A personal announcement, emphatic thank-you, and cheers to Fedora.

This is rad. I love it. One more example of how this community is so *not* about games.

Congratulations to the both of you!

So, burning question. Even though gay, when sharing a hotel bed with a friend, is the "pillow of heterosexuality" used?

Chumpy_McChump wrote:
Rubb Ed wrote:

Y'know, contrary to popular belief, when someone comes out, a unicorn does not fart glitter. Just sayin'. ;)

Not cool, man. Next thing, you're going to tell me that girls don't have panty pillow fights when they're alone together...

Glitter must be a regional thing. Growing up, I was told that when someone came out, a unicorn farted showtunes.

Also: panty pillows sound terrifying.

KingGorilla wrote:

So, burning question. Even though gay, when sharing a hotel bed with a friend, is the "pillow of heterosexuality" used?

Actually, having shared a hotel bed twice with two different gay men with whom I wasn't in a relationship, the answer is "depends". Except at that point it's less a Pillow of Heterosexuality and more a pillow of Uh Uh You Ain't Gettin' Any Of This.

Nah, no unicorn farting showtunes. That's just the local gay men's chorus holding an impromptu rehearsal in that person's honor. (They kinda suck)

Cayne wrote:

"....mkay so?" And what was interesting is she took it exactly like i meant it, not as anything bad but more like "okay your gay and this affects my opinion of you how?"

Brennil wrote:

I sort of wish it wasn't, but every person who steps forward makes it easier for the next one. Witness this very thread!

Exactly. The world is now a step closer to "...mkay so?" being the universal response than it was.

And we're all putting the lie to some gamer stereotypes here. This is a community of people who play video games, and it's also a safe space to come out of the closet -- no, it's not all XBox kiddies out there!

Ironically, I'm wearing purple today at work in support of Spirit Day. (I won't be in the office the rest of the week, so I chose today instead.) You guys may not be LGBTQ youth, but that doesn't mean I'm not wearing this in support of you guys anyway.

On a side note: I don't know why but, I can't stop giggling at this sentence.

bandit0013 wrote:

Scorpion teleports slower than Raiden can superman.

Nothing to add other than another chorus of "Good for you guys!"

This community rules and you guys rule.

I don't have anything to say that hasn't been said over and over already, so good for both of you on feeling confident.

Keep on keepin' it real.

We should all be proud of who we are, after all, we're kind of stuck with ourselves for the rest of our life.

Congrats and best wishes to you both. Humanity is made better by your actions. Go Team Human!

I am very happy for you guys getting this off your chest. As far as I am concerned, you are both dudes who own me at every vidja game and Safarihat, you are a great road trip partner.

PS: In retrospect, I feel a little silly about my misogynistic rant on our drive back on Sunday. xD

I'm super happy and excited for both of you.

I'm constantly amazed how much of this community I consider "close friends" without even having had a conversation with. I'm happy to admit that I got teary-eyed here in the office reading your posts and their responses. I love this community and all of the people in it.

As for Mike, my thoughts mimicked dejanzie's (expecting an thread about "coming out" to your parents about your atheism). This add a whole different layer to the struggles you've been having. I can only imagine how difficult it's been for you struggling against your loss of faith and your sexuality, with the worry of losing your family for either or both reasons. I hope you know that you have the 100% support of this community behind you, and that isn't just empty words. If you ever need anything, for any reason, my door inbox chat window heart is always open. (That goes for you too Fedora! Also the rest of the community).

trichy wrote:

Four years ago, my brother came out to our family at Thanksgiving. There was a general outpouring of support from everyone, but I think my father made me the proudest. He said that Nephi was still his son, that he still loved him absolutely, and that he still didn't have enough mashed potatoes.

This reminded me of this video I saw about a month ago, of a soldier coming out to his father (and the world) via telephone from where he was stationed overseas. He was super nervous about how his father would respond. He made the call on the day that Don't Ask, Don't Tell was repealed.

This is that call:

Honored to be a member of a group like this. Proud of you, Mike and Fedora. Confused as to where all this dust came from.

