Unofficial GWJ Book Club - Thanks, All.

Curious about the upcoming questions we are going to tackle

Yeah, I got waylaid by two different ailments and SWTOR. I'm really far behind on things at the moment, but I will drop some DQ's everyone's way by the end of next week.

Yeah, same here, hoping to catch up over the holiday break.

NSMike wrote:

Yeah, I got waylaid by two different ailments and SWTOR. I'm really far behind on things at the moment, but I will drop some DQ's everyone's way by the end of next week.

Just SWTOR for me - I'm at about the 20% point, per my Kindle.

Oh, well then I don't feel so bad only being at 40%.

I finished the book today. Turns out the last 30% or so is all acknowledgements, footnotes, image captions, and index entries. DQs will be provided soon.

Also finished it

Gah.. I'm way behind. I'll get to reading some more of it soon

I finished it on Tuesday night. Very interesting book. I'm excited for the discussion questions.

I might have to try joining this next go round.

Ah, yes. Discussion Questions.

Well, um, I totally have not forgotten about these or anything. Nope. Didn't forget at all.

I'm almost done, so should be good for the discussion. Looking forward to it!

Finished, and I have some great discussion questions of my own to bring to the table. I forget, are we posting here or on Goodreads for those?

Jolly Billl, I'm just going to share the questions you came up with for everyone to ponder. Read them, come up with your own responses, and come up with some questions of your own if you so desire.

[list]
[*]Do you question any of the facts or logic presented by CS in these lectures? Which ones and why?

[*]With the end of the Cold War, are we as a species less likely to annihilate ourselves today than we were in 1985 when CS gave the lectures?

[*]An underlying theme of the book is the enormous offense by some that others hold different beliefs, be they religious, scientific, or otherwise. Do you feel that it is imperative we come to an understanding, regardless of your current view? If so, how can we best come to that understanding?

[*]Do you believe that there is a chemical or molecular component, either internal to the brain and body or created by external means, to religious experience? If so, how does this affect your view of religious experience?

[*]Is the preservation of life (as a whole, not individuals) truly essential to religion?

[*]Should we, as a society, hold our leaders responsible for views which are internally inconsistent? Or for taking actions inconsistent with their views? Should we do so for all individuals, not just our leaders?

And now I have to reread it quickly again. Damn my short term memory!

Glad my questions helped! Here are some notations for those who are rereading for discussion based on where I wrote the notes that morphed into these questions:

NSMike wrote:

Jolly Billl, I'm just going to share the questions you came up with for everyone to ponder. Read them, come up with your own responses, and come up with some questions of your own if you so desire.

[list]
[*]Do you question any of the facts or logic presented by CS in these lectures? Which ones and why?

[*]With the end of the Cold War, are we as a species less likely to annihilate ourselves today than we were in 1985 when CS gave the lectures?

[*]An underlying theme of the book is the enormous offense by some that others hold different beliefs, be they religious, scientific, or otherwise. Do you feel that it is imperative we come to an understanding, regardless of your current view? If so, how can we best come to that understanding? [page 40 paperback, location 476 Kindle]

[*]Do you believe that there is a chemical or molecular component, either internal to the brain and body or created by external means, to religious experience? If so, how does this affect your view of religious experience? [beginning paperback page 162, kindle location 1770, continuing for some time]

[*]Is the preservation of life (as a whole, not individuals) truly essential to religion? [paperback page 205, Kindle location 2290]

[*]Should we, as a society, hold our leaders responsible for views which are internally inconsistent? Or for taking actions inconsistent with their views? Should we do so for all individuals, not just our leaders? [Starting page 208 paperback, kindle location 2345]

Honestly these notes make it seem like I'm far more organized than I am. This is something I want to do with every book I read (marking while I read, making notations) and this book was just a good excuse to get it started for the first time.

So, if you recall, January 4, this coming Wednesday, will be our round-table, Mumble discussion. Considering I don't know what time zones you folks are all in, I'm not sure exactly how to pick a time, so everyone who intends to show up, please post your availability, and I'll pick something with a happy medium. It will, of course, be in the evening, trying for a timeslot between 7 PM and 9 PM EST.

I'm available between 7:30 and 9 PM EST, and I'd prefer earlier rather than later.

Any time is fine with me

I'll be on board with the next book. Things have slowed down enough at work that I'm not dead every night when I get home. Oh, and TOR didn't connect with me long-term, so I'm not bothered by that.

7:30 est is pretty early for those of us in mountain or pacific - usually just getting home then. Not sure how many the many from the western US will be representing though. 8est might work a bit better?

Also, I totally should have taken notes while reading. Might skim back through tonight and do that. Plus get setup with mumble.

Ugh.. barely passed 25%. I might lurk on the mumble channel, but I don't think I'll be much good for active participation.

Tanglebones wrote:

Ugh.. barely passed 25%. I might lurk on the mumble channel, but I don't think I'll be much good for active participation.

Similar boat. Plan was to read this after I finished the Second Hunger Games book, probably on my holiday. Let me just say my Xmas plans went to sh*tsville, and I did most of the driving on my New Year trip, which was cut short by a blizzard.

Bah Humbug I say!

Earlier is better for me.

I just saw mention of this in my friends feed on Goodreads. Obviously I'm too late to participate for book one, but I'd like to join up for the second round.

Ok, we'll go with 8:00 PM EST, unless there are objections. Do your own conversions for your time zones. Check the mumble info in the OP, if you've forgotten about that. As a privilege to those who show up, we will be taking a vote on the next book. I will offer a pool of books of my own choice, but feel free to add your own suggestions to the pool. Since this could get quite large, first we'll vote on a genre, then vote on a book within that genre.

Hope to see you there!

Will be there, unless my daughters decide to skype right then

Ack, ran into issues at work. At home now, downloading mumble.

Good discussion tonight, folks! The unanimous decision over our next book is Tigana. I may have been forceful in my suggestion.

Amazon/Audible links here, but there is not a Kindle edition.

Was a nice meet up for sure. More people then I expected!
Oh, Tigana: find Kindle edition here
Not sure how you buy it and support GWJ a bit.