Dark Souls Catch-All

Hobear wrote:

That Black Knight Halberd is a speed run favorite so it would be a fun one to try and do a build off of.

Have you used it before? It might be the strongest weapon in the game, especially considering how early you can get it. If you want to cruise, use it.

Dyni wrote:
Hobear wrote:

That Black Knight Halberd is a speed run favorite so it would be a fun one to try and do a build off of.

Have you used it before? It might be the strongest weapon in the game, especially considering how early you can get it. If you want to cruise, use it.

Now I need to up my Strength to use it.

Hobear wrote:

That Black Knight Halberd is a speed run favorite so it would be a fun one to try and do a build off of. Halberd and spears have a lot of move sets so they make for interesting builds. All of this and I still need a pyro and magic build run One of you is bananas about an archery build I think. Those confound me.

So now I have to try this. Not like it's the first time I'm hearing about it.. just tickled me I guess. Dammit.

So I've taken a break for a couple of days...but I kinda feel like I wanna play more Dark Souls...

What are the benefits of NG+ over starting a different character?

Everything is harder, and the bragging rights are bigger.

Stevintendo wrote:

So I've taken a break for a couple of days...but I kinda feel like I wanna play more Dark Souls...

What are the benefits of NG+ over starting a different character?

All of the enemies scale up, but you're already close to your maximum power, so the game becomes quite a bit more difficult. There are no new items or abilities to find.

I've done a few NG+ runs, but I generally prefer to start a new character and play with a new build. I think you'll be surprised at how quickly you will progress compared to your first run.

Dyni wrote:
Stevintendo wrote:

So I've taken a break for a couple of days...but I kinda feel like I wanna play more Dark Souls...

What are the benefits of NG+ over starting a different character?

All of the enemies scale up, but you're already close to your maximum power, so the game becomes quite a bit more difficult. There are no new items or abilities to find.

I've done a few NG+ runs, but I generally prefer to start a new character and play with a new build. I think you'll be surprised at how quickly you will progress compared to your first run.

Eh, there are new items to make, no? You can't platinum the game without getting to NG++ by yourself, right? You can trade for items, but otherwise you have to go that far, right?

Dakuna wrote:
Dyni wrote:
Stevintendo wrote:

So I've taken a break for a couple of days...but I kinda feel like I wanna play more Dark Souls...

What are the benefits of NG+ over starting a different character?

All of the enemies scale up, but you're already close to your maximum power, so the game becomes quite a bit more difficult. There are no new items or abilities to find.

I've done a few NG+ runs, but I generally prefer to start a new character and play with a new build. I think you'll be surprised at how quickly you will progress compared to your first run.

Eh, there are new items to make, no? You can't platinum the game without getting to NG++ by yourself, right? You can trade for items, but otherwise you have to go that far, right?

Such as? Boss souls can be used to make multiple items, but there's nothing he couldn't have found his first time around. Only Dark Souls 2 has new content in NG+.

And Platinuming the game isn't a thing on Switch It doesn't have achievements.

No achievements, gotcha. So yes, new items you can make, as you mentioned, so if you want to experience those, and play the same character, you can keep playing. Otherwise, yeah, I guess on the switch it makes more sense to just do a new playthrough if you want to try a different build.

Capra down first try and with only 3 hits! Forgot to do the first drop 2 handed and so it took and extra swing.

Off to grab the large ember quick then down to quelaag and anor Londo!

Stevintendo wrote:

What are the benefits of NG+ over starting a different character?

IMHO the first half of the game in NG+ is as easy as Dark Souls gets because you are using end game gear against barely scaled beginning of game enemies. There is nothing more fun than melting the first few bosses like tissue paper.

Also, the BKH is indeed a great weapon. A bit heavy (level that endurance) but the damage curve is borderline broken.

Yeah, I picked up on the beginning of NG+ being easy... I played as far as Firelink to get a taste for it and almost took down the Asylum Demon just with my drop attack... That felt strange to be honest!

I think I'll go with a new character... I played Warrior first time and stuck to Sword and Shield, plus a bow. I'm thinking maybe I'll try a Pyromancer to see what magic's like. I'd imagine that'll be quite different to my first playthrough.

Main reason I can think of for NG+ instead of starting fresh: there are some cosplay options that would be unavailable (Gwyn), or only “late-game” possible (Artorias), or not at all (until you re-fight O&S, depending on who you killed second). Even doing my Havel playthrough felt hampered by only being able to get his set in Anor Londo, but now that he’s set up, he’s been Smough, and could also do Giant Sentinels, or Stone Guardians, I guess.

Forgot to stream it, but I managed to push a bit farther into Sen's Fortress. Found the bonfire up there (thanks to a message left by someone) and now just have to figure out where to go from there.

I took my first steps as a Pyromancer and my first impression is that the fireball attack does a lot of damage!

What's fun is that I know where some items are that I can run and get quickly. I've hit New Londo, the Cemetary, and Valley of the Drakes. I'm tempted to see if I can get the Red ring straight away... That might be harder.

I'm also making a 'to do' list for myself for this run, things that I didn't know to do last time because I was trying to avoid spoilers.

