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I'm thinking of getting myself into streaming (gameplay + mic audio for now; possibly adding video later). I know OBS is often touted as the software to use, but what are the advantages of using OBS over the simplicity of the Geforce Experience native capabilities?

OBS is wonderful, but if you're unsure if say stick with GeForce until you get more confident.

Thanks Veloxi. I streamed Assassin's Creed: Odyssey DLC for almost 2.5 hours today using Geforce - looks like it worked fine, no hitches, and the recording on Twitch seems good. I did a quick mic check a bit after the 6m30s mark, and I think I need to increase my mic gain a lot; I bumped that setting in Geforce from 0% to 30%, and will test it again the next time I stream.

I also updated the OBS that I had installed from a few years ago, and poked around in the settings. It's definitely way more controllable/configurable than the simple Geforce approach, but I don't think I really need that level of complexity (yet?).

merphle wrote:

I'm thinking of getting myself into streaming (gameplay + mic audio for now; possibly adding video later). I know OBS is often touted as the software to use, but what are the advantages of using OBS over the simplicity of the Geforce Experience native capabilities?

OBS has a lot of audio features that is worth looking at too. Mic quality is very important for any content that you do. Even the best headset mic is just average and you will want to have a gate, noise reduction, compressors and such added. If you can get a decent microphone, it will improve things dramatically.

For advice on all this, I have relied on Harris Heller. He has a channel called the Alpha Gaming Channel. You may need to dig a bit but he has a few good videos on audio. If you ever want to get into video he has a lot on that too.

Yeah, I bought one of these mics, but it's still giving me volume trouble, as not-heard here (I can only baaaarely be heard). Even just using the Windows Voice Recorder app, or the Discord mic-test "echo", the recorded audio seems way quieter than it ought to be.

I took the pop screen off and it seems to be picking up sound a bit better, but something still seems wrong. Maybe I just need to get way closer to the mic and/or talk way louder? :/

Sounds like either you need phantom power or you plugged it into the line in and not the mic on your sound card. But then I see it is USB. OBS does have a gain filter that will increase it's volume for you.

Personnally, I typically decrease the game's volume in OBS. Really helps. Consider decreasing the game's volume before increasing your voice's volume. No one likes logging into a channel and having a voice blaring in your ears (especially folks with sensory issues).

That is a good point Eleima. I remember seeing a video where someone recommended looking at OBS's dB meter and make sure the game is a good 25% lower then your voice. Here is an image showing an example of this.

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Yeah, I decreased the game volume last night, after that DS2 stream. I don't think that's the solution though. I tried a few local-recording tests from OBS and sitting at what I would consider to be a comfortable distance from the mic, talking at a normal (for me) volume, with nothing else playing - the playback of my voice was still difficult to hear. I had to either a) speak at an uncomfortable volume, or b) get like an inch away from the mic before the recording was even approaching what I think would be acceptable. And even then, it's still quieter than virtually every other YT or Twitch stream.

Is it possible that the mic is actually not functioning correctly (and if so, how would I [dis]prove it)? Or maybe this is more of a soft skill I need to learn (voice projection).

Edit: And sorry for hogging this thread with questions. :/

No worries, that's what folks are here for. I use VoiceMeeter Banana my own self to lower the game volume, tweak gain, gate and so on, but Windows can still be so finiky even on its own.

https://www.vb-audio.com/Voicemeeter...

If you'd like help trying it out I'd be happy to show you.

I'm terrible at self-promoting.

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Merphle, if you're still having issues, I've walked a lot of folks through mic troubleshooting since I've started organizing shows. I'd be happy to go through some stuff on discord sometime, might require webcam or camera to show pictures of hardware or screen sharing for toggling windows settings/software.

Thanks Veloxi and Amoebic. I may take you up on the offer(s). It just feels like there's no gain on the mic, and Windows isn't giving me any option to increase it. It might just be an extremely narrow mic (or has a TON of native background noise filtering which causes it to dampen my voice unless I get all up in its business).

I've started streaming my miniature painting journey on Twitch, and I'm amazed by how popular it has been compared to my gaming streams. Lots of new faces, lots of support, and I'm genuinely having more fun streaming than ever before.

Getting my camera to focus has been challenging. I've tried a few things, but ultimately it came down to distance and lighting. What I'm using is comparable to the Logitech C920 (Microsoft Lifecam Studio) so I was starting to get very frustrated that I couldn't mimic the clarity of the other streamers I've watched.

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And the best one so far...

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I won't link the attempts where I tried attaching it to my shirt. It was not pretty!

But yeah, just wanted to post back here to say I'm having a blast. Tightened up my stream overlays with some paid stuff + a bit of fiddling on my own, approaching Twitch from a different angle, and mostly keeping my face out of the shot. Keeping the camera on the model and not me has made me feel a lot more comfortable, so I think it's a good way to learn the ins and outs of streaming while not freaking out when a larger swarm of people start watching!

Is this a good thread to ask for advice on choosing tools for streaming?

Really, I'm just trying to figure out how to play one of the Jackbox games live but remotely with some friends and family, and best I can tell I need to broadcast the game screen and have everyone log in remotely with their devices. So I think I'm looking for a private or restricted stream.

I'd be looking to run if off my PS4, which seems to connect to both Twitch and YouTube.

What's the best way to do this? Am I correct in all my assumptions?

If you're playing on the PS4, then just broadcasting directly from your console to Twitch is the easiest way to go. No worries about other software or PC settings, just push the Share button and you're good to go!

Thanks, but how do I share that stream? Sorry, I'm totally ignorant of this side of technology. Do I send a link, or an invite? Also, is there a way on Twitch to make a stream invite-only?

I poked around the settings on Twitch, but I couldn't find anything that was obviously what I wanted to accomplish.

Oh, so the link would just be whatever your channel name is. So like

twitch.tv/(your username)

There isn't a way (as far as I know) to make a stream private. You're essentially just one public access TV network that has millions upon millions of channels

Feegle wrote:

Thanks, but how do I share that stream? Sorry, I'm totally ignorant of this side of technology. Do I send a link, or an invite? Also, is there a way on Twitch to make a stream invite-only?

I poked around the settings on Twitch, but I couldn't find anything that was obviously what I wanted to accomplish.

If you wanna do this privately, setting up a Discord server and sharing your screen is the best way. Otherwise Twitch is damned public.

On a PS4 you should need a capture device to a PC to do that. Twitch would probably be the easiest, and while it isn't private as mentioned you are just one person in a sea of millions. If you want to keep it relatively hidden, choose the name of the game you see streaming to something really obscure and nobody will find it.