NFL 2012-2013 Post-Super Bowl Offseason Thread

*Legion* wrote:

I would sign Eric Winston in Jacksonville. Or anywhere else that has a serious RT need, really.

I just saw story on the KC Star that intimated that his calling out fans may have played into the decision. And from the comments (God, I hate reading those) there does seem to be a strong sentiment against the guy. It's too bad, because he was right.

On the field, Winston’s level of play was probably about what the Chiefs expected. But he became a polarizing figure in Kansas City when, after an early-season game against Baltimore, he was critical of some Chiefs fans for what he said was cheering after an injury to quarterback Matt Cassel.

Had Winston played more than one season, he may have eventually been able to win over Chiefs fans. But, as it stands, that will be his legacy in Kansas City.

“That’s the way it goes sometimes,” he said. “I look back and still feel I did the right thing. A lot of people I respect not only in the league but in life have come up to me and said the same thing. I know I’m not alone in that assessment. I actually don’t think I’m in the minority in that assessment.

“I never wanted to imply it was every single person in the stadium, or every Chiefs fan. I said what I said. I still mean it to this day. I still feel that way and I’ll probably always continue to feel this way.”

For me, that's a guy you want on your team.

Enix wrote:

Anyone need a cornerback? The Panthers dumped Chris Gamble because of the salary cap.

He's a little banged up and getting up there in age. But he has a few good years left in him and is an average-to-above corner. He might even work for cheap!

Nashville media today was talking like the Titans would go after him along with John Abraham.

Here's hoping the Giants retain Cruz at a fair deal.

This just in: Chiefs sign Guy Whimper. No. Joke.

Jayhawker wrote:

For me, that's a guy you want on your team.

Yes. And I hope for KC's sake that this wasn't a factor, because that better not be how a team runs their football operations.

Fans who cheer an injury are pieces of sh*t who deserved to be called out for it, and more. Grown men with their heads fully up their asses. KC may be the most recent example, but given enough losing, they'll pop up pretty much everywhere.

Winston is a smart and thoughtful guy on top of being one of the league's better right tackles. If there's no pressing medical issue that we're unaware of, I have to think some team is going to score with that FA signing.

garion333 wrote:

This just in: Chiefs sign Guy Whimper. No. Joke.

I'd have to imagine it was with no guaranteed money, which would really just make him a veteran tryout player. He can move a defensive end in the run game, but given his complete ineptness at pass blocking, I have to think that he only makes the roster if every late round and undrafted player the Chiefs bring in at tackle fails.

Never let this man be responsible for protecting your QB. He's good on the tackle eligible, though.

Tampa just re-signed LeGarrette Blount for one year, $1.75 million. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY are you re-signing a guy who carried the ball less than three times a game, can't pick up short yardage, fumbles at bad times, and is utterly worthless in the passing game?

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Tampa just re-signed LeGarrette Blount for one year, $1.75 million. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY are you re-signing a guy who carried the ball less than three times a game, can't pick up short yardage, fumbles at bad times, and is utterly worthless in the passing game?

You just never know when you're going to need a Boise State player punched.

*Legion* wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Tampa just re-signed LeGarrette Blount for one year, $1.75 million. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY are you re-signing a guy who carried the ball less than three times a game, can't pick up short yardage, fumbles at bad times, and is utterly worthless in the passing game?

You just never know when you're going to need a Boise State player punched.

RUN DOUG RUN WHILE YOU CAN

Will Dan Snyder toss in a last minute lawsuit to hold up free agency on Monday morning in order to get some cap relief?

Minnesota is trading Percy Harvin to the Seahawks. No terms yet, but I'm going to go hide in my basement now from the probable rage of Adrian Peterson spreading across the entire metro area; I may leave the country, just to be safe.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Minnesota is trading Percy Harvin to the Seahawks. No terms yet, but I'm going to go hide in my basement now from the probable rage of Adrian Peterson spreading across the entire metro area; I may leave the country, just to be safe.

Sounds like a win for Fantasy Football, Russell Wilson, and Percy Harvin to me. Christian Ponder was also much much better when Harvin was available for him.

Aaaaaand CB Chris Gamble retires. Or says he is. Either way, you can't have him.

I'm not sure I understand why now. Gamble has nine years in the league, so he's not completely done. Then again, he has nine years in and is coming off a pretty severe shoulder injury. That sort of thing probably makes you take stock of your body and what you want to look like/feel like at age 35.

S0LIDARITY wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Minnesota is trading Percy Harvin to the Seahawks. No terms yet, but I'm going to go hide in my basement now from the probable rage of Adrian Peterson spreading across the entire metro area; I may leave the country, just to be safe.

Sounds like a win for Fantasy Football, Russell Wilson, and Percy Harvin to me. Christian Ponder was also much much better when Harvin was available for him.

It's apparently a 1st and 7th this year, plus mid-round next year. Honestly, this sounds like a potential lose-lose trade to me; Harvin's great when he's healthy, and the "when he's healthy" part is important. Seattle gives up a few picks (really not that bad of a price), but Harvin apparently wants HUGE money, and, if his injury history holds up, it's pretty dangerous. The Vikings lose their only skill position player worth crap not named "Adrian Peterson" (OK, or Kyle Rudolph), and it helps take the wind out of the sails of a surprising playoff year last year. Curious to see how much money he gets.

