Disney Buys LucasFilm, Star Wars Episode 7 in 2015

Strangeblades wrote:

Gasp! Activate Jesusween!

Oh no, that's a real thing.

...

Oh good. At least it's not what I thought it might be.

So to answer ... myself ... from earlier in the thread - Lucas owned 100% of Lucasefilms, with hardly any debt. So of that $4.05bn purchase price, nearly all of it goes into his bank account.

Except for this gem: “As I start a new chapter in my life, it is gratifying that I have the opportunity to devote more time and resources to philanthropy.”

That's right kiddies, he's giving away "a majority" of his proceeds from the sale. Who knows if he'll hold onto the Disney stock that he's getting, or rolling that into a trust/foundation, but its nice to see him follow in the footsteps of Gates.

Stele wrote:
Devonin wrote:

As fun as it is to edit Disney cartoon pictures into stock footage of the trilogy, Disney is also the company that made The Avengers, ... they own Marvel which licensed out the X-men movies, et al. They know how to make serious things for gamer-types as well as cartoons.

You realize they bought Marvel in Dec 2009?

At best they did distribution of Iron Man 2.

They might have done filming and post-production work too on Thor and Captain America, but the scripts and casting were already in hand by the time they took over.

They do get full credit for finishing the plans already laid out pre-acquisition and following through on Avengers. And they seem to be making the right decisions by keeping Whedon around for Avengers 2.

FOX did X-Men First Class and Sony did Amazing Spider-Man, so it's not like Disney-Marvel is responsible for those. The franchises were already in the other studios' hands. Not sure why you're giving credit to Disney for any of the X-Men decisions. :?

The intention of that statement wasn't to give them credit for the success of films that were released before the acquisition, but to demonstrate that they currently employ plenty of producers and directors who have proven that they can make movies in that style, of high quality.

McIrishJihad wrote:

So to answer ... myself ... from earlier in the thread - Lucas owned 100% of Lucasefilms, with hardly any debt. So of that $4.05bn purchase price, nearly all of it goes into his bank account.

Except for this gem: “As I start a new chapter in my life, it is gratifying that I have the opportunity to devote more time and resources to philanthropy.”

That's right kiddies, he's giving away "a majority" of his proceeds from the sale. Who knows if he'll hold onto the Disney stock that he's getting, or rolling that into a trust/foundation, but its nice to see him follow in the footsteps of Gates.

While I would not want to see him direct another Star Wars movie, this is not very surprising to me. He seems like the philanthropic type. Good for him.

This philanthropic side is why I can make the distinction of only hating what he did to a beloved (albiet his own) series and not the man himself.

Grenn wrote:

This philanthropic side is why I can make the distinction of only hating what he did to a beloved (albiet his own) series and not the man himself.

Yes. Poor Howard the Duck

He is actually one of the folks that has taken the Gates/Buffet pledge to give away at least half their fortunes.

I wonder if Disney feels stupid now for passing on Star Wars when he was first trying to make it.

RolandofGilead wrote:

Anyway, Disney/Marvel canceled Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes.

Aww. That show is 5 flavours of awesome.

Chumpy_McChump wrote:
RolandofGilead wrote:

Anyway, Disney/Marvel canceled Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes.

Aww. That show is 5 flavours of awesome.

Canceled-ish - it's being continued under a different name:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avenger...(TV_series)

Tanglebones wrote:
Chumpy_McChump wrote:
RolandofGilead wrote:

Anyway, Disney/Marvel canceled Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes.

Aww. That show is 5 flavours of awesome.

Canceled-ish - it's being continued under a different name:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avenger...(TV_series)

Will Mickie and Minni be the new Antman and Wasp?

I didn't read the whole thread, but I suspect I'm one of the only people who saw this news and didn't immediately think "Will Disney be good for Star Wars?" but rather "Will Star Wars be good for Disney?"

'Cause that's four billion they could've spent on all the pet theme park projects I want them to do. :p

Guys and gals just remember: Lucas is not doing Star Wars - someone else is.

Strangeblades wrote:

Guys and gals just remember: Lucas is not doing Star Wars - someone else is.

Well, yes, and I'm cautiously optimistic. But it's an extremely reverential and loyal Kathleen Kennedy doing Star Wars from Lucas's story notes. Still, if whoever is in charge can put focus back on script, performance, and the humanity of it all, there's no reason it can't be good.

I just want to bring everyone back down to reality here.

A New Hope was a Buck Rogers style story. If we analyzed it with the same level that people did Prometheus, then we'd be asking ourselves "why the Hell does the Imperial Death Star have a monster in its garbage chute". How do you import something like that?

Let us forget that the expanded universe probably concocted some ridiculous fan-fic style explanation, like maybe it was a parasite.

You know why it was in there? Because of Buck Rogers, or any number of those shows. "Oh no, our heroes descended into a chute that goes somewhere mysterious! What will they do next episode? Oh no, our heroes survived the thralls of the mysterious monster only for the walls to be closing in! Find out next episode what happens! And drink your God damned Ovaltine, kids!"

So stop with the reverence for a minute. I just want a good fun space adventure, and considering Whedon's track record of insisting space be silent and have no sound effects I say we give it to someone that can deal with the irrationality and impossibility of a lightsaber.

EDIT: In hindsight, this is me projecting reactions I don't get from all over the Internet again. Don't mind me.

The monster was to eat the rats. Duh.

