Manti T'eo and the dead girlfriend.....well maybe not?

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I can't wait to see how many layers this rotten onion has.

According to ESPN Te'o issued the following statement on Tuesday afternoon. ~24 hours prior to the deadspin article.

Manti Te'o wrote:

"This is incredibly embarrassing to talk about, but over an extended period of time, I developed an emotional relationship with a woman I met online. We maintained what I thought to be an authentic relationship by communicating frequently online and on the phone, and I grew to care deeply about her.

"To realize that I was the victim of what was apparently someone's sick joke and constant lies was, and is, painful and humiliating.

"It further pains me that the grief I felt and the sympathies expressed to me at the time of my grandmother's death in September were in any way deepened by what I believed to be another significant loss in my life.

"I am enormously grateful for the support of my family, friends and Notre Dame fans throughout this year. To think that I shared with them my happiness about my relationship and details that I thought to be true about her just makes me sick. I hope that people can understand how trying and confusing this whole experience has been.

"In retrospect, I obviously should have been much more cautious. If anything good comes of this, I hope it is that others will be far more guarded when they engage with people online than I was.

"Fortunately, I have many wonderful things in my life, and I'm looking forward to putting this painful experience behind me as I focus on preparing for the NFL Draft."

1. What about the supposed visits to Hawaii?
2. What about claiming to have met her at a game in Stanford?
3. What about the phone calls?
4. What about the 'sister' on Twitter?
5. What is his relationship with Tuiasosopo?

I hope I'm not supposed to feel bad that I said a gleeful "Oooooh boy!" when I clicked that article, because I totally don't. Love weird stories!

This is already turning into great photoshop fodder...

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The hugging his gf one is hilarious.

The Deadspin editor's appearance on CNN lays it out all pretty clearly that all is not kosher in the ND and Te'o version of the story.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/16/sport/...

Yeah I guess this was cluttering up two threads.

So to continue the discussion from there... what a great South Park this will make.

Stele wrote:

Yeah I guess this was cluttering up two threads.

So to continue the discussion from there... what a great South Park this will make.

Oh yes, and the Oprah interview.

Rexneron wrote:

The Deadspin editor's appearance on CNN lays it out all pretty clearly that all is not kosher in the ND and Te'o version of the story.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/16/sport/...

It seems like he is pulling an Armstrong and doubling down on the lie instead of confessing. The pathetic part is that it looks like Notre Dame has been complicit in the cover up, or else just really dumb.

Is it possible that he fabricated the face-to-face meetings to avoid the embarrassment of telling people he met a girl on Twitter and had never seen her in real life? Here's an even more messed up question: Those 8 hour phone calls happened while she was in a coma, right? All he heard was her breathing?

I mean... Is it possible?

4xis.black wrote:

Is it possible that he fabricated the face-to-face meetings to avoid the embarrassment of telling people he met a girl on Twitter and had never seen her in real life? Here's an even more messed up question: Those 8 hour phone calls happened while she was in a coma, right? All he heard was her breathing?

I mean... Is it possible?

This is the smoking gun IMO that there is far more to this than he was simply a blameless victim of a hoax. If someone you truly love is in a coma, sick, car accident, and then death...you can't simply continue to be believable if you haven't had interaction with enough layers (Parents...friends..doctors..nurses etc..) are we to believe these types of hoaxes are that sophisticated as well that his supposed deep love was that shallow that all he did was text, twitter and call her to listen to breathing??

At 4:30 yesterday, I thought he had to be in on it. Now, I'm not so sure. I completely believe that he could have had a deep relationship without meeting her or her family. Some of his public statements were exaggerated (our outright lies), but it's possible he is a victim here.

What changed your mind TheCounselor? None of my big concerns have been addressed yet.

TheCounselor wrote:

At 4:30 yesterday, I thought he had to be in on it. Now, I'm not so sure. I completely believe that he could have had a deep relationship without meeting her or her family. Some of his public statements were exaggerated (our outright lies), but it's possible he is a victim here.

I could almost be there with you but the perp was his cousin or close family friend.
Solidarity's questions still remain. And the Manti's Dad seems to know stuff too. Would you talk to the press about your sons SO having never met her? If your son was on track to make vast sums of money in the NFL would you not try to find out about this SO?

Catfish?

The only reason I could think of him making up a girlfriend would because he is gay and pretending not to be. Then it could have started out as a small lie and just got out of control when people started to ask to meet her and stuff. If that is the case then it is more of a reflection on what is wrong with sport as a whole then just one mixed up kid.

The last time I had a girlfriend was long before the Twitter age, back when you had to talk on the phone via long distance or -- gasp! -- write letters.

It was possible to fall in love long-distance with someone you hadn't actually met. But eventually you would get together. Someone would be in town for business, or you'd go to their city, or you'd meet halfway somewhere.

But to call someone your girlfriend (or boyfriend) even though you'd never actually met? That's ... weird. Possibly the only real exceptions to that rule are if your SO is in prison or if it's some sort of mail-order deal.

