NCAA Football 2013-2014 discussion

Badferret wrote:

Meh, the SEC rules are a step in the right direction but as a Bama site indicates, the "process" is still in full effect:

So here's the final tally - if we sign 27 (and they all qualify academically), Bama will basically have to cut eight guys that don't have their degrees yet. I want to emphasize that there really isn't any wiggle room here. No amount of backcounting/sleight of hand helps with these final numbers. Unless some of the 16 unenrolled current commits are going to take a greyshirt (and not sign on national signing day), those slots will have to come from the current roster.

I see that as part of the problem I described with the NCAA's 25/85 limits that don't make sense even if no one redshirts, and not necessarily a Bama thing.

You don't have to sign 25 recruits every year. Those limits provide flexibility, so a team could sign 25 players, but its poor math skills or a willingness to screw players to sign 25 every year.

The average should be about 21 players a year. The 25 allows for a team recover from players leaving and getting hurt. The 85 limit should make it clear that the intent is not to horde poor players.

I think for every year you play, you get a year scholarship AFTER your playing time is over (or you can include summers if they take classes).

Signing day is tomorrow, we can all watch 17 year old kids pick a hat or lift a puppy.

Unlike last year, the Dawgs look like they might finish strong, I really like the energy that Pruitt has brought in.

Don't think I'll be able to watch ESPNU at work tomorrow. Bah.

I'm planning to use the WatchESPN app on my iPad and TexAgs' live NSD show on my computer.

Apparently we are going to be snowed in tomorrow. Then again, I downgraded to basic cable last weekend, so I will be all over the interwebs.

Is it just me, or does anyone else find the spectacle NSD has grown into to be profoundly unsettling? The only other televised event I can remember that involved this many adults this invested in the likes/dislikes and decisions of teenagers... well...

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Yes, it is completely ridiculous, yet I follow it every year.

Well, it's like they play a game before the season that greatly, sometimes overwhelmingly influences every game you play for years. Hard not to focus on it, you know?

That said, I know there are random folks following these recruits on Twitter and tweeting at them all the time, as well as flaming them when they pick the wrong school, flip, etc. That gets pretty creepy.

FWIW, ESPN is calling our class the #2 overall in the country.

I think the biggest news of the day is that Thor has committed to us.

Also we have D.J. Law from Florida who wants to sign with us, but his parents won't sign since they want him at Ole Miss.

Come on, man. Every Florida kid dreams of growing up and playing for Ole...

Nope, can't write it with a straight face.

We had a Louisiana kid whose mom forged his signature and faxed it elsewhere a few years ago. It all got straightened out, but that's damn good signing day drama!

Recruiting as a whole is very creepy. Signing Day itself is pretty cool though.

And Poona signed with Texas. Nice to know Charlie Strong doesn't have as much respect for Louisville who gave him his first coaching job as he did for Florida. When he left there he publicly stated he wouldn't poach any recruits. Hope he enjoys losing in Texas.

After the Great Traitor Tosh Lupoi's antics a few years back Signing Day just doesn't fill me with much of anything. For Cal, our highest rated signees are all at the skill positions, which is great for depth, but honestly our biggest needs are Defense and OL. We've addressed those through some decent JC signs, but we really need to focus on the high school ranks going forward.

I never go to Reddit, but apparently my favorite school is the top spot on Reddit right now, with this:

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Dawgs land their target 5 star DE and stole a little 4 start WR/KR specialist that we only offered on Monday. Damn good class for only 21 ships.

Fedaykin98 wrote:

I never go to Reddit, but apparently my favorite school is the top spot on Reddit right now, with this:

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Very class move. FSU did the same with a kid who quit playing during his senior year due to sustaining his 5th concussion.

And Law coming to Utah. Sounds like someone sent in a forged LOI to Ole Miss, but DJ was adamant about coming here.

Also not a typical composition for Utah with a bunch of Florida and Louisiana recruits. Whittingham wanted more speed and I guess fresh orange juice is the answer.

Utah 3
California 3
Florida 5
Louisiana 2
Nevada 1
Texas 1
Hawaii 1

Kansas had a good day, all things considered. They picked up four 4-star recruits, which is more than they have had since ESPN started tracking them in 2006. They also eased back on their reliance on JUCO and transfers. They had 15 high school kids, 8 JUCO guys, and 2 Division-1 transfers. Rivals has their class at 55th.

