Geek Confessions & Blasphemies

ccesarano wrote:
C'mon guys, it's all about Christopher Walken.

So dreamy.

Cumberbatch, man. It's all about the Cumberbatch.

The artwork of a comic is equally important (if not more so) than the story to me. If I don't like the look of the panels, I'd rather just read a book and paint my own word pictures in my head.

To that end... I find Sandman unapproachable because of its art and I can't get more than a few pages in before I quit. Also, I think Batman: Hush is one of the best Batman books.

PaladinTom wrote:
The artwork of a comic is equally important (if not more so) than the story to me. If I don't like the look of the panels, I'd rather just read a book and paint my own word pictures in my head.

To that end... I find Sandman unapproachable because of its art and I can't get more than a few pages in before I quit.

Do not comprehend.

If some people are judgemental enough to hate Kill Bill for a few brief instances of wire fighting, then I'm going to hate this video for wire dancing.

I love Kill Bill because it's a mashup and superviolent fun, while I hate Crouching Tiger because it's nothing but The Phantom Menace with worse fighting and a different language.

Keithustus wrote:

If some people are judgemental enough to hate Kill Bill for a few brief instances of wire fighting, then I'm going to hate this video for wire dancing.

I love Kill Bill because it's a mashup and superviolent fun, while I hate Crouching Tiger because it's nothing but The Phantom Menace with worse fighting and a different language.

I dislike Kill Bill because "superviolent" bores me.

wordsmythe wrote:
Keithustus wrote:

If some people are judgemental enough to hate Kill Bill for a few brief instances of wire fighting, then I'm going to hate this video for wire dancing.

I love Kill Bill because it's a mashup and superviolent fun, while I hate Crouching Tiger because it's nothing but The Phantom Menace with worse fighting and a different language.

I dislike Kill Bill because "superviolent" bores me.

So you're more of an ultraviolence type?

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Tanglebones wrote:
PaladinTom wrote:
The artwork of a comic is equally important (if not more so) than the story to me. If I don't like the look of the panels, I'd rather just read a book and paint my own word pictures in my head.

To that end... I find Sandman unapproachable because of its art and I can't get more than a few pages in before I quit.

Do not comprehend.


I'm with PaladinTom on that one. I love most of Gaiman's work, and I enjoyed the writing in the first two Sandman books. Unfortunately, I find the art so unpleasant that I can't be bothered to read the rest.

kazooka wrote:
wordsmythe wrote:
Keithustus wrote:

If some people are judgemental enough to hate Kill Bill for a few brief instances of wire fighting, then I'm going to hate this video for wire dancing.

I love Kill Bill because it's a mashup and superviolent fun, while I hate Crouching Tiger because it's nothing but The Phantom Menace with worse fighting and a different language.

I dislike Kill Bill because "superviolent" bores me.

So you're more of an ultraviolence type?

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PaladinTom wrote:
To that end... I find Sandman unapproachable because of its art and I can't get more than a few pages in before I quit.

Sam Kieth bowed out of doing the art after the first few books because he felt like Jimmy Hendrix trying to be part of the Beatles. Keep going, it's worth it!

Lots of different artists throughout the Sandman series. Power through, it'll change soon anyway.

I do not like Felicia Day.

RolandofGilead wrote:
I do not like Felicia Day.

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I'm not that fond of Felicia Day's work, though I'm sure she's a lovely person and would be quite charming if I met her in a social situation.

RolandofGilead wrote:
I do not like Felicia Day.

Heretic!

Honestly, though, I think she's great, even if I don't care about The Guild, etc.

It's not like she's as bad as Zachary Levi.

trueheart78 wrote:
It's not like she's as bad as Zachary Levi.

That ties into one for me, though it was probably mentioned elsewhere and I'm too lazy to go check. I gave Chuck multiple chances but I don't find it remotely funny.

RolandofGilead wrote:
I do not like Felicia Day.

bnpederson wrote:
I'm not that fond of Felicia Day's work, though I'm sure she's a lovely person and would be quite charming if I met her in a social situation.

You ought to listen to the GWJ interview with her.

Episode somewhere around 100. If google works, I'll edit this and give the link.

edit: 94! http://www.gamerswithjobs.com/node/4...

Keithustus wrote:
RolandofGilead wrote:
I do not like Felicia Day.

bnpederson wrote:
I'm not that fond of Felicia Day's work, though I'm sure she's a lovely person and would be quite charming if I met her in a social situation.

You ought to listen to the GWJ interview with her.

Episode somewhere around 100. If google works, I'll edit this and give the link.

edit: 94! http://www.gamerswithjobs.com/node/4...

Hrm, that was in 2008 so I probably have listened to it; I was listening to the podcast fairly regularly back then.

Not quite clear on how that'll change my opinion regarding her work though. I'm just not a fan of her humor, at least from what I've seen of The Guild and a few other web shorts I can't recall the names of.

Because that and any interview she's done show that she's got way more brain and sophistication than you'll see from interviews with all the little boring starlets that Hollywood favors. Whatever you don't don't watch an interview of Kim Cattrall. Vapid!

No amount of outside-knowledge regarding a creator's intelligence, sophistication, political views, religious practices, personal foibles or other traits is going to make me change my opinion on a that person's art though. I feel Ender's Game is a brilliant book regardless of how much of an ass Orson Scott Card is and I don't like the humor of The Guild regardless of how charming Felicia Day is.

Felicia Day was awesome in Dollhouse. She was awesome as a blind patient on House. She was fun and fabulous when on Supernatural. I'd love to see her get a shot on a network show.

