Grand Theft Auto V

Rykin wrote:
CptGlanton wrote:

Giant Bomb has a story about Rockstar warning 360 owners not to do the second, optional disc install.

GTA V comes with both an 8GB install disc and a separate “play” disc on Xbox 360. That initial 8GB install is required, and while you can optionally install the second “play” disc, Rockstar recommends against that for performance reasons. Once the mandatory install is over, the player does not have to ever swap discs.

According to Rockstar disc 1 is the mandatory install disc and disc 2 is the play disc. It sounds like they are doing some tricksy stuff where they have the game load from HDD and DVD at the same time and if you install both discs to the HDD it actually causes stuff to load slower and thus affect the performance in a negative fashion. No idea if you can install to the HDD and say a Flash drive to get around having the disc spinning up like a jet engine all the time or not.

People are reporting to install the play disk on a usb flash drive for good performance without the jet engine disk drive.

AP Erebus wrote:

PC PC PC PC PC PC (I want it on PC)

Side tangent: I've been saying this about RDR for the last 3 years.

Carry on.

http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/201...

It's amazing, but Tom Chick even seems to like it. A lot!

I want to hold out for the PS4 version, but this praise weakens my resolve. Nothing like GTA for exploration, and this seems to have it in spades.

simpilot wrote:

http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/201...

It's amazing, but Tom Chick even seems to like it. A lot!

Oh gods, that's worrying.

I picked this up for $80, which is a good deal here. They're selling it for $110 at EB Games, which made me chuckle.

I completely skipped IV, although I do have it and all the DLC on my Steam account, just never got around to actually playing it. By all accounts I made the right choice there, but I'm actually pretty excited to get back into GTA, I really enjoyed Vice City and San Andreas.

The fact that I weaseled out of work early in order to get to the midnight release in time is proof positive that I am a gigantic moron. That was a very, very long line to stand in. Bluh. Either way, once more into the breach.

I'm going to learn from your mistake and pick up mine tomorrow.

Aw, fer chrissake... there's an INSTALL disk? Uuuugh.

Also noticed that the countdown on XBL apparently is on Hawaii time, since i'm reasonably sure those of us on the east coast don't need to wait another 3:45 to play the game.

EDIT: From what I'm already seeing, I think we can all reasonably assume, given how much of a hard-on R* seems to have for Heat, that GTA VI will literally just be a scene-for-scene recreation of that movie.

EDIT EDIT: OH MY GOD INSTALLING WINDOWS VISTA TAKES LESS TIME THAN THIS.

Prederick wrote:

EDIT EDIT: OH MY GOD INSTALLING WINDOWS VISTA TAKES LESS TIME THAN THIS.

Laugh it up. I was up in the air over which console version to get, but ultimately decided to do the digital download preorder through PSN because I assumed it would be easier and faster than standing in line for a couple hours or waiting for the mail to arrive... Only I forgot to take into account how sh*tty PSN is and how popular the game would be. Estimated download time is currently sitting at 10 hours and has been gradually increasing since I started.

It's a little past midnight in my local time zone. I'm standing in the parking lot of my local GameStop. I've been standing in line for about twenty minutes to pick up my copy of GTA V. I can't even see the entrance of the store. The line wraps around the building and flowes into the parking lot. Ironically the line started moving at exactly 12:02. This makes me feel a little happier. And from what I understand, when I get home I get the pleasure of waiting for an 8 Gig day one update. Still, I'm a little giddy.

ruhk wrote:
Prederick wrote:

EDIT EDIT: OH MY GOD INSTALLING WINDOWS VISTA TAKES LESS TIME THAN THIS.

Laugh it up. I was up in the air over which console version to get, but ultimately decided to do the digital download preorder through PSN because I assumed it would be easier and faster than standing in line for a couple hours or waiting for the mail to arrive... Only I forgot to take into account how sh*tty PSN is and how popular the game would be. Estimated download time is currently sitting at 10 hours and has been gradually increasing since I started.

Also, most PS3s only run on 2.5ghz WiFi, no? I thought about this, but it would have taken forever to download the game. And another 3 or 4 hours to "install" it.

Pred's Early 3-4 Hours of Gameplay Review:

Did you enjoy GTA IV? Did you play it and say, "despite the obvious flaws, I really like the characters and gameplay, I loved driving around the world they created, causing havoc and this is a great game that just needs some further tweaking"? If so, then buy GTA V.

Did you hate GTA IV? Did you play it and say, "this game is a over-hyped mess with god-awful controls. It's boring, not half as witty as it thinks it is, is colossally self-important and it does a terrible job of storytelling"? Then do not buy GTA V.

