a laptop I could tinker with the capture settings. Next time I record I'll increase the volume on the microphone too.

hello. so i deicided to try twitch.tv. i wouldnt call myself a gamer, because i am a college student and have 6-hours-a-day job. but i would like to replace my awful job with something i would like to do. I am willing to make 10-20 usdhour. Is it possible? Also should i better try slow speed games or fast speed games? can i play several games? because i would like one relaxing survival game and other would be the game i already play-starcraft2( just for practice). does video gives bigger chances to get viewers? what speed of internet i should use? should i buy any additional componets to start streaming? so far i have pretty nice computer with great graphic card and two screens. Also( just for oppinion) does being a girl in this field is a benefit, or disadvantage? i would be more than thankful if i would get PM from people who do that so i could ask more questions! ty!!!

Just so everyone knows, I said posting in this thread is ok. I am actually curious if anyone has a sense of how many subscribers/views someone would need to actually earn a living doing things like game streaming. My sense is that it's pretty rare.

From what I saw and read a few terms of services for those sites, you normally need around 400-500 viewers per stream to have an advertisement deal with them, unless you have some sort of sponsor.

A sponsor like for a gaming site that sells key could give 2-5% back in sale referral.

I guess for a normal guy, it's hard to do. Can take some time as well, and you need to be interactive, speak to your audience, and might need some sort of gimmick to lure some to you. As well, you need to like games that are popular, like a moba or dots type of game.

With those informations so far, I don't see myself go make a living on that alone, I might not have the time and patience for such a living, but do admire those who can do it.

According to a post I read on reddit, there are 5000 partnered streamers but only a handful of them make enough for a career:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Twitch/comme...

http://www.reddit.com/r/Twitch/comme...

Here is a good article I read about how Cosmo makes a living off twitch:

http://www.polygon.com/features/2014...

So from what I can tell, the gold rush for twitch has already ended. If you haven't hit it big already, then you probably never will. I think you need to have a gimmick or something that makes you stand out at this point. Being a female is a start, but you'll need definitely need more than just that.

so basically its more about personality and ability to attract people not about skills of gaming? Should i choose dota 2 or LoL for begin?:) i would start practice ^^ does APM is really important on those hames? i never hit 200 on sc :/ T.Y.

I'm looking for a bit of software to do a similar thing (overlay), but as a viewer. I moderate in a few channels that I regularly visit, and sometimes also take part in playing the game that is being streamed. This makes it difficult to keep on top of the chat, if the need arises, without either having a tablet or phone open which is awkward, or not running the game full-screen.

Anybody know of a way to overlay either chatty, or the Twitch pop-out chat on top of whatever I'm running full-screen? I don't do any of the streaming, so OBS etc won't fit the bill.

omni wrote:

I'm looking for a bit of software to do a similar thing (overlay), but as a viewer. I moderate in a few channels that I regularly visit, and sometimes also take part in playing the game that is being streamed. This makes it difficult to keep on top of the chat, if the need arises, without either having a tablet or phone open which is awkward, or not running the game full-screen.

Anybody know of a way to overlay either chatty, or the Twitch pop-out chat on top of whatever I'm running full-screen? I don't do any of the streaming, so OBS etc won't fit the bill.

The closest I ever saw to this - putting a chat overlay on top of the game you're playing - was an option in Overwolf (http://www.overwolf.com/).

Basically - Overwolf has an IRC app that can overlay on your games. I only fiddled with it once, because I found it difficult to give it the twitch API, and have it keep said API, instead of having to re-authorize it every time I wanted to fire up the software.

If you can get that to work, however, it might be what you're looking for.

I did start down that route, actually, and already installed Overwolf, but it was with their Twitch Apps in mind, which turns out to just be apps for streaming, or for watching another stream overlaid on your screen, but this does not support chat. I don't need to interact with it, just be able to read it so that if something wacky is going on, I can Alt+Tab out and deal with it swiftly. I didn't think to just use the IRC client, I'll do some research on that, and maybe have a chance to try it tonight.

Thanks for the pointer.

omni wrote:

I did start down that route, actually, and already installed Overwolf, but it was with their Twitch Apps in mind, which turns out to just be apps for streaming, or for watching another stream overlaid on your screen, but this does not support chat. I don't need to interact with it, just be able to read it so that if something wacky is going on, I can Alt+Tab out and deal with it swiftly. I didn't think to just use the IRC client, I'll do some research on that, and maybe have a chance to try it tonight.

Thanks for the pointer.

I lurk lots, but I'm glad to help out when I can.

So... I've been having a weird issue with the HD PVR Rocket - a constant buzz when a microphone is plugged in (I'm using the ones Hauppauge sent me). I spent a lot of time testing after exchanging emails with Hauppauge's support here in the UK. Nothing worked.

I'm not sure if I've got a faulty unit, or some kind of buzz is to be expected with these machines but I don't think it's good enough to record commentary with as it is. Separately I even put some captured footage through software that cleans audio, but it couldn't clean it enough.

Weirdly I don't think I had the problem when I first started using it. So something's gone wrong, but what?

Anyone have any ideas? I've tried a different HDMI port on the TV, I tried each USB port on the 360 (the Rocket is USB Powered), recording without headphones in the TV, multiple volume levels (buzz is ever present, just quieter).

The newest addition to my personal "bag of tricks" for my stream is a little tool I picked up in a mad scramble the morning of Extra Life.

Snaz.

Snaz is a useful little utility for making text files that OBS and XSplit can use to "remotely update" information. Put a clock on your stream. Or a countdown timer. Or a stopwatch.

Rotating messages? Does that too. Could even use it to display system stats, number of current viewers and more.

Pretty handy little application to have.