Congrats Mike and Fedora!

This thread just fills me with hope and pride and smiles. Please do not hesitate if either of you want someone to talk to.

Today your life changed for the better, you should be proud.

Congrats to both of you!

Next step - getting it so you two can marry (to each other? Maybe not)

Wow, this thread is full of win.

Jeff-66 wrote:
trichy wrote:

Four years ago, my brother came out to our family at Thanksgiving. There was a general outpouring of support from everyone, but I think my father made me the proudest. He said that Nephi was still his son, that he still loved him absolutely, and that he still didn't have enough mashed potatoes.

This reminded me of this video I saw about a month ago, of a soldier coming out to his father (and the world) via telephone from where he was stationed overseas. He was super nervous about how his father would respond. He made the call on the day that Don't Ask, Don't Tell was repealed.

This is that call:

I love this video, and the fact that the only thing the alabama daddy reproaches his son for is for excessive drinking. Heartwarming:)

I haven't watched the vid where he tells his mother yet, but apparently she isn't as receptive.

Uh, well, we are 11 years apart in age I believe, and I'm 29, with Fedora being younger. So, no to your parenthetical.

interstate78 wrote:

Aww now my sig looks ironic or something

Well I still totally love you all in a non-gay way so the idea of it still fits

ELewis17 wrote:
ranalin wrote:

Maybe...just maybe... you wont be so grumpy?

This @ Fedora.
I have never known NSMike to be very grumpy.

Me? Grumpy?! Never! The noobs just need to get on my level

Luggage wrote:

PS: In retrospect, I feel a little silly about my misogynistic rant on our drive back on Sunday. xD

It was very entertaining

Coldstream wrote:

To be honest, it irritates me that this should even be an issue. Telling people that "I'm homosexual" should be about as shocking as telling people that "I have a thing for brunettes." I don't get it. I don't even think that any form of the word 'admission' should be used in this context, as it smacks of guilt. Maybe 'informing' is a better term.

That said, I know that there are enough bigots out there to make sure that it is an issue, and therefore it takes some courage to tell folks that you're homosexual. So as someone who is a member of the gay-straight alliance by virtue of being bewildered that anyone could have any issue with someone else's between one-or-more-consenting-adults sexuality, let me add my voice to the chorus of congratulations.

There is no freedom like the freedom of facing the world as one truly is and intends to be forevermore.

I tried to address this in my post but it's a very difficult thing to explain, as I still don't really understand it completely. It's not about (at least for me) being afraid of bigots or being disowned. Informing is certainly the better term. I honestly can't explain to you why it was such a difficult thing to do and why I feel relieved doing it because I really don't know.

Thanks to everybody else as well.

Have you guys told your family?

High fives all around. I dream of living in a world where sexual preference is insignificant enough that nobody would care whether someone were straight or gay, but we don't live in that world yet. So . . . double high fives all around.

SallyNasty wrote:

Have you guys told your family?

No. I'm going to start working my way down from the most likely to be accepting and supportive down to those hardest to tell, hopefully building some allies along the way.

Epic thread is epic.

NSMike wrote:
SallyNasty wrote:

Have you guys told your family?

No. I'm going to start working my way down from the most likely to be accepting and supportive down to those hardest to tell, hopefully building some allies along the way.

I wish you lots of luck and I hope you find more support than you thought would be there.

I'm happy that the decision to inform us happened here, in a place you feel safe. I know very little about either of you, but I got to know Mike a bit this weekend. I struggle with society having to place judgements on people because of who they want to be in a relationship with. I wish society would just be happy for folks who find each other in positive relationships and if they can't do that, I wish they'd just mind their own business. It is about the person inside, rather than the sexual preference they desire. I hope the road in front of you is smoothe, but know if it is not, you have many here that are there for you.

SallyNasty wrote:

Have you guys told your family?

I made the Facebook post, I don't know how many people have seen it but I've gotten 1 family reply from my sister.
I'm visiting my father next weekend (probably) so I will tell him then.