Playstation 4 Games Catch-All

Amazon has opened pre-orders for the PS Classic, and I almost placed one. But I baulked because the full line-up of 20 games has yet to revealed, and because I realised how horrid 1st generation 3D games were likely to look now (particularly, blown up to 720p and beyond) and play.

I think these nostalgia-driven mini-consoles are appropriate for 8-bit sprite games, but there are step too far 32-bit 3D games. Do I want to play Gran Turismo 2 again... now? No, I'll keep the memories.

With 3D games, I think one generation back is about as far as I can go.

I totally would have done the same thing in Sony’s shoes, but the boldface derivation literally made me snort when I read the headline on Kotaku.

Not for me, nope and I loved the PS1 at the time, it was the machine in our student house. I'm sure this will be jam packed with favourites from that era. However I don't think all that nostalgia is going to be nearly enough to make me play the majority of those games again. They will not have aged well at all.

Never had a PS1 (PS4 was my first playstation. I know! I know! The shame!!) I have no nostalgia for that era. Even if I did I don't think I'd enjoy going back that far in terms of graphics.

detroit20 wrote:

Amazon has opened pre-orders for the PS Classic, and I almost placed one. But I baulked because the full line-up of 20 games has yet to revealed, and because I realised how horrid 1st generation 3D games were likely to look now (particularly, blown up to 720p and beyond) and play.

I think these nostalgia-driven mini-consoles are appropriate for 8-bit sprite games, but there are step too far 32-bit 3D games. Do I want to play Gran Turismo 2 again... now? No, I'll keep the memories.

With 3D games, I think one generation back is about as far as I can go.

Agreed, I still own FFVII and played some of it last year on my PS2. It's a great game, but is almost impenetrably ugly now.

I'm tempted, PS1 was my first console I really got into gaming with. If I do get it, I would hook it up to a smaller 19 inch monitor instead of my big screen and set up a mini arcade of sorts. Older games look much more pleasing on smaller screens.

Agree with Detroit. Early 3D games just don't hold up like NES/SNES games do. They were cool back then but i've tried going back and playing a few previously and it did not end well.

Like I said in the PS Mini thread, I just don't understand the draw of these "classic" re-released systems. $50-100 or more for a static set of maybe 5-25 games. 5-10 minutes on your computer and you can set up an emulator with tens of thousands of classic games for nearly every system dating back to Pong.

vypre wrote:

Like I said in the PS Mini thread, I just don't understand the draw of these "classic" re-released systems. $50-100 or more for a static set of maybe 5-25 games. 5-10 minutes on your computer and you can set up an emulator with tens of thousands of classic games for nearly every system dating back to Pong.

As I said I don't understand for this one. However, it is a lot more than 10 minutes if you want to setup an emulator, easily have it hooked to your tv in living room so you and a few friends can relive/play games together. They also have controllers like the old ones. It is easily moveable etc. Now I have a Retro Pie for this. However, my retro pie took a while to setup, need to know what you are doing and cost me ~50 before controllers. I certainly understand the want for these even though I already have things to replace them.

escher77 wrote:

...it is a lot more than 10 minutes if you want to setup an emulator, easily have it hooked to your tv in living room so you and a few friends can relive/play games together. They also have controllers like the old ones. It is easily moveable etc. Now I have a Retro Pie for this. However, my retro pie took a while to setup, need to know what you are doing and cost me ~50 before controllers.

It's fair to say setup time is situation dependent. I can set up an emulator on my iPhone in less than 90 seconds. I can do everything you said there on my laptop in less than 10 minutes. For a Raspberry Pi, yeah - you may have to put parts together, install an OS, configure your network and devices, and so on and so forth, but at that point, you're getting into the realm of hobbyist customization. For the average joe that is looking to buy any these boxes to play a few old games, the process is really not that hard on an existing laptop or desktop and it's even easier and more accessible to do so on a smartphone.

Piracy aspect aside, I just can't see your average Joe bothering with finding ROMs and getting the compatibility to work.

