Dark Souls Catch-All

You can do those bosses before or after Blighttown, Sonic.

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And they're optional.

I did them before, but mainly because I hated the Depths and was looking for any excuse to avoid them.

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Of course, the Depths are also optional, since I had the Master Key. I knew none of this at the time.

Well, after getting toasted half a dozen times, I've finally gotten past that damn dragon - I've now got a pile of souls and haven't leveled up yet:

Should I wait for the blacksmith to upgrade my axe or spend them on leveling up? I'm sure Vitality and Strength will help for my pyromancer but I'm open to suggestion.

Did you kill the dragon, or just sprint by him?

Before you upgrade Strength, make sure that you're going to want to use a Strength-based weapon. Some weapons scale off STR, others DEX. Some don't scale at all, after upgrades. Some scale off INT or Faith, after upgrades.

I think this is a good game to plan a progression path.

If you don't know what you want to upgrade, you can't go wrong with a little Vitality or Endurance early. An upgraded weapon definitely does help, if you think you've found a weapon you like.

Well, at least now we know...

http://kotaku.com/5957886/dark-souls...

Glad I never chose it. But I did get the one that drops and held on to it for a while. Guess I can trade it for a souvenir now.

Yay! I beat 4 Kings with my lvl 4 Knight. Now I can beat the game if I ever feel like giving up and not defeating the DLC bosses with this character.

Gimpy_Butzke wrote:

Yay! I beat 4 Kings with my lvl 4 Knight. Now I can beat the game if I ever feel like giving up and not defeating the DLC bosses with this character.

Nice!

Imho beating the game this way is amazing with or without the DLC.

Also, thanks for upstaging the s*** out of me for beating them at level 60.

Gimpy_Butzke wrote:

Yay! I beat 4 Kings with my lvl 4 Knight. Now I can beat the game if I ever feel like giving up and not defeating the DLC bosses with this character.

Congrats man! That is definitely an accomplishment.

Tyrian wrote:

Well, at least now we know...

http://kotaku.com/5957886/dark-souls...

That makes me so incredibly happy.

Fedaykin98 wrote:

You can do those bosses before or after Blighttown, Sonic.

Mild spoiler:

Spoiler:

And they're optional.

I did them before, but mainly because I hated the Depths and was looking for any excuse to avoid them.

Spoiler:

Of course, the Depths are also optional, since I had the Master Key. I knew none of this at the time.

Hmm, probably makes more sense to do 'em afterwards then to save the long run out. Thanks!

I went to the Depths and suddenly choosing Pyromancer became a really good move!

Played for about 40 minutes last night before Castle. How the heck do you keep the bridge drake from doing the move where he hops up into the air and one-shots you? I was wearing Havel's armor and had Inner whatever (the Pyromancy that makes you tougher but slower), and he still killed me - which I assume means that attack cannot be survived, period.

I wanted to beat him just to check that off the list, but after two episodes of that, and several more times where I ran around the bridge and he never showed up, I took my ball and headed to the Catacombs. The Divine Estoc +5 I made months ago is finally useful!

Fedaykin98 wrote:

Played for about 40 minutes last night before Castle. How the heck do you keep the bridge drake from doing the move where he hops up into the air and one-shots you? I was wearing Havel's armor and had Inner whatever (the Pyromancy that makes you tougher but slower), and he still killed me - which I assume means that attack cannot be survived, period.

I wanted to beat him just to check that off the list, but after two episodes of that, and several more times where I ran around the bridge and he never showed up, I took my ball and headed to the Catacombs. The Divine Estoc +5 I made months ago is finally useful!

The only way I've ever killed him was with the dragonbow popping in and out of the area Solaire hangs in.

Fedaykin98 wrote:

Played for about 40 minutes last night before Castle. How the heck do you keep the bridge drake from doing the move where he hops up into the air and one-shots you? I was wearing Havel's armor and had Inner whatever (the Pyromancy that makes you tougher but slower), and he still killed me - which I assume means that attack cannot be survived, period.

I wanted to beat him just to check that off the list, but after two episodes of that, and several more times where I ran around the bridge and he never showed up, I took my ball and headed to the Catacombs. The Divine Estoc +5 I made months ago is finally useful!

I never beat him and I kind of like that. I like the idea of an unbeatable boss in the game. That's not actually the case but it's still cool that he's so hard.

Not beating him makes me feel like I'm less of a man. Dark Souls is about mastering the game, becoming a badass. At least for me.

Now, if I did another playthrough, I'm sure I'd skip him and all kinds of optional bosses.

Fedaykin98 wrote:

Not beating him makes me feel like I'm less of a man. Dark Souls is about mastering the game, becoming a badass. At least for me.

Now, if I did another playthrough, I'm sure I'd skip him and all kinds of optional bosses.

He's the only thing I've skipped/will skip.

I envy you guys that can skip content. This is the worst game for us completionists. I have no idea how long it will take to get to level 780+ since I'm only 200 now.

ibdoomed wrote:

I envy you guys that can skip content. This is the worst game for us completionists. I have no idea how long it will take to get to level 780+ since I'm only 200 now.

Are there any achievements or other things that require defeating the dragon or is it purely a mental block in this case?

I don't care about cheevos, just owe that mutha a poundin'.

SixteenBlue wrote:
ibdoomed wrote:

I envy you guys that can skip content. This is the worst game for us completionists. I have no idea how long it will take to get to level 780+ since I'm only 200 now.

