NHL 2012-2013: Tentative deal early Sunday January 6

Farewell, Big Joe. He's the big one in back behind my wife and daughter and I, in case it wasn't obvious.

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Ruslan Salei survived by virtue of having taken a different flight. That's got to be hard.

Skrastins was an Avs player for a few seasons, and he was a favorite of mine. He held the NHL's Iron Man record at one point for longest playing streak, and it was a wonder, as the guy blocked pucks (in a few cases, more than the goaltender) and took hits like no one else. He looked a bit like Sabertooth from the X-Men and just seemed unbreakable out there. RIP.

This is a tragic summer for the NHL. Unbelievable.

I've read reports (via Google translate) straight from Russia that confirms Salei as on the plane and a casualty.

So bummed. So so bummed. Not just for Rusty and his family, but for all involved in any way.

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I've had Sportcenter on in the background most of the day and there has been no mention of this. All they're doing is yakking about Peyton Manning and Texas A&M.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

Ruslan Salei survived by virtue of having taken a different flight. That's got to be hard.

Skrastins was an Avs player for a few seasons, and he was a favorite of mine. He held the NHL's Iron Man record at one point for longest playing streak, and it was a wonder, as the guy blocked pucks (in a few cases, more than the goaltender) and took hits like no one else. He looked a bit like Sabertooth from the X-Men and just seemed unbreakable out there. RIP.

As Skeletonframes said, Salei was on the flight.

I was a huge fan of Skrastins as well. The guy was immortal on the ice. Wasn't effective offensively but was solid in his own end, a great team guy, and worked harder than anyone else on the ice. He was a hero in Latvia as well being as he was one of their few hockey stars.

Such a tragedy.

iaintgotnopants wrote:

I've had Sportcenter on in the background most of the day and there has been no mention of this. All they're doing is yakking about Peyton Manning and Texas A&M.

ESPN could care less about any sport they don't show on their network. Hated that channel when I lived in the US, their ignorance was astounding.

Vector wrote:

As Skeletonframes said, Salei was on the flight.

I had read otherwise and am really saddened to hear that he was onboard.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
Vector wrote:

As Skeletonframes said, Salei was on the flight.

I had read otherwise and am really saddened to hear that he was onboard. :(

I did as well but a team representative confirmed he was on the flight. I keep hoping to hear of other survivors but Galimov and the crew member are the only ones, it seems.

Vector wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:
Vector wrote:

As Skeletonframes said, Salei was on the flight.

I had read otherwise and am really saddened to hear that he was onboard. :(

I did as well but a team representative confirmed he was on the flight. I keep hoping to hear of other survivors but Galimov and the crew member are the only ones, it seems.

Unfortunately, from what I understand, the whole team was flying together today because it was the first game of the season and a sort of "celebration". Puts an awful exclamation point on the tragedy. oof.

Demitra's rebound hat trick goal on LA Kings hat night initially blocked by Colorado Avalanche's Skrastins.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/2Dr4XBE...

goman wrote:

Demitra's rebound hat trick goal on LA Kings hat night initially blocked by Colorado Avalanche's Skrastins.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/2Dr4XBE...

I remember that one. I hadn't realized that was Demitra.

It just doesn't stop.

Reports coming from Russian Twitter users are saying that the mother of Sergey Ostapchuk has died of a heart attack upon hearing the news.

Someone has put together a tribute video, also.

Oh my this is just amazingly horrible. Have a special place in my heart for Salei as he and some of the Avs were done w/ Practice and were in the stands during one of my adult hockey games yelling coach advice (albeit we liked to think it was coaching advice although I dont know how laughing hard was a part of it).

But all of these guys and some of the young players too. Tragic day

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Just Brutal. Unbelievable. I was speechless all day concerning this event. Hockey season starts on a brutal note this year...

This pre-season needs to just end for f*ck's sake.

Kinda hate to derail from the discussion of the Russian tragedy, but perhaps it's a good thing to have a bit of levity. =)

My wife and I slipped away from work to go watch a bunch of the Hurricanes doing informal skates this morning, and I shot a bunch of video. I've posted 2 of the best I got to YouTube...

First is Cam Ward, goofing around. They were originally going to cut the ice during practice before starting scrimmage, but decided not to for time reasons. He took all the extra snow that had built up around the goal and built a little dam along the goal line:

Second is Riley Nash apparently showing Jerome Samson some fighting techniques, but then Zac Dalpe comes in and starts messing with them:

Nice touch:

The Kontinental Hockey League, the clubs, and the players’ union have agreed the following: as a tribute to the Lokomotiv players, coaches and staff tragically killed in the Yaroslavl disaster, the opening game of each KHL season between the Gagarin Cup winners and runners-up will from now on be known as the game for the Lokomotiv Cup.

