Snowboarding/Skiing Catch-all

mudbunny wrote:

My daughter got a snowboard for Christmas and will be learning this winter. Would it be better for me to grab a snowboard and learn with her, or grab some skis, which I already know how to do. I am thinking snowboard.

Learn with her - it will be awesome! Just be prepared to be humiliated when she picks it up faster than you. You might want to sneak off and get a private lesson or two before you hit the slopes with your daughter, as it can be very hard to learn for an "older person".

My then 6 year old daughter rode her first black diamond run in March of this year on what was technically her 4th full day of snowboarding (spread over a year). By the next day I couldn't keep up with her. At the top of a run, I'd say "wait for me at the bottom and don't talk to strangers!". And then watch with an immense amount of pride and amazement as she shot down the mountain. Now, snowboarding is "our thing" and it is very cool.

Another great weekend on the slopes! I'm getting much better on the jumps; pretty proud of myself really

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That was the only one I got on camera, and not the cleanest, but I managed to land it like a pro, so pretty psyched!

Nice!

New England stinks for skiing right now. We had a weather inversion and a ton of soaking rain; what was 18-24" of base is all gone, and it's been too warm (albeit sporadically) to build any significant artificial cover.

Two weeks ago, I drove four hours to Bolton Valley, where a promised 22 trails turned out to be 2. They considered the bunny slope tow rope area to be "3 different trails!", and when I asked for a voucher or refund after 40 minutes, they refused. I particularly enjoyed having a a snotty teenager tell me that "skiing is a weather dependent sport" and that I was to blame for believing their snow report.

Never going back - the place is woefully out of touch. If you're in the area, go to any of the other mountains around.

Great day for skiing yesterday, until the blizzard rolled in! We had just gotten off the lift in the background and I think we were the last ones on it before they shut it down.

The ski hill we were at is a 45 minute drive from home, and it took us 3 hours and 10 minutes to drive back. I would estimate we saw 60-80 cars in the ditch. There was one section where a semi was jackknifed across both lanes and we had to drive around him on the shoulder. The state patrol closed the highways about 5 minutes after we got home.

Super excited, I'm heading to Fernie, BC from Feb 15-22nd. They had an inversion and warm temps for the last week but from here on out it looks like the snow is back. Sure beats the bump in the earth that is Blue Mountain (Ontario) which is where I normally get to ski.

Here's the wife at Fernie last year. Hope this year will be even better.

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Super depressed. The weather in upper VT this winter has been among the worst on record, and even Tahoe is barely open. Blah. I have a week-long ski trip starting on 2/9, staying in Waitsfield, VT, and Mad River Glen has barely 6" of base.

TheHipGamer wrote:

Super depressed. The weather in upper VT this winter has been among the worst on record, and even Tahoe is barely open. Blah. I have a week-long ski trip starting on 2/9, staying in Waitsfield, VT, and Mad River Glen has barely 6" of base.

Ever consider heading a bit further north to Tremblant?

http://www.tremblant.ca/ski-and-golf...

Constantly improving at my jumps, I'm really starting to catch some huge air and control the landings!

...well except that one landing on Friday where I twisted my ankle and dislocated my shoulder. I'm really sore this week!

Maybe 38 is too old to learn to jump?

Nah! I'll be all healed up in two weeks, just in time to hit up Breckenridge for 6 days!

Less than a week until I head out on a vacation at Mad River, Sugarbush, and the associated mountains. And, VT is just about to get a 8-12" storm, with a second and potentially larger one coming in the day I leave for the hills.

Huzzah!

1 hour from Jackson Hole, 43 inches in 8 days. 4 days of powder ahead. Super psyched.

Update: it was mega-awesome:). Over 2 feet in 4 days, so much powder, auuuugghh!

Anyone have any info on cross-country skiing? I was hiking yesterday and noticed ski tracks on the trail in addition to the fat tire tracks. I can't budget a fat bike just yet but I might be interested in XC skiing if I can get in for $500 or so.