Did you think BOTH of the above opinions? Well, if you're willing to take a $60 punt on a AAA title, you could do worse.

GTA V so far, is an improvement and expansion on IV. I don't mean "expansion" as a pejorative, as in "over-hyped DLC", it's obviously had a lot of love and care spent on correcting its flaws, the world is huge and just as expansive and immersive, and they've directly addressed the challenges Saints Row threw at them. But I'm biased, I'm someone who got a ton of mileage out of GTA IV, and I absolutely wouldn't say that GTA V is a departure from the kind of GTA game R* has been creating these last few years. It's not quite "more of the same", but it's definitely "more in a not dissimilar vein".

Honestly, if you were at best lukewarm on GTA IV, I don't think V's going to do a whole lot more for you. But if you did enjoy IV, this is a can't miss. Especially with the looming promise of GTA Online on the horizon.

And if you've never played a game in the series? No idea. At this point, frankly, I'm beginning to describe GTA as an acquired taste. Either you're catching what R* is throwing at this point, or you're not.

In other news, doing drive-bys while blasting "What a Fool Believes" is wonderful. I'm enjoying the the new car physics. And I have no idea why in god's name they decided to finally allow the topless bars to ACTUALLY be topless but I guess you might as well earn that M rating.

EDIT: Oh, oh! If protagonists who are genuinely assholes puts you off, again, do not buy GTA V.

EDIT v2: Oh, and for some good scenic fun and a taste of RDR, take the cable-car ride up Mount Chiliad, and then dirtbike down it.

GAT V is finally here! (no, not a typo, just Saint's Row doing its thing...)

http://www.vg247.com/2013/09/17/saints-row-4-gatv-dlc-out-now-on-steam-is-free/

Heh. I have GTA V (after a lengthy dashboard update, I am waiting for the near-8GB mandatory installation to finish; all in all, it's been about 25 minutes thus far) but I am really tempted to play the SR4 DLC instead.

I picked my copy up from a supermarket at 8am, for £34. Hilariously, there was a queue of kids in school uniforms clutching the game. After turning down the first four, the lady on the checkout shouted "IF YOU ARE IN A SCHOOL UNIFORM, I'M NOT SELLING IT TO YOU!", leaving a cluster of disgruntled teenagers milling about.

I sauntered to the till, paid up, and was pursued by half a dozen kids saying "Mister! Buy it for me!", to which I laughed and walked off, game in hand.

Can't wait to get home today.

If you need a head-to-head article to figure out which version to buy, Digital Foundry's Face-off is up.

Prederick wrote:

Pred's Early 3-4 Hours of Gameplay Review:

Did you enjoy GTA IV? Did you play it and say, "despite the obvious flaws, I really like the characters and gameplay, I loved driving around the world they created, causing havoc and this is a great game that just needs some further tweaking"? If so, then buy GTA V.

Did you hate GTA IV? Did you play it and say, "this game is a over-hyped mess with god-awful controls. It's boring, not half as witty as it thinks it is, is colossally self-important and it does a terrible job of storytelling"? Then do not buy GTA V.

Did you think BOTH of the above opinions? Well, if you're willing to take a $60 punt on a AAA title, you could do worse.

GTA V so far, is an improvement and expansion on IV. I don't mean "expansion" as a pejorative, as in "over-hyped DLC", it's obviously had a lot of love and care spent on correcting its flaws, the world is huge and just as expansive and immersive, and they've directly addressed the challenges Saints Row threw at them. But I'm biased, I'm someone who got a ton of mileage out of GTA IV, and I absolutely wouldn't say that GTA V is a departure from the kind of GTA game R* has been creating these last few years. It's not quite "more of the same", but it's definitely "more in a not dissimilar vein".

Honestly, if you were at best lukewarm on GTA IV, I don't think V's going to do a whole lot more for you. But if you did enjoy IV, this is a can't miss. Especially with the looming promise of GTA Online on the horizon.

And if you've never played a game in the series? No idea. At this point, frankly, I'm beginning to describe GTA as an acquired taste. Either you're catching what R* is throwing at this point, or you're not.

In other news, doing drive-bys while blasting "What a Fool Believes" is wonderful. I'm enjoying the the new car physics. And I have no idea why in god's name they decided to finally allow the topless bars to ACTUALLY be topless but I guess you might as well earn that M rating.

EDIT: Oh, oh! If protagonists who are genuinely assholes puts you off, again, do not buy GTA V.

EDIT v2: Oh, and for some good scenic fun and a taste of RDR, take the cable-car ride up Mount Chiliad, and then dirtbike down it.

