2013 Oscars Catch-All

Also saw Zero Dark Thirty. Good. Goooooood.

Aaron D. wrote:

Just walked out of Zero Dark Thirty.

Holy crap that movie was god-damned incredible.

Words can't express.

Just walked out of it too. I'm mixed on it. Mixed compared to other movies. It's a great movie, but I have more criticisms about it, strangely, than Django Unchained and many other movies. Somewhere around my 4th favorite movie of the year.

Just got back from the family Oscar party. I'm happy to see Jennifer Lawrence and Daniel Day Lewis both get Oscars. There were a couple of movies I wasn't sure about but now want to see after the Oscar montages - Django Unchained and Les Mis.

Can't really comment on Argo winning as I haven't seen that film, but it was on my list. Honestly, I think my Netflx queue is going to be full almost until the start of the summer blockbluster season.

Michelle Obama looked great but I wasn't sure about the first lady presenting best picture. It seemed a bit gimmicky.

jdzappa wrote:

Can't really comment on Argo winning as I haven't seen that film, but it was on my list.

I'll comment, even though I haven't seen it. I got increasingly annoyed with the "Redemption of Affleck" narrative that seemed to play no small part in it's victory:

1-At the nadir of Affleck's career, he was dating J-Lo, and starring in movies like "Reindeer Games," where he was paid to graphically simulate sex with a naked Charlize Theron. Oh man! The horror!

2-I know hyperbole and what not, but someone said he was on track to become "one of the most respected film makers of his generation." Dude. The Town was fun enough until the dumbass ending, but it was a far cry from transcendent genius.

I just noticed that this was over with. The only thing I really cared about was animated short and Paperman won, so I'm happy. Since I finally manged to see Django this weekend, I'm pleasantly surprised to see that it won best screenplay. It was a fantastic movie. Of course Christopher Waltz deserved the actor award. I'm just happy to see the writing get its just due. I'm disappointed that Brave won over Wreck it Ralph, but I'm not surprised. They're both pretty good.

SpacePPoliceman wrote:
jdzappa wrote:

Can't really comment on Argo winning as I haven't seen that film, but it was on my list.

I'll comment, even though I haven't seen it. I got increasingly annoyed with the "Redemption of Affleck" narrative that seemed to play no small part in it's victory:

I think it was a huge part of the victory. People like stories. Meta-stories, I mean. Hollywood wants their lives to be Hollywood-like. I think the Affleck redemption story is not only overplayed, but it robbed worthier movies. I think Django Unchained, Zero Dark Thirty an a couple other movies were better. And more memorable.

It was also a boring show. Half of the "jokes" were Seth McFarland pre-backpedalling from hosting the show. Perhaps they should just clone a younger Billy Crystal so they can get another 30 years of mediocre pablum and butt-kissing.

Also, Nintendo of America tweeted this last night. I agree.

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Django Unchained was lucky enough to be a nominee to begin with, but the fact that Christoph Waltz, as talented as he is, got Best Supporting Actor over Samuel L. Jackson is proof enough that this thing is being run by old white men (which is funny considering how "liberal" Hollywood is. A superficial, stupid, poorly thought out liberal whose opinions on politics shouldn't be taken seriously).

In any case, I didn't watch and only observed via Tweets. All I caught was someone sang about boobs, people weren't amused by Seth MacFarlane, I only recognized the name Jennifer Hudson because of my job, and Argo won.

But hearing that Wreck-It-Ralph, which got 86% on Rotten Tomatoes, lost to Brave, which got 78% and had NOTHING but "Man, this was bad for a Pixar movie" while Wreck-It-Ralph got tons of praise even by people who don't know video games (my parents liked it, which means it has mainstream appeal because they know CRAP about games), that's just crap. But also not surprising. Again, old white men voting, and they probably look at video games as this ridiculous, childish rival medium.

I thought Brave and Wreck It Ralph were both excellent, and there's no shame in either losing to the other.

Tanglebones wrote:

I thought Brave and Wreck It Ralph were both excellent, and there's no shame in either losing to the other.

My bias demands there be shame!

jdzappa wrote:

Just got back from the family Oscar party. I'm happy to see Jennifer Lawrence and Daniel Day Lewis both get Oscars. There were a couple of movies I wasn't sure about but now want to see after the Oscar montages - Django Unchained and Les Mis.

Can't really comment on Argo winning as I haven't seen that film, but it was on my list. Honestly, I think my Netflx queue is going to be full almost until the start of the summer blockbluster season.

Michelle Obama looked great but I wasn't sure about the first lady presenting best picture. It seemed a bit gimmicky.

I'm gonna upgrade that to extremely gimmicky.

Not a fan of Lewis winning. As I really feel he just over acts everything to a ridiculous degree.

DSGamer wrote:

I think Django Unchained, Zero Dark Thirty an a couple other movies were better.