Amazing skiing at Mad River Glen yesterday. Lots of hopping over rocks on the steeps, but the mountain was as crusty and technical as ever, and a half dozen runs took all day. Love this place.

Off to Sugarbush today! 7" of fresh Champlain powder up top!

Went snowboarding with my daughter today wit her school. Was an awesome time. Only my 5th time on a snowboard, but I am improving. Heel-side turns and stops I can do. Toe-side, on the other hand, I suck at in all kinds of ways. Any attempts at that usually end up with me wiping out in a fairly impressive manner making me thankful for my helmet. Going to be getting more lessons later on this year or beginning of next season.

And, this is cross-posted form the Indulgent parent thread, but here is my daughter at the top f our local ski hill.

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Serengeti wrote:

Maybe 38 is too old to learn to jump?

Nah! I'll be all healed up in two weeks, just in time to hit up Breckenridge for 6 days!

I'm living vicariously through you at 33 over here, keep it up (but dear god be careful)!

I'm actually a very avid lifelong skier who hasn't happened to have been skiing in 5 years thanks to the floodgates of child bearing having been opened. With the faucet now set to off, I'm hoping to get myself and my wife some gear and get the kids into it. We're in NC so yea, ice skiing for the win. But I learned on ice and if you can ski on it, you're set for the nice powder!

I'd consider myself a fairly advanced skiier - comfortable on blacks - anyone recommend gear?

Even juicier question: I snowboarded a handful of times in college 10 years ago and LOVED it, but recall being somewhat frustrated by falling down the mountain when I was so used to skiing so well. However, once I had my board under me a little it seemed like so much more fun, and I'd love to be comfortable in the air someday. At 34, would it be best to stick with the skis at this point or learn to board with the family if/when they go that route? Is it best to get young kids on skis first and then try snowboarding or let them pick one and get used to it from the jump?

Can't really give you any advice on gear, I'm no expert at all, but buying new is kind of a sucker's bet with all the used stuff on eBay right now. There are some sweet deals to be had for sure.

As far as snowboarding goes, my anecdotal experience suggests that skiing is easy to learn, difficult to master while snowboarding is the opposite. Once you get past the falling-on-your-face-every-10-seconds stage, snowboarding becomes a lot more fun. For the kids, I would just have them try both and let them choose which they prefer, though it seems like snowboarding is way cooler than skiing with the young-uns right now

I'm going to Whistler/Blackcomb this weekend. Any tips on things I need to see/try? I'm generally comfortable with everything except back-mountain skiing.

S0LIDARITY wrote:

I'm going to Whistler/Blackcomb this weekend. Any tips on things I need to see/try? I'm generally comfortable with everything except back-mountain skiing.

Let me ask my brother and sister-in-law. They live/work there.

Off hand, the peak to peak gondola is a must.

Serengeti wrote:

As far as snowboarding goes, my anecdotal experience suggests that skiing is easy to learn, difficult to master while snowboarding is the opposite. Once you get past the falling-on-your-face-every-10-seconds stage, snowboarding becomes a lot more fun.

The way I described it to friends who wanted to learn is that you are guaranteed to have fun your first day skiing. After you become good at skiing, you really have to start seeking out challenges in order to continue to have lots of fun doing it for multiple days, and amateur jumping opens you up to a lot of knee and ankle injuries. So after a couple seasons you'll be need to find interesting back country terrain, risk the jumps, or put the time in to become a proficient mogul skier.

Snowboarding you probably won't have much fun your first couple days, and the first day is going to be nothing but pain, but once you're competent you can have years of fun just cruising groomers all day, because it's so easy to find little hits all over the place and snowboard jumping is extremely simple to learn, and only seriously risks injury if you go big. The act of just making clean, effortless turns from the top of a mountain to the bottom can be satisfying on a snowboard, whereas on skis I found that got dull in a hurry. Point down, tuck, drift off to sleep unless you hit some bumps.