What about if you're a person who LOVED RDR but really didn't care for GTAIV? I thought the controls in GTAIV were really clunky and the shooting + hand-to-hand combat was just not that great. All were improved on in RDR, has this carried over to GTAV?

**Edit** Also, Niko(sp?) to me, was just a downright boring character. How do the three in this compare?

Decided to pick this up after work today. I liked the giantbomb quick look. Maybe it will be the first rockstar game I finish. The heists look really neat and actually have me interested in the online, which I usually don't care about.

So, filthy skimmer question. Is there a gwj group for 360? How to I join?

Cousin! Let's go bowling!

The Conformist wrote:

What about if you're a person who LOVED RDR but really didn't care for GTAIV? I thought the controls in GTAIV were really clunky and the shooting + hand-to-hand combat was just not that great. All were improved on in RDR, has this carried over to GTAV?

**Edit** Also, Niko(sp?) to me, was just a downright boring character. How do the three in this compare?

If you preferred the shooting and melee mechanics in RDR they've improved even past that in GTA5. Melee carries a certain weight to the attacks that just makes it feel meaty and fun. Gunplay is more in line with Max Payne 3 than GTA4.

Has there been any word on if GTA Online will be possible to get as a stand alone purchase? I have no desire to experience the story of a couple of a dicks, but making my own dude and driving around in that massive world is very appealing.

Wanting this. But scared.

I loved GTA3, and Miami, er... Vice City. I was not a huge fan of San Andreas. It was too grounded in reality, if you know what I mean. GTA 4 was pretty fun though.

I'm afraid it's too much like San Andreas.

Have they dropped the less-than-useless side-rubbish like having to keep relationships up and taking people to play darts right in the middle of THE BIGGEST CRIMES IN HISTORY?

THat's ultimately what pushed me away from 4. I could live with the watery driving, the not-so-great shooting mechanics etc, but I was just so bored to tears of being forced to do the pointless side-missions to keep someone I have no interest in, happy. I don't mind the side-activities being in there, som eplay-sessions are best dealt just messing around, but I hated being forced into them with some chump I didn't even like.

Gumbie wrote:
Rykin wrote:
CptGlanton wrote:

Giant Bomb has a story about Rockstar warning 360 owners not to do the second, optional disc install.

GTA V comes with both an 8GB install disc and a separate “play” disc on Xbox 360. That initial 8GB install is required, and while you can optionally install the second “play” disc, Rockstar recommends against that for performance reasons. Once the mandatory install is over, the player does not have to ever swap discs.

According to Rockstar disc 1 is the mandatory install disc and disc 2 is the play disc. It sounds like they are doing some tricksy stuff where they have the game load from HDD and DVD at the same time and if you install both discs to the HDD it actually causes stuff to load slower and thus affect the performance in a negative fashion. No idea if you can install to the HDD and say a Flash drive to get around having the disc spinning up like a jet engine all the time or not.

People are reporting to install the play disk on a usb flash drive for good performance without the jet engine disk drive.

Any idea how large a flash drive is necessary for disc 2?

Mr_Sister wrote:

Any idea how large a flash drive is necessary for disc 2?

7.8 GB, according to Eurogamer.

I'm seriously considering buying another 360 if all you sh*theads are going to be playing online there. Can someone who's not lazy like me make a spreadsheet so we can see who is on what console and start adding friends list for when the online goes live?

@Mister_Sister

As far as I know, that whole notion of installing the play disk to a flash drive is pure speculation. It's a wonderful idea, though. And if R* makes that happen I will definitely be doing so.

DSGamer wrote:

Also, most PS3s only run on 2.5ghz WiFi, no? I thought about this, but it would have taken forever to download the game. And another 3 or 4 hours to "install" it.

Unless you are using the b spec for WiFi or you have some really fantastic internet service (i.e. fiber) then your WiFi is likely much faster than your internet connection and and from what I have seen your internet connection is probably way faster than Sony's

Rawkinmolie wrote:

@Mister_Sister

As far as I know, that whole notion of installing the play disk to a flash drive is pure speculation. It's a wonderful idea, though. And if R* makes that happen I will definitely be doing so.

Not speculation, the Eurogamer Digital Foundry team tried it out in their face-off:

We have tried installing the play disc to a USB flash drive though and this does seem to resolve the issue.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...

Rawkinmolie wrote:

@Mister_Sister

As far as I know, that whole notion of installing the play disk to a flash drive is pure speculation. It's a wonderful idea, though. And if R* makes that happen I will definitely be doing so.

Yeah definitely not speculation.