The snes classic took 2 minutes to setup came with controllers that were very nostalgic, has a great front end that's easy to use, and has a great library out of the box. Like I said in the other thread my family uses this as well. I may sit down and play an emulator on pc but my wife and daughter never have or will. Having the classic just sitting by our TV that takes no setup or knowledge to get going is amazing. I adore the classic I do think these systems have a place in the market place for sure!

vypre wrote:
escher77 wrote:

...it is a lot more than 10 minutes if you want to setup an emulator, easily have it hooked to your tv in living room so you and a few friends can relive/play games together. They also have controllers like the old ones. It is easily moveable etc. Now I have a Retro Pie for this. However, my retro pie took a while to setup, need to know what you are doing and cost me ~50 before controllers.

It's fair to say setup time is situation dependent. I can set up an emulator on my iPhone in less than 90 seconds. I can do everything you said there on my laptop in less than 10 minutes. For a Raspberry Pi, yeah - you may have to put parts together, install an OS, configure your network and devices, and so on and so forth, but at that point, you're getting into the realm of hobbyist customization. For the average joe that is looking to buy any these boxes to play a few old games, the process is really not that hard on an existing laptop or desktop and it's even easier and more accessible to do so on a smartphone.

You are viewing it from someone that is setup for it or knows about tech 1. Most of my friends have no idea where/how to get a Rom emulator is. They can browse on a laptop or make a document but after that they are pretty lost 2. Most of my friends have a wireless Xbox/PS4 controller. Neither are plug and play in a laptop. You either A. need wireless adapter for xbox and PS4 even if you wire it has issues without installing other drivers etc. Again i'm not saying it's not possible to do all this stuff but my prison guard/teacher friends would much rather pay 50-100 and get the system ready to go in a box plug in and go.

I have a great deal of nostalgia for the PS1, but I've tried some of those games in recent years. That era of gaming simply does not hold up today except for very rare exceptions. I will feel the same about Nintendo's inevitable N64 classic.

Dyni wrote:

I have a great deal of nostalgia for the PS1, but I've tried some of those games in recent years. That era of gaming simply does not hold up today except for very rare exceptions. I will feel the same about Nintendo's inevitable N64 classic.

Agreed 100% I often go back to old ps1 rpgs and they barely hold up even with nostalgia. This generation does not have the timeless feel like pixel art does, it hasn't stood the test of time very well in my opinion. Feels like going to atari it was an art form in its infancy and was greatly improved and refined in the following gen.

MaxShrek created a thread for the PS mini: https://www.gamerswithjobs.com/node/...

Well, Sony finally backed down. Cross (platform) play incoming in 3... 2... 1...

https://www.engadget.com/2018/09/26/...

Item of note, this is currently being enabled as a beta test for Fortnite only, but will be opened to other games in the future once a complete solution is determined.

vypre wrote:

Well, Sony finally backed down. Cross (platform) play incoming in 3... 2... 1...

https://www.engadget.com/2018/09/26/...

Item of note, this is currently being enabled as a beta test for Fortnite only, but will be opened to other games in the future once a complete solution is determined.

Yeah, but can you use your Epic/PS-account on your Switch? That is not clear to me.

On a whole other note:

Is there anywhere you can see player statistics for the PS4. Eg. how many Fortnite-players a month?

It's possible to see Steam-statistics, but I don't know where to find statistics for consoles. Are they really hiding them and why?

Partydiktator wrote:

Yeah, but can you use your Epic/PS-account on your Switch? That is not clear to me.

Not yet, but soon. I don't remember where exactly, but I read yesterday that Fortnite will be doing account merges across all platforms next month. Apparently, that includes mobile, which is now enabled for cross-platform play with consoles and pc now as well.

A little late to the party on this one - especially considering the catch-all thread hasn't seen activity since 2016 - but, I finally got around to installing 'Ratchet & Clank' that was offered as a PS Plus freebie probably close to... a year ago?