For having such a sh*t year in 2013 Tennessee landed a really, really good recruiting class. These kids are buying whatever Butch Jones is selling.

Gumbie wrote:

For having such a sh*t year in 2013 Tennessee landed a really, really good recruiting class. These kids are buying whatever Butch Jones is selling.

I counted 11 from in-state. I don't know how that compares to past classes, but it seems like a lot. Which is probably good for UT -- the state gets picked over pretty heavily because it sits right between the SEC and Big 10 recruiting bases, and UT hasn't traditionally been able to lock down its own state.

I'm excited to see you guys signed Emmanuel Moseley from Greensboro (where I'm from). He was the starting QB on the undefeated 4-A state champs (4-A is the second highest of the eight football playoffs classes, if that makes sense) and played DB. He's a tremendous athlete -- fast as hell -- and I hope he does well for y'all.

McFinn wrote:

I think the biggest news of the day is that Thor has committed to us.

Also we have D.J. Law from Florida who wants to sign with us, but his parents won't sign since they want him at Ole Miss.

In a bizzare twist, apparently Law signed with BOTH Utah and Ole Miss (and a juco)

Abu5217 wrote:
McFinn wrote:

I think the biggest news of the day is that Thor has committed to us.

Also we have D.J. Law from Florida who wants to sign with us, but his parents won't sign since they want him at Ole Miss.

In a bizzare twist, apparently Law signed with BOTH Utah and Ole Miss (and a juco)

OK, it was a good NSD story before, but this is really getting quality now.

Gumbie wrote:

For having such a sh*t year in 2013 Tennessee landed a really, really good recruiting class. These kids are buying whatever Butch Jones is selling.

Inside the Tennessee war room, via Grantland.

Of course the guy I talked up isn't even mentioned. :/

(Apparently he already enrolled. Guess he didn't need to actually fax his NLI.)

Enix wrote:
Gumbie wrote:

For having such a sh*t year in 2013 Tennessee landed a really, really good recruiting class. These kids are buying whatever Butch Jones is selling.

Inside the Tennessee war room, via Grantland.

Of course the guy I talked up isn't even mentioned. :/

(Apparently he already enrolled. Guess he didn't need to actually fax his NLI.)

Right, early enrollees don't sign anything. They apply for financial aid, which isn't binding, and then they just start attending classes.

Fedaykin98 wrote:
Enix wrote:
Gumbie wrote:

For having such a sh*t year in 2013 Tennessee landed a really, really good recruiting class. These kids are buying whatever Butch Jones is selling.

Inside the Tennessee war room, via Grantland.

Of course the guy I talked up isn't even mentioned. :/

(Apparently he already enrolled. Guess he didn't need to actually fax his NLI.)

Right, early enrollees don't sign anything. They apply for financial aid, which isn't binding, and then they just start attending classes.

I did not know that! (I didn't.) Thanks for the info.

I wonder how he's paying for it. His football scholarship hasn't kicked in yet, right?

UT advertises an out-of-state cost of attendance at $46K per year, so we're looking at $23K per semester assuming full-time status. I can't imagine UT is awash in financial aid for out-of-state students. I don't know his family's financial status or his academic prowess.

There's a story for someone who follows the money in college football.

I'm pretty sure the scholarship starts immediately. Otherwise it's hard to believe midterm enrolling would be as common as it has become.

So Brian Johnson might become the new Mississippi State OC. He was the Sugar Bowl QB winner who had a roller coaster coaching career here: QB coach > OC > co-OC with Erickson > QB coach. Dan Mullen recruited Johnson at Utah.

Also Ole Miss let DJ Law out of any obligation.

What is it with Mississippi and Utah right now? Will be interesting to see what happens to this team in the coming year(s).

Legion, I just saw that Michael Hodges has joined Tim D at Fresno State as a graduate assistant. That guy was a fantastic leader on defense when he and Von were seniors. Y'all are very fortunate to have him!

Fedaykin98 wrote:

Legion, I just saw that Michael Hodges has joined Tim D at Fresno State as a graduate assistant. That guy was a fantastic leader on defense when he and Von were seniors. Y'all are very fortunate to have him!

I'm so glad the school got DeRuyter signed to a new deal. He's now the second highest paid coach in the MWC behind Chris Petersen, which is right where he belongs. He earned it for sure!

I am hopeful he keeps building a good program there. Pat Hill did wonders putting Fresno on the national map, even if just as a blip now and then. Really would love to see DeRuyter build it to the next level.