A personal announcement, emphatic thank-you, and cheers to Fedora.

Hypatian wrote:

even though I'm currently interested in women, I also have an intense desire to be penetrated. (TMI? TMI.)

Don't worry, women can do that too

I know, I know.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:

It's complicated. :)

Some conversation in IRC convinced me: call me "she". Even if it's not entirely accurate to how I present myself now, it'll (hopefully) be more accurate in the future and will give you all some time to adjust.

At least it'll be an easier adjustment than if you'd kept your old username.

Bonus_Eruptus wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:

It's complicated. :)

Some conversation in IRC convinced me: call me "she". Even if it's not entirely accurate to how I present myself now, it'll (hopefully) be more accurate in the future and will give you all some time to adjust.

At least it'll be an easier adjustment than if you'd kept your old username.

Like I said before, I vote we call her Adama. So say we all?

Tanglebones wrote:
Bonus_Eruptus wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:

It's complicated. :)

Some conversation in IRC convinced me: call me "she". Even if it's not entirely accurate to how I present myself now, it'll (hopefully) be more accurate in the future and will give you all some time to adjust.

At least it'll be an easier adjustment than if you'd kept your old username.

Like I said before, I vote we call her Adama. So say we all?

Because, at this point, being compared to either Edward James Olmos or Lorne Greene is clearly the goal.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:
Tanglebones wrote:
Bonus_Eruptus wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:

It's complicated. :)

Some conversation in IRC convinced me: call me "she". Even if it's not entirely accurate to how I present myself now, it'll (hopefully) be more accurate in the future and will give you all some time to adjust.

At least it'll be an easier adjustment than if you'd kept your old username.

Like I said before, I vote we call her Adama. So say we all?

Because, at this point, being compared to either Edward James Olmos or Lorne Greene is clearly the goal.

Craggily beautiful.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:

It's complicated. :)

Some conversation in IRC convinced me: call me "she". Even if it's not entirely accurate to how I present myself now, it'll (hopefully) be more accurate in the future and will give you all some time to adjust.

Yes, ma'am!

Hypatian wrote:

Yeah, things can get kind of confusing. For myself, I'm pretty sure that I'm going to remain almost exclusively attracted to women.

One thing that is interesting to me as I've been reading this thread is that the trans* person isn't just transitioning to a new gender, but a new social perception of his or her sexual orientation from the normative to the non-normative (or vice versa). (Or orientation changes during transition as with Trachalio's friend, which is eventful in a totally different way.) That's not something I've seen a lot of people mention in transgender stuff.

Something else: How does the law work with "traditionally" married trans* individuals in states that don't recognize gay marriage? It seems like the continuum of options are: (1) doesn't recognize the transition, you're still married; (2) recognizes the transition, you can't be married anymore (WTF); (3) recognizes the transition, you're still married. As distressing as the notion of the second one is, all three seem awkward in their own way. It really highlights how ridiculous it is to complicate marriage with gender at all, IMO.

In a lot of states you get "grandfathered" into same sex marriage, even if they otherwise don't allow for it.

SallyNasty wrote:

In a lot of states you get "grandfathered" into same sex marriage, even if they otherwise don't allow for it.

I couldn't help but laugh out loud at this, given how often the term is used to describe the unlimited data plans for smartphones. Are they going to throttle your marriage benefits if you go over the 3GB limit that newlyweds are stuck with?

pgroce wrote:

It really highlights how ridiculous it is to complicate marriage with gender at all, IMO.

Congrats, Clocky!

I love this community.

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ClockworkHouse wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:

It's complicated. :)

Some conversation in IRC convinced me: call me "she". Even if it's not entirely accurate to how I present myself now, it'll (hopefully) be more accurate in the future and will give you all some time to adjust.

WOOT!

pgroce wrote:

Something else: How does the law work with "traditionally" married trans* individuals in states that don't recognize gay marriage? It seems like the continuum of options are: (1) doesn't recognize the transition, you're still married; (2) recognizes the transition, you can't be married anymore (WTF); (3) recognizes the transition, you're still married. As distressing as the notion of the second one is, all three seem awkward in their own way. It really highlights how ridiculous it is to complicate marriage with gender at all, IMO.

As SallyNasty said, it's basically 1 and 3 in all cases. There are constraints on who is allowed to [em]get[/em] married, but once you're married, you're married. The only way out is to dissolve the marriage, and that doesn't happen automatically. I imagine that it could be made to happen automatically, but that would require a new law to be passed to specifically account for that case, which seems unlikely.

I love this thread, it cheers me up every damn time I read it.

pgroce wrote:

It really highlights how ridiculous it is to complicate marriage with gender at all, IMO.

Big +1 to that. I'd like to think we're at a transition point in western society where we realise just how silly the whole hullabaloo around gender restricted marriages is.