I never played any of its predecessors... As a cartoony, platform-ish, 3rd person action/shooter that packs plenty of silly humor, never takes itself too seriously, and is equally easy to pick up in short bursts or long sessions, it is quite enjoyable and I'm having an absolute blast.

Well it's official. I am excited about a Tetris game.

Just poking my head in here to say that if you haven't looked at PlayStation Now in awhile (or at all), you might take another gander. I know a lot of people were put off by the service only offering streaming options and only offering PS3 games, but Sony has since augmented that with PS4 games that you can stream or download.

There are about 170 PS4 games now available. They're not the biggest and the newest games, no, but I haven't had any trouble finding things to play, and if I don't like something, it's a lot easier to just ditch it and move on to the next thing.

Here are all the PS4 games on there (swapped the Wikipedia list with a list from Sony; sorry about any weird formatting): [Edit: I give up I can't find a current list of just the PS4 games that doesn't omit something I know is on there.]

Abzû
Aces Of The Luftwaffe
Action Henk
Agatha Christie: The Abc Murders
Air Conflicts: Pacific Carriers
Alchemic Jousts
Alienation
Anomaly 2
Ape Escape 2 (ps2 Classics)
Aragami
Atari Flashback Classics Vol 1
Assetto Corsa
Back To Bed
Baseball Riot
Batman - The Telltale Series - Episode 1: Realm Of Shadows
Battleborn
Battle Worlds Kronos
Beyond: Two Souls
Binaries
Blazblue Chronophantasma Extend
Bloodborne
Blood Bowl 2
Bound
Broken Age
Brothers: A Tale Of Two Sons
The Bug Butcher
Castlestorm Definitive Edition
Crimsonland
Clouds & Sheep 2
Croixluer Sigma
Darksiders
Darksiders Ii: Deathinitive Edition
Darksiders: Warmastered Edition
Day Of The Tentacle Remastered
Dead Nation Apocalypse
Dead Island: Definitive Edition
Dead Island: Retro Revenge
Deadlight: Director’s Cut
Defense Grid 2
Dirt Rally
Disgaea 5: Alliance Of Vengeance
Divinity Original Sin - Enhanced Edition
Doki-doki Universe
Don't Die, Mr. Robot!
Dungeons 2
The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited
Entwined
Escape Plan
Eve: Valkyrie - Warzone
Eventide: Slavic Fable
Everybody's Gone To The Rapture
Evolve
Exile's End
Exist Archive: The Other Side Of The Sky
Extreme Exorcism
Fairy Fencer F Advent Dark Force
Farming Simulator 17
Fat Princess Adventures
F1 2015
F1 2016
Fluster Cluck
Giana Sisters: Twisted Dreams - Director's Cut
God Of War 3: Remastered
Grand Ages: Medieval
Gravity Rush Remastered
Grim Fandango
Grim Legends: The Forsaken Bride
Guilty Gear Xrd -revelator-
Hardware: Rivals
Heavy Rain
Helldivers
Hohokum
Joe Dever's Lone Wolf
Kickbeat Special Edition
Killzone Shadow Fall
King Oddball
Knack
Krinkle Krusher
Kromaia Omega
Legend Of Kay Anniversary
Lego Batman 3: Beyond Gotham
Leo's Fortune
Lone Survivor: Director’s Cut
Lords Of The Fallen
Lost Sea
Lovely Planet
Mantis Burn Racing
Megadimension Neptunia Vii
Metal Slug 3
Mitsurugi Kamui Hikae
Mousecraft
Mystery Chronicle: One Way Heroics
N.e.r.o.: Nothing Ever Remains Obscure
Nba 2k16
Nidhogg
Nightmares From The Deep: The Cursed Heart
Nova-111
Olliolli
Olliolli2: Welcome To Olliwood
Omega Quintet
Overlord: Fellowship Of Evil
Pang Adventures
Payday 2
Pharaonic
Pixel Piracy
Poncho
Pure Chess
Pure Hold'em World Poker Championship
Pure Pool
Q*bert: Rebooted
Resogun
Risen 3: Titan Lords - Enhanced Edition
Saint’s Row Iv Re-elected
Saint’s Row: Gat Out Of Hell
Seasons After Fall
Sébastien Loeb Rally Evo
Shadow Of The Beast
Shadwen
Sine Mora Ex
Soul Axiom
Sound Shapes
Space Hulk
Sparkle 2
Sparkle Unleashed
Stardust Galaxy Warriors: Stellar Climax
Stealth Inc Ultimate Edition
Stealth Inc 2: A Game Of Clones
Steredenn: Binary Stars
Styx: Master Of Shadows
Stick It To The Man
Strider
Super Exploding Zoo!
Super Mega Baseball
Super Stardust Ultra
Tearaway Unfolded
Tennis In The Face
Terraria
Teslagrad
The Last Tinker: City Of Colors
The Swapper
The Swindle
This War Of Mine: The Little Ones
Thomas Was Alone
Tiny Brains
Tiny Troopers Joint Ops
Toki Tori 2+
Tokyo Xanadu Ex+
Touhou: Scarlet Curiosity
Tour De France 2017
Tricky Towers
Tropico 5
Unfinished Swan
Ultratron
Ultra Street Fighter Iv
Valentino Rossi The Game
Velocibox
Velocity 2x
Warhammer: End Times – Vermintide
Wasteland 2: Director's Cut
Whispering Willows
World To The West
Wwe 2k16
Xcom 2
Yesterday Origins
Ziggurat
Zombie Vikings