A thousand times Yes.

ccesarano wrote:

people weren't amused by Seth MacFarlane,

In the...half? quarter? third? whatever that I saw, it was much like watching Family Guy--the funniest part is how little I laughed, and the longer I went, the funnier that got. It's amazing how stone-faced I remain in the face of what I imagine is his A material (which often boils down to "Hey, guys, Jews, amirite? Chicks, amirite?").

I liked Waltz more in Django than Jackson.

I am glad Argo won. My wife thinks Beast of the Southern Wild was the best movie of the year but Argo was a close second.

Lincoln deserved nothing it was so piss poor. To me it was mediocre even as a TV movie. It may have been a hair better than your typical Lifetime schlock. I love Daniel Day Lewis and his acceptance speech was very funny, but I expected him to be selling Mint Milanos with that accent and performance. Those little clips they that showcase the nominees told me that every other nominee was far better than DDL this year.

I enjoyed Zero Dark Thirty but I think other than the circumstances of the film, it was nothing remarkable. It was not poorly paced but very drawn out like everything in Hurt Locker. There were so many extended shots of Jessica Chastain looking out a window or into her palm. That isn't quality directing or acting.

Waltz deserved the Oscar but I do think it a crime that Samuel L Jackson was not nominated. Maybe it had to do with a certain amount of screen time required, I don't know.

Blind_Evil wrote:

I liked Waltz more in Django than Jackson.

Maybe. I think I was just startled Samuel L. Jackson can play something aside from his role from Pulp Fiction again and again and again, even with the gratuitous "Mother f*ckers" thrown in.

Damn. More I think of it, more I want that movie on Blu-Ray today.

Both performances were great, but I think that Jackson's as well as DiCaprio's role in the plot were secondary to the primary role that Waltz played. With that in mind, you have to go with Waltz. If you were to compare performances in individual scenes, you can rank Jackson or DiCaprio ahead of Waltz. That being said, Waltz' role on the plot is minimized at that point. The plot tension is mostly between Foxx and DiCaprio/Jackson. Also, Jackson's character is sort of a parody of himself which, while perfect for the movie, could arguably reduce the performance's Oscar worthiness.

Man, I can't wait to watch the movie again sometime.

In 10 years people will remember Django Unchained. Lincoln and Argo will be forgotten.

I also had issues with Zero Dark Thirty. I agree with those that say it has a fascistic perspective. I don't like what the movie was selling. But it was compelling, well made and I think in 20 years it will be one of the best pieces of art to show the single-minded, myopic post-9/11 America. That, to me, makes it a better movie than Argo and a more important film.

Re: Jackson vs. Waltz I would have preferred Jackson. That was a brave performance. Usually I hate the term "brave" when it comes to acting, but to take on that character and what he represents historically was very brave.

DSGamer wrote:

In 10 years people will remember Django Unchained. Lincoln and Argo will be forgotten.

Sums up at least half of the Best Picture winners, right?

The Master is better than all the rest. Jennifer Lawrence is peaking too early.

garion333 wrote:
DSGamer wrote:

In 10 years people will remember Django Unchained. Lincoln and Argo will be forgotten.

Sums up at least half of the Best Picture winners, right?

Yeah. That's a dilemma as a fan. You're bound to be let down.

garion333 wrote:

The Master is better than all the rest. Jennifer Lawrence is peaking too early.

I get the same feeling. Anne Hathaway was amazing in Rachel Getting Married, but I'm not sure an Oscar win that early would have done her any favors long term. The best actor category is littered with people who got burned out or overexposed too early. Or one hit wonders.

Zero Dark Thirty should of won but it wasn't the safe yay for Ben story that Hollywood also got to pat themselves on the back as if they rescued the hostages. Zero dark really sucked me in and unnerved me at times. Also Chastain just sold it all so well.

Not to say Argo was an awful movie but it never really sucked me in the way Zero Dark did.

Django was good but I dunno. Just felt like Inglorious 2.0 for me. Replace Nazis with slave owners and Jews with African slaves. Boom! You have a team to hate and a team to root for. Insert violence and comedy and we have entertainment! Not to say I didn't enjoy the movie just I can't take that angle of Tarantino's work seriously for award consideration. Pulp Fiction managed to ride that line for me where it was still humorous but more serious/real.

edit: Also means I think Chastain should of probably won for Best Actress. It was honestly a 1 person movie. Considering how much attention this movie got without even a large supporting role or god forbid a leading man was impressive.

Django was a complete film, while IB was a few ideas stitched together.

I thought ZDT was a mediocre film in that it stitched together a large period of time that relied on your own history too often. Would've been better as a series.

I thought zero dark was a horrible movie. Didn't enjoy the acting, story, or anything really. Well the set design was good.

Ang Lee rocks.

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kuddles wrote:

Ang Lee rocks.

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That's heaven right there. Oscar in one hand, In N Out burger in the other. It just doesn't get any better than that.

Almost cried during les miserables and was expecting not to like it at all.

Baron Of Hell wrote:

Almost cried during les miserables and was expecting not to like it at all.

Same. The crying part. I was expecting to like it, but it surprised me still.