Slumberland wrote:
Strangeblades wrote:

Guys and gals just remember: Lucas is not doing Star Wars - someone else is.

Well, yes, and I'm cautiously optimistic. But it's an extremely reverential and loyal Kathleen Kennedy doing Star Wars from Lucas's story notes. Still, if whoever is in charge can put focus back on script, performance, and the humanity of it all, there's no reason it can't be good.

Though I feel compelled to point out that over-reverential treatment is a determent to creativity. And arguably it's the exact problem with the prequels: the entire production team treated Lucas's ideas as divinely inspired revelation , and the original trilogy as some transcendent truth, instead of viewing them as really fun films with great heart. Part of the problem is that they believed that following the Hero's Journey or whatever was what made the films great, and forgot to actually make a good film first.

Which is why that I'm not worked up about this either way: new creative blood could be good or could be bad but I'm fine with waiting and seeing.

ccesarano wrote:

"why the Hell does the Imperial Death Star have a monster in its garbage chute".

I had never thought of that. Now you mention it, it is a bit weird.

1Dgaf wrote:
ccesarano wrote:

"why the Hell does the Imperial Death Star have a monster in its garbage chute".

I had never thought of that. Now you mention it, it is a bit weird.

It's been covered.

Grenn wrote:
1Dgaf wrote:
ccesarano wrote:

"why the Hell does the Imperial Death Star have a monster in its garbage chute".

I had never thought of that. Now you mention it, it is a bit weird.

It's been covered.

And that's the thing. You were never supposed to actually think about A New Hope, because it was a fun romp through space!

But then Empire Strikes Back had to go and ruin it with deeper stuff and now everyone has "expectations".

Grenn wrote:
1Dgaf wrote:
ccesarano wrote:

"why the Hell does the Imperial Death Star have a monster in its garbage chute".

I had never thought of that. Now you mention it, it is a bit weird.

It's been covered.

One issue I have with that piece is that that, unlike a Star Destroyer, the "Death Star" is established to be the size of a small moon. It would have a not-insignificant gravitational pull, so just tossing the trash out the door wouldn't work, since it would just be attracted back to the hull.

If you wanted to eject trash into space, you would need to propel it outward with enough force that it would reach escape velocity - much more difficult to do if it's all loose bits of this and that. It would make sense to compact it into small lumps, either for storage and ease of transport (with a garbage vessel) or to propel the whole cube out of a cannon (presumably using the Star Wars magic artificial gravity tech(tm)).

So, conceptually, the trash compactor makes sense.

Of course, that doesn't explain all of the many design flaws in the system, such as why you would have a monster in your trash compactor.

ccesarano wrote:

And that's the thing. You were never supposed to actually think about A New Hope, because it was a fun romp through space!

Perhaps this more adequately explains it

gore wrote:

NERD!

Nothing on McSweeny's should be taken seriously at all.

Of course, that doesn't explain all of the many design flaws in the system, such as why you would have a monster in your trash compactor.

Or why you would go to the effort of putting a monster in your trash compactor and then install walls that crush completely flat, thus killing your monster any time you actually compacted the trash.

Shuuutt upp! Shuuutttt upppp!

Stop doing this to meeeeeee!

The purpose of that room is not actually to compact garbage, it's a trap.

They have a conveniently placed vents for heroes to blast in an effort to escape, the troops are trained to coax heroes towards these vents when unable to stop them directly.

The garbage present is purely a psychological torment, an effort to disgust and disorientate said heroes.

The monster is there to kill them.

The compressing walls are in case the monster fails, the presumption is that if the monster failed it's likely injured or dead anyway and should be replaced but even if it still alive then the benefit of killing off the heroes outweighs the cost of putting in a new monster. Perhaps they even breed such things somewhere in the station.

For all we know this system has been extremely effective in past instances. It failed in this case because an inept worker forgot an extremely durable rod of unknown composition in there, everyone has off days.

Grenn wrote:
1Dgaf wrote:
ccesarano wrote:

"why the Hell does the Imperial Death Star have a monster in its garbage chute".

I had never thought of that. Now you mention it, it is a bit weird.

It's been covered.

My world has been shattered, I know not what to think anymore!

krev82 wrote:

The purpose of that room is not actually to compact garbage, it's a trap.

They have a conveniently placed vents for heroes to blast in an effort to escape, the troops are trained to coax heroes towards these vents when unable to stop them directly.

The garbage present is purely a psychological torment, an effort to disgust and disorientate said heroes.

The monster is there to kill them.

The compressing walls are in case the monster fails, the presumption is that if the monster failed it's likely injured or dead anyway and should be replaced but even if it still alive then the benefit of killing off the heroes outweighs the cost of putting in a new monster. Perhaps they even breed such things somewhere in the station.

For all we know this system has been extremely effective in past instances. It failed in this case because an inept worker forgot an extremely durable rod of unknown composition in there, everyone has off days.

Then why is a hackable door there for them to get out?

ccesarano wrote:

Then why is a hackable door there for them to get out?

Maybe Storm Troopers fall in periodically? Those guys aren't all that clever. Yeah, it seems like they have an endless supply of them, but if enough die on the job eventually the lawsuits will start to add up.

Would they? Haven't we established that the Stormtroopers are clones and technically Imperial property?

ccesarano wrote:

Would they? Haven't we established that the Stormtroopers are clones and technically Imperial property?

The clones filled the Empire's ranks initially, but eventually they created a much larger army through xenophobic retcruitment tactics.