Yeah, not really a fan of Felicia Day either.

That said, I'm not one of those people who seem uppity about her success, either. The industry is going to put someone on a pedestal just because she's an attractive girl into nerdy stuff no matter what. At least it's someone who is genuine about those interests and has actually worked to get there.

I'm apathetic to the whole Felicia Day thing as well. I'm not into The Guild, and I think she did good jobs acting in all the stuff she has been in, but I don't really fawn all over celebrities outside of their job. It's cool to know some of them have cool personalities, and thus it's cool to know Felicia Day is nice and a genuine geek with a delightful personality (one highlight story is Tycho from Penny Arcade making a post one time claiming he'd like to "groom her", and the next time they saw each other she brought a brush and turned so that he could do just that).

But at the same time, I still like Tom Cruise as an actor even if I think Scientology is crazy stuff. Why? Because he's f*cking brilliant at his job.

bnpederson wrote:
No amount of outside-knowledge regarding a creator's intelligence, sophistication, political views, religious practices, personal foibles or other traits is going to make me change my opinion on a that person's art though. I feel Ender's Game is a brilliant book regardless of how much of an ass Orson Scott Card is and I don't like the humor of The Guild regardless of how charming Felicia Day is.

In addition, I typically don't care about this stuff either. However, I hate it when a creator brow-beats me with their beliefs. Going back to Joss Whedon because he's such an easy target, he makes his hatred for authority figures, in particular religious ones, so obvious that it gets annoying. I'd like to hope that I didn't find the episode of Firefly where River is about to be burnt as a witch annoying not because I happen to be Christian, but because it was such a Saturday morning cartoon moment. "What's that Lassie? Christians are being superstitious? And the leader of the town is a hypocrite? Quick! Fetch Joss Whedon to save us from the dangers of faith!"

If you have something smart to say, then say it intelligently. Joss Whedon's method is like a smart ass from 4chan. "HA! HA! Look at how smart I am everyone! I'm a feminist!"

gore wrote:
I saw one episode of Big Bang Theory and really hated it

Same page as you here. I find the show un-intelligent and pandering. In my opinion, it's no better than swill like two and a half men. I tried to watch a couple of episodes and I feel they are simply taking a bad comedy show and adding geek culture references to it. I'd rather eat nails than watch another .00000000001 seconds of that travesty.

Tim

infromsea wrote:
In my opinion, it's no better than swill like two and a half men.

Same creator and lead writer, so that would be why.

I am amazed at the hatred for BBT. People are so protective of their geekdom and get their Spiderman underoos in a twist when it's trod on. I wonder if barflies got angry when Cheers was on? Where's the lawyer rage at The Good Wife? The criminal investigator fury at all the CSI shows? When will the community college crowd rise up and shake their fists at Community?

They were playing Ticket to Ride at the beginning of the show last week. HOW DARE THEY! I BET THEY WEREN'T EVEN USING THE 1910 EXPANSION! POSEURS!!!!!

Anyway. BBT makes me laugh, and they wear their geekdom lovingly and with respect, imho.

And people do realize that the lead writer only writes a couple of scripts a year for the show, right?

lostlobster wrote:
I am amazed at the hatred for BBT. People are so protective of their geekdom and get their Spiderman underoos in a twist when it's trod on. I wonder if barflies got angry when Cheers was on? Where's the lawyer rage at The Good Wife? The criminal investigator fury at all the CSI shows? When will the community college crowd rise up and shake their fists at Community?

Personally, I just don't think it's funny.

Well that, and treating the female lead like a dog to be trained seemed really offensive and sexist to me. I've only seen one episode, so I may be missing some context, but watching that in a vacuum left me with no desire to see any more.

I always thought Big Bang Theory was the geek equivalent of a minstrel show.

Well that, and treating the female lead like a dog to be trained seemed really offensive to me. I've only seen one episode, so I may be missing some context, but watching that in a vacuum made me seriously uncomfortable and left me with no desire to see any more.

Whereas I thought that was kind of funny. Context does help in this scenario as Sheldon is always trying to use proven scientific methods when it comes to issues like this. Is it disrespectful? Yar. Is it the weirdest thing Sheldon's ever done? Hardly.

He also gives her a hug (which had never happened before up to that point) when she gets him a napkin signed by Leonard Neimoy that he wiped his mouth with which leads to the exclamation "I posses the DNA of Leonard Neimoy?!" and goes into how all he needs is a healthy ovum to create his own Spock.

lostlobster wrote:
And people do realize that the lead writer only writes a couple of scripts a year for the show, right?

Most TV comedies are written very collaboratively, effectively by committee rather than individuals doing individual episodes, and the staff takes turns being credited.

SpacePPoliceman wrote:
lostlobster wrote:
And people do realize that the lead writer only writes a couple of scripts a year for the show, right?

Most TV comedies are written very collaboratively, effectively by committee rather than individuals doing individual episodes, and the staff takes turns being credited.

I stand/sit corrected.

And my over-the-top response was to the over-the-top vitriol that people have toward the show. Perfectly understandable to not find it funny.

The "training of Penny" episode is, as pointed out, just another use of Sheldon as someone who doesn't understand people as human beings. He's constantly learning/failing to learn how to interact with people and their emotions. One of the best/funniest examples of this being:

For my money, that's classic sit-com tv. If you know the characters and understand the context, of course. But I'd put that right up there as one of my all-time favorite moments on a sit-com.

Anyway. Enough from me. I'm not that huge fan of the show as all this suggests. I enjoy it and watch regularly, but that's about it.