Here's what I've got so far (mainly thanks to Hobear!):

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- Do Four Kings before I place the Lordvessel

- Do the DLC before I fight Sif

- Read up on all the NPCs' quest lines (I lost track of Solaire and Onion Guy in Lost Izilath last time)

- Destroy Lautrec before he has a chance to ruin my day

- Find and fight the dragon in the DLC

- Maybe fight the boss in the Painted World. She seemed nice so I didn't want to attack her... I should probably see the fight though.

- Get the ring that lets me speak to Quelaag's sister.

(I've already fought Gwydoline and darkened Anor Londo. I'll probably do that again though.)

Anyone have anything else they'd add to that list? Things that tend to get missed on a first playthrough?

I think the ONLY way to talk to

Spoiler:

Quelagg’s sister

is to take

Spoiler:

the witch ring as your starting gift.

I don’t think there’s any other way... (as far as I remember)

I think there might be another one in the game, Wink. But Its later. This is my vague recollection.

Atomicvideohead wrote:

I think there might be another one in the game, Wink. But Its later. This is my vague recollection.

I think you might be right - I’m now remembering you can trade something to the crows for it.

Wink_and_the_Gun wrote:
Atomicvideohead wrote:

I think there might be another one in the game, Wink. But Its later. This is my vague recollection.

I think you might be right - I’m now remembering you can trade something to the crows for it.

Yeah, that's what I read anyway. I'm just not familiar with the item you trade for it... I'll have to look up where/how to get it.

Steven

Spoiler:

hey I don't think you can save sir and do the other ending

Hobear wrote:

Steven

Spoiler:

hey I don't think you can save sir and do the other ending

Uh-oh!

Spoiler:

Who can't I save?

Stevintendo wrote:
Hobear wrote:

Steven

Spoiler:

hey I don't think you can save sif and do the other ending

Uh-oh!

Spoiler:

Who can't I save?

Fixed the auto correct above

The item you have all been spoilering can indeed be acquired by trading, indeed... if you want to know what, it's...

Spoiler:

Trading a Sunlight Maggot to Snuggly the crow for the Old Witch's Ring.

Hope that helps!

Woot!

Beat the Iron Golem at the end of Sen's Fortress first try and got dragged to Anor Londo. That is a pretty, pretty area. Wandered around a bit, and then found my way to the cathedral.

So pretty!

Wow just Iron Gollum down too, what quick work a +10 weapon makes! First try as well. I recall him being more difficult and maybe as a first few runs the size and landscape made me worried. On to Anor Londo, if only I could be so grossly incandescent

Darted pasted the archers in Anor Londo first try. Wow that never goes so well. I nearly quit there my first playthrough.

So I'm a sucker and bought the remaster. I beat Dark Souls years ago, after a copy of the Prepare to Die edition dropped onto my lap during a Steam sale -- well, I hesitate to say that "I" beat it, because a very kind Goodjer (thanks AVH ) helped power me through with enormous patience while I struggled to land even a single backstab. In the years since, I've played through about 75% of DS2 and DS3, but didn't get around to finishing them off, for various reasons.

Anyway. The remaster release and Sean's video series got me hooked on the idea of playing DS1 again, and so I began a couple of days ago. I have intense memories of some areas, and vague recollections of others so far. I'm trying to be more patient and methodical when I play. I never got the hang of parry/riposte through any of my previous Souls experience, but I'm happy to say that it's finally clicked with me now; doesn't always succeed, but often enough to keep me in business.

I so far have been playing Hollow, soloing environments and bosses. I've defeated up through the Gargoyles and the Capra Demon, as well as a few minibosses (e.g. hydra & butterfly). The Taurus Demon was probably the most difficult fight so far, surprisingly. Shortly after that fight, I switched over from a Scimitar to the Drake Sword (which I remembered how to cheese from my first time playing), and then more recently, to the Black Knight Sword. I love the speed of the Drake Sword, but its lack of scale means it probably isn't worth investing in; I love the damage output and the ability to operate in narrow corridors of the BKS, but it demands extreme patience and precision... and I don't know how worthwhile it is to upgrade. I'm also using a Crest Shield for defense, while I run around naked. It's been working pretty well.

I killed Quelaag on the first attempt (with assistance from Maneater Mildred). I also leveled Faith a bit and switched over to Astora's Straight Sword; it doesn't hit quite as hard as the Black Knight Sword, but it looks like it scales a bit better and it's much lighter, so I can actually wear some armor.

Then I inadvertently ran into the open pit where the elevator out of New Londo Ruins should have been, and lost 30k souls (I died again while en route to recover by falling off the wooden waterwheel contraption). Ah well.

C’est la Dark Souls.

Hobear wrote:

Darted pasted the archers in Anor Londo first try. Wow that never goes so well. I nearly quit there my first playthrough.

Well done!

In relation to your other post, I feel like the Iron Gollum was about the time I realised that helping other folks beat bosses was a lot of fun so I have some affection for the big lunk.

I tried watching Sean's Dark Souls run through but it didn't click with me. I think I just don't enjoy watching people that are "forced" to play a game when they have very little interest in it. Plus I knew it was going to end immediately after the terms of the bet were met. Unfinished Let's Play's are a huge pet peeve with me.

It did make me fight the urge to go pick it up myself for the umpteenth time. I resisted though. Way too many other games I need to get through.