As Mike Tanier said on Twitter:

A first round pick plus change for a disgruntled, injury prone WR would be great for the Vikings if they had any other WRs. At all.

It's one of those "makes sense for everybody yet could be a disaster either way" trades, even more than usual.

I don't think the injury-prone label is fair for Harvin. He missed two games in 2009, two games in 2010, and seven games in 2012. Source.

S0LIDARITY wrote:

I don't think the injury-prone label is fair for Harvin. [cites injuries]. Source.

Yeah, injury prone.

So what are Minnesota's plans for wide receiver now?

Christian Ponder started to come around at the end of last year, especially in that winning streak to get the team into the playoffs. Granted, that winning streak happened without Harvin, but they clearly need some answers at that position.

Well, they'll have picks 23 and 25 in the 1st round, there's some receivers they can draft down there. This isn't a great WR draft at the top. Last year, people were critical that Justin Blackmon wasn't an AJ Green type of player. Well, there isn't even any prospect close to a Justin Blackmon in this draft.

*Legion* wrote:

So what are Minnesota's plans for wide receiver now?

Christian Ponder started to come around at the end of last year, especially in that winning streak to get the team into the playoffs. Granted, that winning streak happened without Harvin, but they clearly need some answers at that position.

Well, they'll have picks 23 and 25 in the 1st round, there's some receivers they can draft down there. This isn't a great WR draft at the top. Last year, people were critical that Justin Blackmon wasn't an AJ Green type of player. Well, there isn't even any prospect close to a Justin Blackmon in this draft.

Greg Jennings? no clue about their cap situation.

The way it sounds they had differences that couldn't be reconciled so cashing in was maybe the only option. Pretty good haul considering.

I have to say, I think buying Greg Jennings in free agency is going to be a losing proposition for the buyer.

He's an awesome guy, so I'd be happy to be wrong, but I think he's going to be one of those guys who doesn't have that special talent to make plays no matter how bad the QB, and will struggle going from the caliber of QBs he had in Green Bay to wherever he ends up. Especially being 29 already, coming off groin injury (and a late season MCL sprain right before that).

*Legion* wrote:

I have to say, I think buying Greg Jennings in free agency is going to be a losing proposition for the buyer.

He's an awesome guy, so I'd be happy to be wrong, but I think he's going to be one of those guys who doesn't have that special talent to make plays no matter how bad the QB, and will struggle going from the caliber of QBs he had in Green Bay to wherever he ends up. Especially being 29 already, coming off groin injury (and a late season MCL sprain right before that).

I don't disagree. Just there are a couple of WRs in the market this year so Minny does have that option.... you know the option where you potentially horribly overpay a guy instead of drafting and developing your own talent.

That might be a better option though than reaching for a bunch of guys in this years draft and pretty much erasing the picks you got from Seattle.

Either way I'm not sure if I rate the Vikings are a totally functional organization. Letting Harvin go before the value tanked was probably smart but I wouldn't bet on them making the right next decision.

The obvious problem is the lack of quality WRs out there; Bowe re-signed with KC, sounds like Welker goes back to NE, I agree with the assessment on Jennings, and really only Mike Wallace is out there as a potential big-impact guy, but everybody knows that, so his price is going to go flying up. Maybe Minnesota is planning on trading up to get Tavon Austin, who seems like a Harvin-ish kind of guy.

The Vikings were kind of screwed here, so at least they got good value out of a trade. Harvin didn't want to stick around, so they got what they could.

Catching ESPN SportsNation. Apparently Kaepernick is in the running for the Madden Cover.

Please God no. I want another Super Bowl shot next year.

Speaking of WRs, Ravens trade Anquan Boldin to SF.

For a 6th rounder, which is better than the zero they were gonna get by cutting him. Surprised he didn't go for a bit more, but I'll take it.

Stele wrote:

Catching ESPN SportsNation. Apparently Kaepernick is in the running for the Madden Cover.

Please God no. I want another Super Bowl shot next year.

What? No Flacco? Travesty! He makes the most money, so put his 80 rated ass on the cover!

garion333 wrote:

For a 6th rounder, which is better than the zero they were gonna get by cutting him. Surprised he didn't go for a bit more, but I'll take it.

Surprised too that SF only had to spill a 6th rounder. Very nice pick up for them.

Wallace to the Dolphins Kruger to the Browns....

The Wallace money is apparently silly for what he actually is. So a result of free agency not the cap.

Kruger on the other hand not sure if the money was silly so more of a result of the salary cap era.

Not sure what to expect from the Ravens next year. Lots of roster turnover.

The Bills released Fitzpatrick today. Looks like Geno Smith or Tarvaris Jackson will be starting in Buffalo this year.

It now appears marketing to the fans is really taking over the personnel department in KC, as they have just signed Chase Daniel to compete for the back-up QB role. The guy was a great player for Mizzou, but I don't see how he fits into the plans for KC, at all.

But it is the kind of signing that will add some % of season tickets sold, even if he will never step on the field.

Kruger has been in development for a while and without Ngata and Suggs being double teamed I'm not so sure how he'll perform.