Let's say for just a second for the sake of argument that Te'o is the victim of some cruel hoax. That would be the most dedicated hoax team ever! Te'o described talking to her every night for hours on the phone.

Sorry, this simply does not hold water. Before the BCS game, I was championing this guy everywhere including here. I bought into the obviously fake story. But in listening to the ESPN guy who interviewed Te'o for college gameday earlier this year and Te'o's clearly elusive answers about her, there is no doubt that he was a part of it.

Now the question is, what happens now? This idiot is supposed to be a #1 draft pick! How would he ever be able to show his face not only on a field every Sunday but in a locker room? What team would want someone who perpetuated a fraud of such a massive scale for completely selfish gains? He has now gone from "the" likable guy in football to being among the biggest dirtbags (that spot is saved for Suh) ever to play the game?

I know if the Saints draft and sign this idiot, I am selling my season tickets. But only after I go to the first game with a sign or two for good old Te'o...

Well, this just keeps getting deeper. Now other people are coming forward saying they knew Kekua, including other players like Reagan Mauia of the Arizona Cardinals. (About halfway down this link.)

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/17/sport/...

What is going on here?

LOL

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This is easily the strangest sports story I have ever heard....maybe even more than just sports-related

jowner wrote:

LOL

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Now we see the moment when finger -> butt happens.

MountaineerWR27 wrote:

This is easily the strangest sports story I have ever heard....maybe even more than just sports-related

and its pure gold that its Deadspin.com who nailed it.

The thing that puts me over the edge to Te'o's complicity with the hoax is his dad's involvement. I could see a kid making bad decisions and lying about it for social pressure reasons and all regardless of when he found out about the hoax as long as he was hoaxed to begin with. But his dad's involvement in the press story really puts it out there as no effing possible way this wasn't being orchestrated as a PR move.

Yeah, pure PR move. Hilarious, tragically stupid PR move. Glorious PR move. I realize it's only January, but we've got a strong contender for 2013 Story of the Year already.

tanstaafl wrote:

Well, this just keeps getting deeper. Now other people are coming forward saying they knew Kekua, including other players like Reagan Mauia of the Arizona Cardinals. (About halfway down this link.)

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/17/sport/...

What is going on here?

It's obvious she was a lovely, engaging, charming Nigerian princess.

I've read a bit about this; and perhaps I'm just a easily hornswoggled, but I really don't think Teo knew; I think Teo was hoaxed. I think he was probably ashamed that he had an "online" girlfriend, and so made up the bit about going to see her, but as to the rest; I really think Teo was probably hoaxed.

Friends of mine with both football connections and mormon connections are putting forth the theory that Teo is gay; and the "girlfriend" was a beard...which, while outrageous, still makes more sense to me than believing that this whole thing was set up to try and influence the Heisman awards, which is the theory I'm seeing floated in various media outlets.

I dunno, the whole thing is sad. I feel sorry for Teo, because I don't believe he was the architect of this bruhaha.

I am sort of annoyed though, mostly because now if I wear my Notre Dame sweatshirt to the gym, people will try to talk to me. I hate when people talk to me at the gym, so I have to go find something else to wear.

S0LIDARITY wrote:

What changed your mind TheCounselor? None of my big concerns have been addressed yet.

Well, part of it is the Notre Dame Athletic Director's press conference last night. He seemed to really believe the kid, when it would seem the school would have lots of incentive to come completely clean.

He definitely could be involved. He could be gay. But, it's also possible that he fell in love with a girl online, never met her for various reasons, and exaggerated that relationship for the media when Notre Dame started winning games. Sure, there are statements from Te'o and his father that need to be explained. But, sometimes we say things that aren't technically true, but we believe them to be true. I'm still not convinced one way or another, but yesterday afternoon I wouldn't have considered the possibility Te'o was a victim, but I'm unsure right now.

I'll leave it to someone else more enterprising and Web-savvy to find that Broadway clip of the actor singing, "I'm a Mormon, and a Mormon just believes."

What I actually meant to say here is that we should bear in mind that "Lennay Kekua" is an anagram for "Anal Knee Yuk."

tanstaafl wrote:

Well, this just keeps getting deeper. Now other people are coming forward saying they knew Kekua, including other players like Reagan Mauia of the Arizona Cardinals. (About halfway down this link.)

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/17/sport/...

What is going on here?

Seriously, they're still using "her" twitter account? This is ridiculous.

Not that Te'o couldn't conceivably be gay, but if you're so ashamed of your sexuality you need to hide it with a fake girlfriend (which is tragically possible), I'd think you'd do it in a lower-profile manner than this. Publicly announcing your internet girlfriend died and is inspiring you would be the stupidest thing conceivable if you were hiding some kind of shame. I vote for "asinine PR move" above all, as they theoretically met three years ago and spoke on the phone every night for months. If this is some kind of hoax, it's an incredibly carefully-crafted hoax.

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