NCAA Football 2013-2014 discussion

Fedaykin98 wrote:
I've heard similar.

Also, their backup recently transferred to a different school, presumably for playing time. Whoops.

I'm sure firesloth knows more. How does this affect you outlook on this fall (thankfully drawing closer), sloth?

Don't yet know much about the dismissal. There are now only 3 QBs available (2 seniors!!). Tommy Rees was instrumental in keeping ND going when Golson had rough spots during the season, but he's slow as dirt and a liability because of it. Andrew Hendrix is very big, got a great arm, and a very good running QB. But, his passing game isn't up to Golson's level, despite 4 years in school (I think I can understand that, as he's a premed major!).

Now, Malik Zaire is an incoming freshman. He's a very interesting prospect, probably better than Golson was coming in. However, he's a true freshman.

I foresee lots of offensive struggles (2 leading rushers, a studly TE, and most O-line has changed over). Probably several experiments with QBs. I expect we'll see all 3 of those folks during the season. I also expect we'll go 8-4 or worse. Still, I predicted 9-3 or 8-4 at the beginning of last season.

Big deal, Ryan Tannehill was pre-med, and now he's the quarterback for the Dolphins!

According to this article, NCAA rules would allow Gunner Kiel to transfer back to Notre Dame and play this fall!

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles...

Fedaykin98 wrote:
According to this article, NCAA rules would allow Gunner Kiel to transfer back to Notre Dame and play this fall!

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles...

Hahahaha. The bigger question would be whether or not ND would take him!

Fedaykin98 wrote:
Big deal, Ryan Tannehill was pre-med, and now he's the quarterback for the Dolphins!

Two things:

1) Tannehill probably presumed he would start rather than ride the bench his whole career, which I imagine affects how one weights his energy during the school year.

2) Sure, Tannehill may be an NFL quartback, but it's the MIAMI DOLPHINS! Eh.

I don't understand #1. I want to feel the sick burn, but I don't get it.

No, not a burn. It's just, if you think you're going to be riding the bench your whole career, I suspect you distribute your time and energy differently than if you are likely to be starting. If you have a time as a back-up when you are trying to answer the question: "Should I spend these two hours I have learning that extra bit about opposing defenses so I can be a bit prepared for Saturday or I could spend it making sure I have an A on the upcoming exam?", the answer may be different depending on what your prospects for the job are.

Who knows, that supposition may be completely without merit.

Still, not meant as a burn (even though I am *fire*sloth). I mean, it's not as if I made some comment about the relative academic merits of the two institutions!

The other rumor is that Golson ran off with Teo's girlfriend.

i38warhawk wrote:
The other rumor is that Golson ran off with Teo's girlfriend.

I was going to work a Manti reference into an eventual response to firesloth's jab about academic merits, but I would never begrudge another man bringing up this evergreen topic, which has given so much joy to so many.

Seriously though, Notre Dame is a very well regarded school academically. One does wonder if Teo is a top-seventeen caliber mind, though.

But why are we talking academics in a football thread? There are few points of comparison, really. Notre Dame has a highly-regarded law school, where Texas A&M is a leader in petroleum engineering and veterinary sciences. ND costs five times what A&M does.

Again, great stuff, but not for the football thread. Let's talk about football, dammit!

The Aggies and the Irish had two common opponents last season.

Notre Dame beat OU 30-13; Texas A&M beat them 41-13.

Texas A&M beat Bama 29-24; how did Notre Dame do?

For the record, I was pointing out that I *didn't* make any comparison (half way because I don't know much about A&M, but that it is a larger public university). Each school in the country is different, each has its own standards. Students in one college of a university have a much different experience difficulty wise compared with others.

Back to Golson – he put out a letter saying he wants to come back and that he had poor judgement, etc. It tries to make it sound like he just didn't make the grade while at the same time not lying about what did happen. I have no knowledge, but it sounds to me like he tried to cheat and got his ass handed to him for it. Poor judgement, indeed. And lack of maturity on top of arrogance (to think he would get away with it).

FYI A&M is ranked #65 by US News; Notre Dame is tied with Rice (right down the street from me!) and Vandy for 17th.

Seriously though, Notre Dame is a very well regarded school academically. One does wonder if Teo is a top-seventeen caliber mind, though.

Ahhh...that's where the "top-seventeen" comes from! Well, as I'm sure you experienced, there is a broad distribution in student quality within each school!

firesloth wrote:
Seriously though, Notre Dame is a very well regarded school academically. One does wonder if Teo is a top-seventeen caliber mind, though.

Ahhh...that's where the "top-seventeen" comes from! Well, as I'm sure you experienced, there is a broad distribution in student quality within each school!

I'll say. There were a few guys that I couldn't believe had graduated from high school.

Fedaykin98 wrote:
firesloth wrote:
Seriously though, Notre Dame is a very well regarded school academically. One does wonder if Teo is a top-seventeen caliber mind, though.

Ahhh...that's where the "top-seventeen" comes from! Well, as I'm sure you experienced, there is a broad distribution in student quality within each school!

I'll say. There were a few guys that I couldn't believe had graduated from high school.

That sentence accurately describes a weekend I spent in College Station many moons ago.

i38warhawk wrote:
Fedaykin98 wrote:
I'll say. There were a few guys that I couldn't believe had graduated from high school.

That sentence accurately describes a weekend I spent in College Station many moons ago.

Business majors strike again!

*ducks thrown objects*

i38warhawk wrote:
Fedaykin98 wrote:
firesloth wrote:
Seriously though, Notre Dame is a very well regarded school academically. One does wonder if Teo is a top-seventeen caliber mind, though.

