The Federal Prop. 8 Trial / Gay Marriage Catch-All

LarryC wrote:

As a further example (getting afield here), one of my friends is very active as a Catholic AND he's very, very openly gay. He makes no secret whatsoever of his sexual proclivities and preferences. But he also professes not to have sex. Apparently, that's perfectly A-OK here. Not sure how that would fly elsewhere.

Gay and celibate is completely okay with the Catholic Church around me. Evidently being gay isn't a sin, but acting on those urges and having sex with anyone other than your opposite cis gendered spouse is where the sinning starts...

My uncle, a gay former priest, was once lauded by a super-Catholic in-law because, "while Charlie is gay, at least he doesn't act on it." To which he replied, "don't mistake virtue for lack of opportunity."

He is one of my favorite family members:)

Actually, having sex even with your cis-gendered partner is a sin if you're not married, and it's still a sin if you're using certain kinds of gear (condom). Lots of sin to go around. Masturbation, too.

I meant what I had said earlier. If your Catholic folks were prepared to throw you out for sinning related to sexual actvity, they should've done that when you started masturbating.

Rand Paul thinks same-sex couples should just keep their relationships in their houses so that pesky details about their loved ones "...wouldn’t have to be a part of the workplace."

He also said that government anti-discrimination laws for gays aren't needed because "if you are gay, there are plenty of places that will hire you."

OG_slinger wrote:

Rand Paul thinks same-sex couples should just keep their relationships in their houses so that pesky details about their loved ones "...wouldn’t have to be a part of the workplace."

He also said that government anti-discrimination laws for gays aren't needed because "if you are gay, there are plenty of places that will hire you."

Oh, sure. We shouldn't have the pesky details of our lives out there for straight people to see! I mean, what would their kids think? I mean, they have kids, since they have photos of them all over their desks. Which, if you think about it, means that they're showing evidence that they had sex at some point.

And what about their spouse? I mean, it's pretty obvious they have one, since there are photos all over the place of them, too. I mean, some of these straight folks even put those photos on their computer desktops, for crying out loud!

Gosh, straight people, stop shoving your sexuality in my face!

This seems like it belongs here even though it is a video.

Rubb Ed wrote:

Gosh, straight people, stop shoving your sexuality in my face!

I can't help it. I'm a sexual being.

Quintin_Stone wrote:
Rubb Ed wrote:

Gosh, straight people, stop shoving your sexuality in my face!

I can't help it. I'm a sexual being.

Yes, but to be fair, you reproduce through asexual cell division.

Untrue! It's actually a form of sporogenesis.

It's my meiosis that brings all the girls to the yard.

Rubb Ed wrote:

Gosh, straight people, stop shoving your sexuality in my face!

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trichy wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:
Rubb Ed wrote:

Gosh, straight people, stop shoving your sexuality in my face!

I can't help it. I'm a sexual being.

Yes, but to be fair, you reproduce through asexual cell division.

Wait; he's reproduced?!?!?

Chumpy_McChump wrote:
trichy wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:
Rubb Ed wrote:

Gosh, straight people, stop shoving your sexuality in my face!

I can't help it. I'm a sexual being.

Yes, but to be fair, you reproduce through asexual cell division.

Wait; he's reproduced?!?!?

We are all but Quintin's spores.

kaostheory wrote:

We are all butt Quintin's spores.

FTFY

Mormonism doesn't have a Hell, it has an Outer Darkness, and you need to do something worse than become inactive to get there. Something like being gay does the trick, though.

SpacePPoliceman wrote:

Mormonism doesn't have a Hell, it has an Outer Darkness, and you need to do something worse than become inactive to get there. Something like being gay does the trick, though.

It's super-effective!

Jonman wrote:
SpacePPoliceman wrote:

Mormonism doesn't have a Hell, it has an Outer Darkness, and you need to do something worse than become inactive to get there. Something like being gay does the trick, though.

It's super-effective! Thanks for asking!

SpacePPoliceman wrote:

Mormonism doesn't have a Hell, it has an Outer Darkness, and you need to do something worse than become inactive to get there. Something like being gay does the trick, though.

First part is true there is no hell per se, in Mormonism, but being gay would not qualify you for Outer Darkness. That takes rebelling against a "sure knowledge" of God, like Cain, and maybe Judas. Very few people in the history of mankind would ever be in danger of Outer Darkness.

I was told by a Bishop that homosexuality was rebelling against the sure knowledge of God, however that is an issue with the democratized Bishopric. I was also told once that after the Rapture, Earth would get sucked down a fiery wormhole back to Kolob, and I ain't never read no Pearl of Great Price, but I'm pretty sure that isn't actually in there.

The first part about homosexuality is flat out doctrinely wrong! Considered a grave sin yes, rebelling against the sure knowledge of God and qualifying you for outer darkness? Big fat NOPE!

The part about Kolab is idle speculation, sounds cool and all, but tentatively connected to doctrine at best. We really don't know much about what will happen after the rapture, and what has been canonically said is pretty vague, and symbolic.

While opponents of gay marriage, the LDS church says that's no reason to not do your job.

“Office holders remain free to draw upon their personal beliefs and motivations and advocate their positions in the public square,” Elder Oaks said. “But when acting as public officials, they are not free to apply personal convictions — religious or other — in place of the defined responsibilities of their public offices. All government officers should exercise their civil authority according to the principles and within the limits of civil government.”

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mor...

That's unsurprising to me. Mormons have actually been the victims of some rather egregious mixes of church and state in their short history, and I don't think there's another religion in the States as vocally and openly supportive of separation of church and state.

NSMike wrote:

That's unsurprising to me. Mormons have actually been the victims of some rather egregious mixes of church and state in their short history, and I don't think there's another religion in the States as vocally and openly supportive of separation of church and state.

I have talked with numerous Mormons who have done their two year mission trip and EVERY one of them says that the most hostile treatment they have ever received has been at the hands of fervent Christian believers.

Paleocon wrote:
NSMike wrote:

That's unsurprising to me. Mormons have actually been the victims of some rather egregious mixes of church and state in their short history, and I don't think there's another religion in the States as vocally and openly supportive of separation of church and state.

I have talked with numerous Mormons who have done their two year mission trip and EVERY one of them says that the most hostile treatment they have ever received has been at the hands of fervent Christian believers.

From what I've read, it's because those fervent Christian believers are the most likely to be converted to Mormonism--and the leaders of those fervent Christian congregations know it.

Kentucky governor issues executive order to remove clerk's name from marriage license. Should stop a clerk in the future from grinding the process to a halt.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ken...

Trophy Husband wrote:

Kentucky governor issues executive order to remove clerk's name from marriage license. Should stop a clerk in the future from grinding the process to a halt.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ken...

Suspect I know what next year's campaign commercials will focus on when they're not fellating the coal industry.

Demosthenes wrote:
Trophy Husband wrote:

Kentucky governor issues executive order to remove clerk's name from marriage license. Should stop a clerk in the future from grinding the process to a halt.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ken...

Suspect I know what next year's campaign commercials will focus on when they're not fellating the coal industry.

Free access to tooth whitening treatments?