Snowboarding also puts you on the "I can get down any run" path much faster, if you're interested in going with a group of mixed ability and want everyone to stick together. Steepness isn't a concern; even a second-day rider can just do the old "falling leaf" all the way down. Moguls suck for a very long time on a board, and despite my many years I've never learned how to get through them at any kind of speed without a ton of exhausting knee and thigh work.

TL;DR, I know plenty of skiers (myself included) who switched to riding and never looked back. I don't personally know anyone who did the opposite.

LiquidMantis wrote:

Anyone have any info on cross-country skiing? I was hiking yesterday and noticed ski tracks on the trail in addition to the fat tire tracks. I can't budget a fat bike just yet but I might be interested in XC skiing if I can get in for $500 or so.

I outfitted my wife with some traditional waxless skis/boots/poles 2 years ago for about $200-$250. If you're looking for metal edges, skate skis, or more specialized options the price will go up pretty quickly. Sticking to tracked and groomed areas, the traditional will do just fine. If you plan on making your own tracks with a fair amount of downhill you might want to think about a partial metal edge.

I've been around skinny skis my whole life, but have not spent a ton of time on them, to be honest. I love going XC skiing and have done most of my skiing with my Dad on ungroomed logging roads. Lots of work going in for whoever is up front breaking trail, lots of fun coming back in your tracks. There's just something great about grinding up a hill in your shirtsleeves in single digit temperatures.

Avoid fiberglass poles, and stick with the aluminum. I broke a fiberglass pole halfway up a mountain, and had to turn back and bag the trip because I couldn't go uphill effectively any more.

Also, for anyone out and about in the woods, please don't use ski tracks as a trail for snowshoeing, hiking, etc. It ruins a track, and makes skiing a chore when your skis keep slipping out of the tracks.

Anyone have any 60 cm downhill skis they'd be willing to sell? I'm going to keep my eyes out this spring for some deals for my 2 y/o for next ski season.

I picked up my latest gear - Fischer Motive 88s with Mojo 60 bindings - on Level9 sports. Very good prices, all told.

What matters is your boots. Don't skimp. Don't buy them online. Go somewhere with a proper fitter, have them done right, spend a couple of hours getting set up. Proportionally, boots far outweigh skis in terms of your enjoyment of the sport.

In other news: I am on vacation in Waitsfield, VT, and 30" of snow is supposed to fall here in the next 72 hours. Woot!

Flying out to Fernie in less then 24 hours. They haven't had snow for a few weeks but just got a good dumping of about 42cm (about 17") with more on the way. We're also thinking of calling up these guys to see what there is to see: http://www.powdercatskiing.ca/

Have fun!

My brother made some trips to Fernie over Christmas breaks his first few years of college. I know he really enjoyed the skiing, but I think it was more about being able to legally buy beer since he wasn't 21 yet.

Utterly amazing day at Mad River Glen today - 20" of fresh powder, and more to come at Sugarbush tomorrow. I'm also proud to now be a shareholder at MRG - perhaps my favorite place on Earth.

2 days of spectacular skiing in Breckenridge. What an amazing resort!

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Where was my invite?

LiquidMantis wrote:

Where was my invite?

Well, still have 4 more days of skiing here! Come on out!

Epic day of skiing yesterday! One of my friends told me about the AlpineReplay smartphone app, and I ran it all day. Got some really cool stats and graphs and stuff!

http://www.alpinereplay.com/stats/u?uId=342286&vId=723824

Just got back from my week in Fernie. It snowed every day, powder was a bit heavy until Thursday when it cooled down a touch, then we got over a foot of beautiful light stuff.

We found a nice knee-deep cache over in one of the bowls and stuck to it most of the day. Plowing through that stuff makes you feel like a freaking super hero.

Here's a decent shot I got of the wife.
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And here I was, feeling pretty good about the fact that the local hill wasn't quite as crappy as I expected after five days of above-freezing temperatures and rain.

Hooray for machine-groomed frozen granular without too much ice?

On the bright side, my daughter got brave enough to take an intermediate lesson, and then had her friends talk her into the junior terrain park, and was really excited about it all.