Snowboarding/Skiing Catch-all

It’s weird, I was thinking about step ins when I was in Utah a couple of weeks ago, and wondering whether they were still around, I feel like I never see them on the mountain, but maybe they’re just camouflaged well.

On that same trip, i had someone ask me what my safety leash was. It was then I realized that snowboarders apparently don’t wear them anymore, when I looked around, no one had one on. Then I felt old. I remember when they were a requirement by the area to ride a board on their lifts. Anyone else still use a safety leash? /oldman

jonnypolite wrote:

It’s weird, I was thinking about step ins when I was in Utah a couple of weeks ago, and wondering whether they were still around, I feel like I never see them on the mountain, but maybe they’re just camouflaged well.

The old style step-in bindings are pretty much gone - I don't think anyone has sold one since 2004.

The new Step On bindings have been in development for 5ish years and just released for the 2017/18 season. I'm not sure how many they produced, but they sold out their initial run pretty much immediately. Probably not too many on any given mountain, but also they're pretty hard to tell apart from regular bindings at a distance unless you're really looking for them.

jonnypolite wrote:

Anyone else still use a safety leash?

I think the advancement in binding/strap materials has eliminated the requirement. Nowadays there's virtually no way you're going to break free of both bindings. So yeah, safety straps aren't a thing anymore

Doesn't that increase ankle/knee/calf injuries, in kinetic falls?

I don't know the answer to that really, I just know that snowboard bindings do not release, short of a catastrophic materials failure. I would assume that the people who design boards and bindings would have done the math on whether to eject or not.

Edit: A bit of google research would seem to indicate that lower extremity injuries are significantly less common for snowboarders than for skiers, so I guess having your feet locked in place is a good thing.

We don’t have the rigid boots and independent limbs that a skier does, so we’re much less likely to tear our ACL or MCL. We’re more likely to do our wrists, ankles and shoulders, and release bindings probably wouldn’t help us. We’re also 1/3 less likely to die on the slope than skiers, although apparently snowboarders, albeit inexperienced ones, are more likely to get injured.

When coming down the Gondola at Steamboat Springs we saw a boarder crash hard or awkward but he lost both feet surprisingly but it has never happened that I have seen before. Mostly anything I have gotten minor hurt on has been upper body and that comes from the ice pack we have for hills here in MN more than mountains. I love having the legs locked in. I did see a sign out west stating boarders must have a leash on & it reminded me I used my old one as a key lanyard or something but not used one in over 10 years.

I didn't realize the boots were that flexible (and I'm not sure they used to be?). Thanks!

jonnypolite wrote:

We’re also 1/3 less likely to die on the slope than skiers, although apparently snowboarders, albeit inexperienced ones, are more likely to get injured.

I'm pretty sure every beginner snowboarder I know has had some level of injury to their tailbone or wrists - you're definitely going to fall on one or the other many, many times. I bought my wife a big butt pad designed for snowboarders years ago when she was just learning, but she never wore it because it "made her look like she was wearing a diaper". She fractured her tailbone shortly thereafter. So yeah, new boarders, wrist guards and butt pads are cool, eh?

Wrist guards are not a bad idea in general as I had enough wrist stinging falls and I don't fall much anymore. I need to get me a set of them and make a good practice of using them.

I have a buddy I’ve been riding with for over 20 years, and he still wears his wrist guards. And I’ve definitely had a couple of close calls where I thought I’d broken something and wished for em. Prob should trade in my safety leash for a pair.

I tend to strap the safety leash on just so I don't do something stupid and let go of my board while both feet are out.

And yes, wrist guards. I'll be wearing them as long as I continue to snowboard. More so the older I get, as healing from injuries takes longer.

Wrist guards last year after two years of damaging myself. Cheap but effective. My right wrist still giving me problems.

How do you find waterproof gloves that will fit comfortably over wrist guards? I can't seem to find a combo that works near me.

Mixolyde wrote:

How do you find waterproof gloves that will fit comfortably over wrist guards? I can't seem to find a combo that works near me.

What kind of gloves do you have?check out www.goodride.com and their wrist guard reviews. I don't have my own yet but my gloves are pretty roomy non finger gloves. Northface hyvent I think?

I do mittens, used to have a pair of burton mittens that were pretty roomy, and fit over wrist guards.

There are plenty of gloves with built-in wrist guards too, so you can just put em on and forget about it.

All of my gloves fit over my wrist guards. How big are your wrist guards? Mine look something like this:

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To be fair, I have comparably dainty wrists, I suppose. Maybe I just always tend to buy gloves on the big side versus snug?

Did my first uphill skin yesterday morning at 5am! Climbed about 1800 feet and it kicked my ass. So much fun watching the sun rise from the top of the mountain, and then skiing down the untouched pristine snow was amazing!

Today we got a ton of powder and I took the wife on her first double black chute. Apart from one rock that was hiding under the snow, it was an unmitigated success. I'm starting to get worried that she'll be leaving me in the dust soon!

That sounds awesome.

We just got back last week from a weekend at big snow in MI. Fun to be out on the boards. Looking forward to taking my daughter to snowboard lessons for the 2nd year this month.