On Monday, the 12th of September, Salavat Yulaev and Atlant will meet in Ufa to compete for the first Lokomotiv Cup. The game between the two teams on the 7th of September was abandoned when news of the tragedy in Yaroslavl came through.

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On the NHL front, the new Winnipeg Jets unis look pretty classy.

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Alexander Galimov, the lone hockey playing survivor in the crash, has died from his burns. He is survived by his wife and daughter. The other survivor, Alexander Sizov a crew member, is no longer in danger and is expected to make a recovery.

*sigh*

Vector wrote:

The other survivor, Alexander Sizov a crew member, is no longer in danger and is expected to make a recovery.

And is going to need a lot of counseling for some serious survivor's guilt.

Drew Doughty still unsigned and training camp starts tomorrow. Kings fans including myself are becoming hostile towards him. He is being offered a very fair deal. 6.8M a year (same as Kopitar) for 7 years. He is still young (only 21) and will be in his prime when that contract is over.

ColdForged wrote:

Extremely tragic.

That it wasn't the Bruins' plane.

Spoiler:

J/K. This is horrible

goman wrote:

Drew Doughty still unsigned and training camp starts tomorrow. Kings fans including myself are becoming hostile towards him. He is being offered a very fair deal. 6.8M a year (same as Kopitar) for 7 years. He is still young (only 21) and will be in his prime when that contract is over.

Fair but Chara makes 8.5, Keith 8m, Pronger 7.6, Weber 7.5, Seabrook Bieksa and Wisniewski all at 7m.

Him and his agent obviously feel they can get a better deal.

edit: those are just the cap hits so a couple might be horribly front loaded. Didn't include Ernhoff obviously.

jowner wrote:
goman wrote:

Drew Doughty still unsigned and training camp starts tomorrow. Kings fans including myself are becoming hostile towards him. He is being offered a very fair deal. 6.8M a year (same as Kopitar) for 7 years. He is still young (only 21) and will be in his prime when that contract is over.

Fair but Chara makes 8.5, Keith 8m, Pronger 7.6, Weber 7.5, Seabrook Bieksa and Wisniewski all at 7m.

Him and his agent obviously feel they can get a better deal.

edit: those are just the cap hits so a couple might be horribly front loaded. Didn't include Ernhoff obviously.

Apparently the issue isn't the money, it's the term. The Kings want to lock Doughty up for ~ 7 years, but Doughty wants more like 4. Can't really blame a guy for not wanting to sign away 7 years, in my opinion. 4 years is still plenty of time, and if he's happy, he'll re-sign.

I will begrudge no man who wants to fight the trend toward contracts of unreasonable lengths.

The Leafs signed Schenn for 5 years, $3.6 million. I like this. That seems like either a good price for solid stay-at-home defender, or a great price for a kid with potential coming into his own in the league. Schenn led the league in hits last season, but that's kind of a wonky stat. More impressive was the way he played solid consistent hockey night in night out last year. He ate important minutes for the Leafs, I'm happy he's locked up for a good amount of time.

MaxShrek wrote:

Washington, Philly, Detroit, San Jose, St. Louis: does anybody believe anymore?

C-A-P-S.

This is not to say that I expect them to get past the first round of the playoffs, but I have been a fan for going on 15 years, and I can't see stopping that now.

nihilo wrote:
jowner wrote:
goman wrote:

Drew Doughty still unsigned and training camp starts tomorrow. Kings fans including myself are becoming hostile towards him. He is being offered a very fair deal. 6.8M a year (same as Kopitar) for 7 years. He is still young (only 21) and will be in his prime when that contract is over.

Fair but Chara makes 8.5, Keith 8m, Pronger 7.6, Weber 7.5, Seabrook Bieksa and Wisniewski all at 7m.

Him and his agent obviously feel they can get a better deal.

edit: those are just the cap hits so a couple might be horribly front loaded. Didn't include Ernhoff obviously.

Apparently the issue isn't the money, it's the term. The Kings want to lock Doughty up for ~ 7 years, but Doughty wants more like 4. Can't really blame a guy for not wanting to sign away 7 years, in my opinion. 4 years is still plenty of time, and if he's happy, he'll re-sign.

That seems very fair the way that wages are inflating. He obviously believes in his own ability so in 4 years he could be a top 3 undisputed defense men and ask for a ridiculous contract.

AnimeJ wrote:
MaxShrek wrote:

Washington, Philly, Detroit, San Jose, St. Louis: does anybody believe anymore?

C-A-P-S.

This is not to say that I expect them to get past the first round of the playoffs, but I have been a fan for going on 15 years, and I can't see stopping that now.

I remember the good old days. 1988. Devils-Caps in playoffs. The infamous 10-4 game.