This is now about Ben's brother Nate (Newtown, CT)

Man.

Prayers go out to all.

reasonstodrink++;

This day is starting to just dig its claws inside of my skin deeper and deeper.

I'm so sorry, lostlobster.

ccesarano wrote:

reasonstodrink++;

The fact 18 families and countless others have pretty much had their holiday ruined is reason enough for me not to have a drink tonight. Just. Can't.

EDIT: That's not aimed at you, but way too somber a night to really do anything like that myself.

I'm so sorry everyone.

LostLobster, please let us know if there's a relief fund or any other way to help out.

S0LIDARITY wrote:

LostLobster, please let us know if there's a relief fund or any other way to help out.

I'll gladly chip in on this.

LostLobster... just... no words. Nothing that doesn't feel utterly impotent in conveying true feelings.

My heart also goes out to the first responders and the forensics team that has to deal with this tragedy. Even having seen my share of natural disasters and death I cannot even begin to comprehend the haunting images they will have burned into their minds because of this one man's evil.

shoptroll wrote:
S0LIDARITY wrote:

LostLobster, please let us know if there's a relief fund or any other way to help out.

I'll gladly chip in on this.

I will too. My heart is grieving for them.

LostLobster, my family's thoughts and prayers go out to you, your friend's family, and all families impacted by this tragedy.

I found myself drifting off in thought throughout today, wondering what I would do or how I would feel if this was one of my children's schools. My brain basically shorts out when I go there. It is unimaginable. If a fund is established, please do let us know in this thread.

LightBender wrote:

My heart also goes out to the first responders and the forensics team that has to deal with this tragedy. Even having seen my share of natural disasters and death I cannot even begin to comprehend the haunting images they will have burned into their minds because of this one man's evil.

For an incident like this they will certainly be bringing in grief counselors for the EMS, police squads, and the school community. The poor kids who were there though, I really hope the parents keep a good eye on them in the following weeks.

All I can offer from here are my condolences, knowing that they aren't nearly enough.

I'm so sorry lobster. My heart goes out to your friend and everyone else affected. I'll chip in if there's anything we can do.

F*ck. I have everything running through my head, and nothing to say.

This is killing me.
When I first heard about the shooting, I thought it couldn't get any worse.
Then I learned it was an elementary school and nearly lost it.

I don't want to think about this and I can't stop.
I think of the media and how video games will be blamed, how Today is not the Day to Talk About Gun Control and I feel like lashing out in the most visceral way.

There's some good articles in the New Yorker that I won't post because I don't want to debate about gun control. The first rebuttal I read will probablyforce Certis to fire me from forums from all the poisonn illI'll spew.

I'll come back in a few days to post again.

Lobster, my heart goes out to you and your friend.

Thank you, everyone for the kind words. I feel uncomforable with all the sympathy I and my family are getting, when it's my friends who have been devastated. But thank you. We're just crushingly sad for them right now, feeling powerless. I spoke with Ben's dad last night, and he sounded stunned, empty. He wanted everyone to know that they have a lot of family with them, the town is being very supportive, and the police are being very attentive and professional.

If there's a memorial fund of some kind, I'll let you know. Thanks again. GwJ is a really special community of people.

So sorry lobster. I feel so helpless and willing to help at the same time.

As a New Yorker, I can't remember a worse story since 9/11. In some ways this is even worse due the lack of ability to lash out and the attack occurring in such an innocent setting against children. This is actually going to be the first story in a long time I willingly avoid as much as possible.

I am late to the thread, I just didn't have much time to check the site yesterday. I'd just like to add my sympathies to everyone lostlobster. I wish I could say something more useful but...there are no words.

My thoughts go out to you and your friends, lostlobster. I wish there were better, more meaningful, more comforting words for the lot of you.

I didn't want to scroll. I didn't.

I am so f*cking sorry Lobster.

McIrishJihad wrote:

I has a sad

Not sure about others, but at least on my FB feed, looks like I've got a lot of friends who think stricter gun control would prevent this from happening. Not to stray too far into P&C, but my take has always been better mental healthcare is what really prevents acts such as this.

Edited to remove P&C-related stuff, not the place for it.

lostlobster wrote:

Thank you, everyone for the kind words. I feel uncomforable with all the sympathy I and my family are getting, when it's my friends who have been devastated. But thank you. We're just crushingly sad for them right now, feeling powerless. I spoke with Ben's dad last night, and he sounded stunned, empty. He wanted everyone to know that they have a lot of family with them, the town is being very supportive, and the police are being very attentive and professional.

If there's a memorial fund of some kind, I'll let you know. Thanks again. GwJ is a really special community of people.

Lostlobster, my heart breaks for you and your friends and my prayers go out to you all.

Lostlobster, so sorry to hear this. Our thoughts are with you and your friends' family.

God bless Benjamin. May his parents find consolation.

United Way, with a local bank, is accepting donations to help pay for support services.

Sandy Hook School Support Fund
c/o Newtown Savings Bank
39 Main Street, Newtown CT 06470

Hard to believe when we sat down to watch the Hobbit this was happening.

I understand how condolences directed to you for your friends' devastating loss can make you feel uncomfortable. I'm heartbroken over this.

The only thing worse that gunning down innocent children, or a close second.

Horrible, I weep for the human race.

Don't know where to begin.

I'm sorry. So very sorry for your friends loss.

Holy crap, Kush. If I see someone from the WBC when I'm at Ben's memorial, I might just lose my sh*t.

lostlobster wrote:

Holy crap, Kush. If I see someone from the WBC when I'm at Ben's memorial, I might just lose my sh*t.

You'll get sued and they'll get more money to finance their madness. Best to just avoid.

FYI there's a biker gang that will come to surround the memorial keep the WBC out, and rev their engines to drown out the WBC shouting.

Now, revving motorcycles at a memorial is not ideal, but the sound of motorcycle engines doesn't contain hateful words for the most innocent people.

There may be similar volunteer groups. If it happened here and I wasn't affected in a way that I had to be part of the memorial, I would be doing that.

Edit.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patri...

Looks like its for veterans and only founded by motorcyclists. They attend by invitation of the family. I would imagine they would attend this, even though its not a military service.