Are there any achievements or other things that require defeating the dragon or is it purely a mental block in this case?

I loathe achievements. I've purposefully avoided some industry revered games entirely because the achievements annoyed me too much.

It's a mental problem in my case, unfinished business.

There are a couple of ways to beat him. The melee method requires you to play a bit cheesy:

The other method is to bait him down and sprint past him, then lock on from underneath and smack him with a gazillion arrows.

Fedaykin98 wrote:

Did you kill the dragon, or just sprint by him?

Before you upgrade Strength, make sure that you're going to want to use a Strength-based weapon. Some weapons scale off STR, others DEX. Some don't scale at all, after upgrades. Some scale off INT or Faith, after upgrades.

I think this is a good game to plan a progression path.

If you don't know what you want to upgrade, you can't go wrong with a little Vitality or Endurance early. An upgraded weapon definitely does help, if you think you've found a weapon you like.

I sprinted by him - I do know about the whole

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'20 arrows in the tail' trick to kill him and get some awesome sword

exploit but I'd prefer to play through in a semi-legit fashion first time round.

I've heard that the Pyromancer axe is pretty serviceable even in the later stages of the game so I might put points into whatever that scales with (strength?)

Regarding getting past him I actually got past him by running when I reached the blackened part of the bridge and going down stairs ahead of the flame - thanks youtube - (and prompty had to do it again due to not knocking down the ladder because I'm stupid)

Second time around I was hugging the wall and the game kinda gliched - the dragon flew at me but was also perched up on his ledge - but I only suffered half health knocked off from the flame instead of dying, which I happily accepted and saved.

PlainGreyT wrote:

I sprinted by him - I do know about the whole

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'20 arrows in the tail' trick to kill him and get some awesome sword

exploit but I'd prefer to play through in a semi-legit fashion first time round.

That trick does not kill him. All it does is net you the sword... and it is entirely legit in the sense that it was purposely put there as a way for newer players to get an awesome sword early on (note: sword does not remain awesome for that long, really). You need way, way more arrows to actually kill him from below.

imbiginjapan wrote:
PlainGreyT wrote:

I sprinted by him - I do know about the whole

Spoiler:

'20 arrows in the tail' trick to kill him and get some awesome sword

exploit but I'd prefer to play through in a semi-legit fashion first time round.

That trick does not kill him. All it does is net you the sword... and it is entirely legit in the sense that it was purposely put there as a way for newer players to get an awesome sword early on.

Yes, it's there for a reason.

Well after clearing the depths I've finally hit a brick wall. I cleared out New Londo ruins only to find that

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There is no path forward to follow just a locked gate and a lift that doesn't work.

I worked my way through blight town only to find that

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I can't beat the spider demon. She appears to have some sort of magic attack that one hit kills me.

And I've cleard out as much of the catacombs as I can but the

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Wheel skeltons are too damn fast for me

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I think I'll take a break.

That's one of the incredible things about this game. What seems like an exploit and probably would be in any other game, the devs thought of and put in there on purpose.

Take the boar for instance. They purposefully put those skulls on that ledge above. They absolutely meant for you to kill him without him being able to attack back. Either with those skulls or just arrows or magic or ... The same with the giant rat, why else would they have that drop down? Why would the dragon's tail be there and not immune and that nice ledge for you to shoot from?

Either A) the devs are complete idiots and that's not bloody likely considering the rest of the game, or B) they did all this 'exploitiveness' by design.

But then they also pulled crap like slime introduction... so...

As a player, thinking outside the box of other rpg's, put aside any thoughts you might have about exploits. Here, it's called tactics. Like the real world, if you were in a fight to the death and on a ledge above someone with a way to kill them and they could not attack back, wouldn't you? Are you having thoughts of that being dishonorable? What if it was a zombie? Vampire? Samus?

Such is the brilliance that is dark souls and has spoiled some of us for all other rpg's.

strangederby wrote:

Well after clearing the depths I've finally hit a brick wall. I cleared out New Londo ruins only to find that

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There is no path forward to follow just a locked gate and a lift that doesn't work.

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You missed a fireplace.

strangederby wrote:

I worked my way through blight town only to find that

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I can't beat the spider demon. She appears to have some sort of magic attack that one hit kills me.

There's no trick here, just keep trying.

strangederby wrote:

And I've cleard out as much of the catacombs as I can but the

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Wheel skeltons are too damn fast for me

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I think I'll take a break.

Same here, it's just tough. Dodge better? Are you at less than 25% load?

ibdoomed wrote:
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You missed a fireplace.

I did? Can't think where it might be. I've been and talked to the

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wizzard chap on the roof

and wandered around the building.

ibdoomed wrote:

Same here, it's just tough. Dodge better? Are you at less than 25% load?

I should say so. I'm using the Shadow set.

Get help for the boss you're stuck on. At minimum use the NPC summon. If you get one shot by the boss, let the other people do the work.

strangered - two of the three paths you're attempting are late-game areas:

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Catacombs and New Londo Ruins are for very, very late, and at least NLR can't be finished until you've beaten some other bosses.

My advice:

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The next thing you need to do is finish of the spider witch. If you think you just can't do it right now (I thought she was easy), beat some optional bosses or something and level up your stats and/or gear. Or give it another shot by summoning someone, as SixteenBlue suggests.