What happens with DLC with Playstation Now? What I really mean here is if I subscribe to Playstation Now and a game that is published there has DLC, do I get access to it? I don't own the game, I don't own the DLC, what experience is presented to me when I launch that game in Playstation Now?

ThatGuy42 wrote:

What happens with DLC with Playstation Now? What I really mean here is if I subscribe to Playstation Now and a game that is published there has DLC, do I get access to it? I don't own the game, I don't own the DLC, what experience is presented to me when I launch that game in Playstation Now?

PS4 games on PlayStation Now typically don't include DLC add-ons. Whether you stream the game or download it, it's basically like you've purchased a vanilla copy of the game.

If you download the game, you can buy any DLC you want and access it using the downloaded PS Now copy, and that stays with your account. So if you buy some DLC for a game, let your subscription lapse, and then buy a copy of that game, you'll get your DLC.

DLC you buy won't show up in a streamed copy of the game.

Does that answer your question?

Wait, you can downlaod games with Playstation Now? I thought that was a streaming only service. And then buy DLC to add on to what you've downloaded?

Think I'll go maybe do a bigger look into Playstation Now capabilities.

Yeah, all the PS4 games on PlayStation Now can be downloaded to your PS4 and played locally. You also don't need PS+ to play games you get this way online.

PS3 games are still streamed exclusively, although the streaming works really well.

PSNow would be a better proposition if they included first-party like Xbox does, but of course, Sony first-party games are currently much better than their Xbox counterparts.

Yeah, although first-party offers aside (which isn't a huge draw for me with Xbox), I think Sony has the better offering. The PS Now library is larger and more diverse. I've had a much easier time finding things to try there than on Game Pass. I also love being able to preview a game instantly via streaming instead of having to commit to downloading it. I'd love to be able to preview something like Quantum Break without having to download all 109 GB of it and kill 10% of my monthly data cap before I even know if I'll like it.

PS Now was a cool concept with a terrible execution when it launched, but it's pretty great now. Sony doesn't have nearly the confidence in it that Microsoft has in Game Pass, though. They have a great product, but they don't advertise it at all. (Instead, they advertise the heck out of PS+ which, in my opinion, is a pretty crappy service.)

Now that they let you download the games instead of forcing you to stream them, I'm almost tempted to swap it for my GameFly account - especially considering PSNow is far cheaper. Too bad their catalog doesn't include the latest games...

Is PSnow still limited to certain regions?

I'm guessing Australia is yet to blessed?

Unfortunately, it looks like Australia, South America, and Africa are still out in the cold on PS Now because of server latency. It's a shame they won't let you just download the games from the library.