Ahhh...that's where the "top-seventeen" comes from! Well, as I'm sure you experienced, there is a broad distribution in student quality within each school!

I'll say. There were a few guys that I couldn't believe had graduated from high school.

That sentence accurately describes a weekend I spent in College Station many moons ago.

I would expect this comment from someone else, someone, say...not from Arkansas.

In fact, Alabama likely would have been left out of the BCS National Championship Game this past season had Ohio State, which went 12-0, not been on NCAA probation and ineligible for the postseason.

"That's exactly right, and how well would they have done had they played the six [SEC] teams that were ranked in the top 10?" said Saban, whose Crimson Tide routed Notre Dame 42-14 in the national title game. "Would they have beaten them all? Would they have beaten three of them?

For the record, Bama was 2-1, since they avoided South Carolina and Florida, and lost to A&M. This year, of the six other SEC teams in the preseason AP 25, they play two of them, and maybe a third in the championship game. Trying to infer that Ohio State is avoiding six tough teams is a pretty disingenuous argument.

While I have been a fan of going to four 16 team conferences, I am beginning to believe that the even 14 teams, let alone 16, really dilutes and ruins the unity in a conference. This is not a, "Who's conference is better" discussion, but a "What's the point of being in a conference with teams you don't play" discussion. As it stands, and it will probably change, Alabama plays in Columbia, MO once every six years. I don't think that's what Mizzou fans were buying into.

Last year, Kansas played 11 games (lost every single one!) against bowl teams. This year, they play 10 teams that were in bowl games last season, and Louisiana Tech, who would have, but bungled their invite despite a 9-3 record (including nearly beating A&M for a 10th win). Their top end is much, much better in the SEC, but week in and week out, the Big 12 might feature a better slate of games.

It might, but it won't.

I'm holding to our new tone, so seriously, no nonsense, tell me what are the big games in the Big 12 this year?

I will tune in to watch the Sooners give the longhorns their yearly beating. Depending on what else is on, I'll probably tune in on Thanksgiving night, as well.

After that, what are the games with wide appeal? I know OU-OSU is a good intrastate rivalry, but I will only watch it by happenstance.

In deference to boogle and others, I'm not going to toss out a bunch of SEC games and escalate this all the way into a conference epeen discussion. But if you want to make some assertion with zero examples, I'll bite. What are the examples?

My argument would be that Iowa State/TCU or K State/Texas Tech is more interesting than Kentucky/Vanderbilt or Missouri/South Carolina. I already said that in the top end, the SEC has much, much more interesting teams. But the 14 game schedule means they don't actually play each other that much.

Both the SEC and Big 12 had nine bowl teams. So each week, every Big 12 game features bowl teams playing each other when they aren't playing Kansas. The games that the SEC Network will make national are games national networks weren't interested in showing in the first place.

Fedaykin98 wrote:
I'm holding to our new tone, so seriously, no nonsense, tell me what are the big games in the Big 12 this year?
I'm sure it's personal preference, but I couldn't care less about 'big games' and care more about good football games that are interesting to watch.
e.g.
Big -> Champ game
fun to watch -> OU/WVU

boogle wrote:
Fedaykin98 wrote:
I'm holding to our new tone, so seriously, no nonsense, tell me what are the big games in the Big 12 this year?
I'm sure it's personal preference, but I couldn't care less about 'big games' and care more about good football games that are interesting to watch.
e.g.
Big -> Champ game
fun to watch -> OU/WVU

I enjoy both. Last year, I basically watched these categories:

Texas A&M games
Games with BCS implications
Famous rivalry games
SEC games
Games where I get to see the longhorns lose

Also, Jayhawker, I consider all 4 of those games you named to be fairly boring, to be honest.

KSU vs anybody doesn't interest me unless they are a contender again. Same with TCU. Iowa State? Please.

At least SCar-Mizzou features the ol' ball coach and Clowney. I won't go out of my way to watch it, or any game featuring Kentucky, though.

Fedaykin98 wrote:
Last year, I basically watched these categories:

Texas A&M games
Games with BCS implications
Famous rivalry games
SEC games
Games where I get to see the longhorns lose

Which means you watched pretty much every game played. Because, you know, every game is important, even when your favorite team is playing East Southnorthern Valley State Polytechnic, the pride of the FCS Middle Southeast Mountain Tidal Conference.

For all of the really good games there are in college football, there sure are a lot of crummy ones.

I believe the GWJ folks here are pretty unanimously in favor of banning FBS-FCS match ups. I know I am.

Mike Slive, the SEC commish, just told his conference members to strengthen their out of conference schedules in anticipation of the coming playoffs.

Cal Football has been sending out tweets to pump up the fanbase... I think today's was good intentions but ends up being more funny/sad than anything else.

"93 Days until #BearRaid! 93 years ago #Cal defeated Ohio St. 28-0 to win the National Championship"

Ahh... nothing like that national championship run in 1920... I remember it like it was yesterday!

Man, that makes Texas A&M's 1939 championship seem super recent by comparison!

In fairness to my dear Alma Mater, that was the first of 4 straight National Championships from 1920-1923, and our last was 1937. Still, a little sad if we have to reach back nearly 100 years to find some glory.

KU had Gayle Sayers!

I'm guessing y'all are all dying to know that the nation's #1 rated, 5-star QB in the class of 2014 just committed to the Ags.

You guys do way better with 3* non rated qbs, why switch it up?