Clockwork,

When I first started coming here regularly I started looking up to you as a wise mentor in the way of Atlus games and JRPGs. Now I have another reason to look up to you.

And again, everyone else here. I keep saying you guys are awesome, right?

I've been reading this thread from the beginning, but I think I've only posted once or twice. I just want to send well-wishes, congratulations, and good-lucks to every single person in here.

The tolerance, trust, and friendship displayed is a testament to the community at large, and makes me more and more proud to be here with every post.

I live in a place where these types of topics just don't get brought up, or discussed in a civil manner. Homophobia, racism, and general bigotry are all still fairly socially acceptable traits in the circles I am exposed to. Of course, this view is limited by my experiences being in the oilpatch, which has a stereotype that is well deserved.

I'm just glad to be here. Sometimes I feel like I'm a fish out of water because of my views and this place is my refuge.

Blah blah blah... Happiness to all!

This thread keeps getting more and more amazing.

Switchbreak wrote:

This thread keeps getting more and more amazing.

Seriously... congratulations Clocky! I still feel so new here I didn't realize on IRC that this was a new announcement. I'm so happy that your wife is beside on this, and we've got your back too!

Switchbreak wrote:

This thread keeps getting more and more amazing.

My thoughts exactly.
I miss being on IRC, I need to go back. Big congrats, Clock. I'm happy that you feel comfortable enough to share this, and you know that everyone will always be here for you.

Hypatian wrote:
pgroce wrote:

Something else: How does the law work with "traditionally" married trans* individuals in states that don't recognize gay marriage? It seems like the continuum of options are: (1) doesn't recognize the transition, you're still married; (2) recognizes the transition, you can't be married anymore (WTF); (3) recognizes the transition, you're still married. As distressing as the notion of the second one is, all three seem awkward in their own way. It really highlights how ridiculous it is to complicate marriage with gender at all, IMO.

As SallyNasty said, it's basically 1 and 3 in all cases. There are constraints on who is allowed to [em]get[/em] married, but once you're married, you're married. The only way out is to dissolve the marriage, and that doesn't happen automatically. I imagine that it could be made to happen automatically, but that would require a new law to be passed to specifically account for that case, which seems unlikely.

Goes to show, teh gays can't even ruin marriage right.

Clocky, I've long admired your activity in this community, your enthusiasm, your keen eye, your intellect, and your ability to articulate your position so delicately while also avoiding (m)any incendiary tendencies. Now add an insane and admirable bravery to the list. We all have hidden feelings, I think, about the past or others or about ourselves, but most people keep them inside. Know that your willingness to possibly struggle and sacrifice in this is an inspiration to this more cowardly soul. Thank you.

Clocky - never stop clocking. <3

Wigs came today! Good mood! Stream of consciousness:

a) Wigs are [em]neat![/em]

b) Whoooooa. It is weird to have hair after all these years, even if it's not my hair.

c) Hmm. Okay, I see how the lace-front one works. Will have to prioritize makeup skills to wear that one.. (There's a sort of flesh-toned screen bit in the front of these, with individual fibers tied through, to support hair styles that reveal the scalp near the hairline. You're meant to blend the "lace" with make-up to match your skin tone so it doesn't show. Also possibly trim the lace back a bit, which I'll consider once I see how the makeup works.)

d) Wow! I could totally have had my hair look like this one with my real hair, back when I had long hair. I'd just have needed some highlights and a little styling product. That would have been [em]awesome![/em]

e) ClockworkHouse would totally clock on this wig. But that's okay, that's just how she is.*

f) I'm glad I started with some relatively inexpensive wigs for getting used to. This is going to take work, but it's going to be super fun.

g) I should definitely order some more once I've done more cleaning and have room to store them properly.

h) Arrgh! Cleaning night, and I'm out of trash bags. Time to put the wigs away and go to the store.

i) Oh. My head isn't hot any more. Hair! It keeps your head warm! I remember that!

Now off to get some trash bags.

[size=8]* Actually, she probably wouldn't, but that was a funny thought I had later.[/size]

This is delightful. I'm excited for you.

Hypatian wrote:

Lots of wig-tasticness!

:)

This is a great thread to restore one's faith in humanity, reinforce my oft-expressed belief about how great a community this is...plus you never quite know what's coming next!

Stream of consciousness wigging FTW!

Radical Ans wrote:

Stream of consciousness wigging FTW!

Live tweet the next wig unboxing

Hypatian wrote:

Wigs came today! Good mood! Stream of consciousness

2 words: Anime Wig.

You know it makes sense.

Maq wrote:
Hypatian wrote:

Wigs came today! Good mood! Stream of consciousness

2 words: Anime Wig.

You know it makes sense.

You gotta have blue hair.

I'm all for wig unboxing videos, but if I see one frame of Hypation making duckface... we are going to have WORDS.