Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag

Yep.
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BlackSabre wrote:

So it sounds like they'll be using a lot more of the naval battles. Could be interesting since they were quite good in AC3. But still, I'm hesitant. I got burned by AC3. I want to love the series again, but they'll need to show something special, otherwise I'm out till it's in the $10 bargain bin.

I'm quoting this here much more concise version of the rant I was crafting when I saw this topic, as it expresses my thoughts just as well.

Something special, like an AC game set in the early 80's hardcore scene, with the hair metal bands as the Templars.

maverickz wrote:

The game is generally about how one man can make a difference to make the world more free. Which implies this man was acting during times of great change and upheaval. So it's odd that they picked a time that doesn't really have that. I mean, thematically, it ought to take place during wars, coups, and other events of this nature. I'no history buff, so what happened in the late 1600s and early 1700s in the Caribbean that was a great upheaval?

That time period was the Colonial Era in the Caribbean. Many of the conflicts on the European mainland like Queen Anne's War, the French-Indian War, and even the American War of Independence spilled over into large-scale naval conflicts in the Caribbean. State-sponsored piracy was rampant, forces from the great European naval powers were ruthlessly trying to control as much of the New World as they could, the local population was being enslaved, and a huge number of African slaves were being brought into the area. There were numerous slave rebellions, and generally the area was pretty war-torn. It's less that there was any singular "great upheaval" in that area (although the impact of the French Revolution and the Napoleonic Wars was certainly felt) as that the entire area was in constant upheaval throughout.

SpacePPoliceman wrote:

Something special, like an AC game set in the early 80's hardcore scene, with the hair metal bands as the Templars.

While that sounds silly, it would be better if it was British Punk vs. New Wave of British Heavy Metal.

ccesarano wrote:
SpacePPoliceman wrote:

Something special, like an AC game set in the early 80's hardcore scene, with the hair metal bands as the Templars.

While that sounds silly, it would be better if it was British Punk vs. New Wave of British Heavy Metal.

In no way would that be better! Hardcore of the 80's offers the dynamic figures and diverse locations an AC game demands. Being dispatched by Jello Biafra to stab RATT on stage? Awesome. Though it could be good for the annualized AC: London Burning. Yes, Burning--London Calling is a cliche choice beaten so deep into the earth it's been sending postcards from Melbourne.

RATT is hardcore?

Christ no, that's why they're getting stabbed--they're Hair Metal Templars. Did you not get my design doc?

I looks great.Assassins creed series always rocks.

Man,

I could barely get excited about AC3... so AC4 sounds like a pass for me.

Instead of (or in addition to) running around a city, the open world is the sea and you explore it via boat. I can't believe they hooked me again.

I'm starting to think AC3 didn't have naval stuff until they saw how well it was coming along for this team and they shoehorned it on. Clearly the boat is the most favorably received part of 3, but 3 months is not long enough to gauge fan reaction and plan a whole, showable (Kotaku saw the game) game around it.

Here's hoping it gets next-gen versions. 360 version of 3 was trying to do too much and was ugly as a result.

Blind_Evil wrote:

Instead of (or in addition to) running around a city, the open world is the sea and you explore it via boat. I can't believe they hooked me again.

Assassin's Creed IV: Wind Waker?

Hopefully!!

See, what I really liked about the first two (four?) AC games was climbing all over a city. Part of what hasn't gotten me fired up about 3 is that colonial America doesn't really have cities that are interesting to climb all over. Wilderness climbing is kinda meh.

Guys, when you could do the city-climbing thing in an interesting way in, say, France, Russia, or China, you decided to go with...pirates.

I'm sure it'll be a cool game, but I want climbing and stealth stabbing from my Assassin's Creed games. Naval battles with pirates can be in a different game.

Chaz wrote:

Naval battles with pirates can be in a different game.

Yeah, Pirates!
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So...with the ending of AC3 where

Spoiler:

Desmond sacrifices himself to release Juno and shield humanity from the solar flare

how the heck do we have another character to play?

I always thought things were a little loose on how we got from Ezio to Connor. In the course of 200 years (10 to 15 generations, give or take), the line travels from Italy to England, and gets mixed up with some Templar blood that then crosses over to the new world. AC3 did a good job showing the Europe to New World connection, but was still undefined on how we get from Ezio to Haytham.

Things are starting to get official:

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http://www.polygon.com/2013/2/28/403...

New box art for Ubisoft's next installment in the Assassin's Creed series, Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag, was released by the publisher this morning.
McIrishJihad wrote:

So...with the ending of AC3 where

Spoiler:

Desmond sacrifices himself to release Juno and shield humanity from the solar flare

how the heck do we have another character to play?

I always thought things were a little loose on how we got from Ezio to Connor. In the course of 200 years (10 to 15 generations, give or take), the line travels from Italy to England, and gets mixed up with some Templar blood that then crosses over to the new world. AC3 did a good job showing the Europe to New World connection, but was still undefined on how we get from Ezio to Haytham.

The info that's leaked so far is saying that we will be playing as Haytham's father (Connor's grandfather) who was an Assassin and privateer.

Isn't it speculated in the database that Haytham was an Assassin who went traitor?

As for who we are playing through--it wouldn't shock me at all if they just ignored that whole part of the story. It's pretty clear no one still working on AC likes it or even understood it. And that pisses me off.

SpacePPoliceman wrote:

Isn't it speculated in the database that Haytham was an Assassin who went traitor?

As for who we are playing through--it wouldn't shock me at all if they just ignored that whole part of the story. It's pretty clear no one still working on AC likes it or even understood it. And that pisses me off.

I think the database straight up states that his father was an Assassin, and raised Haytham to be one, who then switches sides. So, yes.

And I think it's a bit hyperbolic to say that no one working on the AC titles likes them, I think they lack the leadership vision to tie all the bits together into a coherent whole.

Sorry, the "It" I feel they dislike is not the game, it's the modern part of the story--it got pretty vestigial in Revelations and 3.

Chaz! wrote:

Naval battles with pirates can be in a different game.

But nobody ever does that game! Not with engaging realtime mechanics anyway. The simple fact that you're in a boat isn't what I loved about that part of AC3, it was the agency. The only other game I know that approximated sailing was Two Worlds 2.

nel e nel wrote:

Things are starting to get official:

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http://www.polygon.com/2013/2/28/403...

New box art for Ubisoft's next installment in the Assassin's Creed series, Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag, was released by the publisher this morning.

I'm with stupid. BANG BANG

First one I'm truly interested in playing since AC2.

Well one thing I notice is he's wearing armour. Wonder if they'll bring that back in. As opposed to wearing costumes in AC3. Something I think AC2 did really well was dishing out the upgrades in a good pace and giving you different things to add to your Assassin as you progressed.

maverickz wrote:

I'm with stupid. BANG BANG

Dude, count them: BANG BANG BANG BANG.

nel e nel wrote:
maverickz wrote:

I'm with stupid. BANG BANG

Dude, count them: BANG BANG BANG BANG. ;)

and that's just the ones you can see.

First assassin with light hair!

nel e nel wrote:
maverickz wrote:

I'm with stupid. BANG BANG

Dude, count them: BANG BANG BANG BANG. ;)

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LobsterMobster wrote:

First assassin with light hair!

I'm outraged... yet, at the same time, intrigued.