So, I clicked the "Start Casting" button this last week. So far it has just been Arma 3, and me talking to myself, but I'm hoping to keep up my personal interest in this and improve.

Currently, I'm stuck with a 1680x1050 monitor. So, I'm just going to bear with the bars on the side of my broadcast and keep it in native res. Overlay stuff will probably be my next venture. Especially playing Arma MP games, it would be nice to curb stream sniping...that is, if anyone actually was watching.

I'm live some evenings during the week after 2000 PDT, and whenever I can during the weekend. Doing this around school, parenting, and general home maintenance will be interesting.

http://www.twitch.tv/druidpeak

I streamer I watch pretty regularly, lobosjr, just recently quit his job as a BioWare QA specialist (he worked on SWTOR) to do full time streaming. He actually said that streaming was earning him more than enough to live comfortably.

I have recently been streaming my Dark Souls playing, which is usually not amazing, which makes it more entertaining, I think.

I want to do more because I think it will help me work through my pile.

You can catch me at http://www.twitch.tv/nsmichael

I'll make sure to add you. Somehow I never manage to catch many goodjers streaming - except for trainwreck, whom I've watched a few times.

This week I've been streaming a ton of Evolve, and picked up a couple new subs for my efforts. Of course, with a maximum of 8 or 9 viewers, I'm a VERY small fish in a very large ocean - but I have so much fun streaming that it hardly matters.

I mostly gave up streaming because my upstream bandwidth is bad and can't handle anything but stuff with lots of static screens that I don't actually want to stream very much

If I ever get reasonable upload speeds I totally plan to pick it back up.

Thin_J wrote:

I mostly gave up streaming because my upstream bandwidth is bad and can't handle anything but stuff with lots of static screens that I don't actually want to stream very much

If I ever get reasonable upload speeds I totally plan to pick it back up.

That stinks. Here's hoping it picks up for you. :/

Oh hello there, I am so glad I found this thread! I'm totally gonna be going through and checking out your streams!

Mine, if I may pimp, is at http://www.twitch.tv/spacegamejunkie. I stream fairly often, at least weekly for our podcast and weekly X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter bouts, along with some randomness here and there. If you should visit, I thank you for watching!

ok... I'll give the streaming thing a try. So far either I am bad at it or I haven't been playing long enough to get anyone to follow me.

http://www.twitch.tv/manta173

I'm going to do some Dragon Age Inq this evening starting as soon as I can get things going.

Well crap... I can't get it to stream at all. Black screen... Sound only after opening it through steam through origins.

EDIT: Fixed the stupid issue.

Considering taking some community college courses on digital video editing to get into the whole YouTube side of things.

Probably a case of overkill - but at the same time, I tried my hand at editing a local .mp4 the other day only to find that the editing software I was going to use has a sound lag issue with my footage. It isn't there at the begining of the footage, and it isn't there in a player like Windows Media Player - but it shows in the editor.

I read something about not having the right number of frames per second causing that sort of thing, but have no idea how/where to change that in the software - and I loathe feeling stupid and jumping into anything half-assed.

So instead, I'm considering going completely the opposite direction and "getting serious" with this as a hobby (and daydreaming about making said hobby pay for itself one day) by taking editing classes. Go figure.

What editing software are you using?

I've gotten some practice by editing large GiantBomb videos into highlight reels using Adobe Premiere and I've found it to be pretty easy to learn.

Audio will drift out of sync if the frame rate in your editing software is set to a rate other than what the original footage was captured at. Yes, I realize that's just reiterating what you already know but can't say much more without knowing what software you are using and also where the source footage came from and what its native frame rate is.
I do this stuff for a living, so I'm happy to try and help you figure this out.

As far as classes go, it depends on what you are looking to get out of it. If you want to understand the mechanics of your particular editing software, you might do better to look for specific tutorials online rather than taking a longer class that focuses on a different software from what you plan to use.

There are two parts to editing. There's the technical side, which is the mechanics of getting footage in and out of the software, putting the pieces on the timeline, adding titles etc. Then there's the artistic side. It's not just about knowing how to put pieces of footage together but which pieces to use and when. If you're trying to tell a story, there's a lot you can do in editing that will affect the viewer's response. It's a really interesting part of the process once you start digging into it.

Thanks for the offers of help, Delerat and Button Masher.

I'm giving Lightworks a go, because while I know that Adobe Permier is the go-to, I don't (at present) have $80 to spend on it, and Lightworks has a free option. I basically pointed Lightworks at my external drive, and let it auto-detect everything with magic and science.

If my frame rate is off, I blame the science/magic. I've tried poking around in XSplit to see what my frame-rate is (I swear I used to see an option for that, but of course I couldn't find it when I wanted it), but. . . I saw nothing. So - it doesn't help that I'm going into this a bit blind.

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My goal for taking classes is multi-fold. I don't know that I'd be looking to tell a good story, usually (machinima isn't the goal), but the bit about having an educated eye for what's "good" footage and what's "bad" footage would be nice. Part of me is also just looking for a reason to (finally) take some college classes (blah blah blah, never too old to learn/get a degree). I'm sure that anything I'd learn would ultimately be more focused on "traditional" editing (films involve people instead of my chosen output of video game footage) - but I figure it's unlikely to be much "wasted" knowledge in either case.

(That all said - I do have the secret dream/goal of being at least semi-professional in my twitch/youtube stuff. Up to and including getting a full two-rig setup, one for gaming, the other for capturing all the "stuff" so that I can composite it together in post before sending it off to youtube. I doubt it's terribly likely - but this is the sort of thing that I'd rather "overdo" than "underdo". It's a creative endeavor, and I have a weird perfectionist streak in my creative persuits - which is probably why I don't persue many of them...)