Space Sims/Strategy Games Catch-All

Yeah it has a thread and a demo. Had the demo installed for weeks but keep forgetting to try it. I guess today is the day.

They also have a lot of future updates and features planned. So think of the $5 as a great investment or a decent gamble.

Nightmare wrote:
hannibals wrote:

I've been wondering the same thing about Star Ruler. My favorite space based 4X game was MOO1. How will Star Ruler compare?

Anyway it's on sale for about another day.

It's quite a bit different. It is real time for one. There's a lot going on in it, so there's a pretty steep learning curve. The camera is wonky. But there's a lot of really good stuff in there if you give it a chance. It has grown on me quite a bit. The devs have really done a great job patching this up and adding a lot of nice features.

Star Ruler thread here

Yeah, I gave the demo a try. It felt rather complicated and I just wanted to get into some MOO style tactical combat. I miss the overall simplicity of MOO 1 with it's flat 2D galactic map and ability to administer entire star systems as a single unit. Perhaps it was a bit unrealistic, but the simpler economic model put the focus on the fun part of the game, building ships with fancier guns, blowing the AI's fleet to bits and conquering their systems.

Crap I forgot last night and missed the sale.

Hope it returns in the summer sale, if there is one this week.

Picked up Freespace 2 from GOG's Interplay sale and fired up some missions this weekend. Still looks and feels great but playing with a mouse is annoying. Going to have to try getting the old 15-pin CH Flightstick adapter'd up later this week and pray it works with Win7

My hard drive "died" (XP BSOD F4 03) so I had to start over on SPAZ .I raised the star number to 300 and now I have a much longer way to go to do the first mission. I was fairly advanced in the save game I lost (it was actually a 2nd game).

I this game I wasn't as afraid to run to attack stronger systems so I got fairly advanced really fast...

Spoiler:

I got Right Hook a Colt (3 overcharge laser + 2 reactor boosters on all 3 ships) really early so I'm tearing enemy ships apart quiet easily.

Irongut wrote:

I like the look of that Space Pirates and Zombies. They say they are negotiating with STEAM, and that would be perfect for me. I just want to keep my library consolidated if it works out.

You should just get it on Impulse . I think all Stardock games are exclusively published on impulse and the impulse version is more friendly than I thought. You don't have to log on or do the offline procedure to play offline. Impulse actually installed a shortcut to SPAZ on my program files so it's very convenient.

Things are changing and most games are now distributed online so it's a good idea to have a foot in all the shops. I agree that the marketing pop ups can be annoying but game deals is something I'm really interested in so I didn't turn it off. I've bought two games on dual layer discs and and had a lot of trouble installing them. I managed to use a work around on Fallout3 (it was just crazy) and . In Sims 3 I used EA's shop to download a digital copy. I am probably not going to buy a PC game on a physical media ever again.

Niseg wrote:
Irongut wrote:

I like the look of that Space Pirates and Zombies. They say they are negotiating with STEAM, and that would be perfect for me. I just want to keep my library consolidated if it works out.

You should just get it on Impulse . I think all Stardock games are exclusively published on impulse and the impulse version is more friendly than I thought. You don't have to log on or do the offline procedure to play offline. Impulse actually installed a shortcut to SPAZ on my program files so it's very convenient.

Or just buy it direct for the developers, in this case.

Yeah it's up from the developers and also on gamersgate. Whatever you do don't give Impulse/Gamestop money.

Did anyone buy directly from the developers? How are they handling the updates?

I bought it from them, played it a while, haven't checked into updates yet.

The only downside of buying from the developers would be the additional piece of information you need to keep track of. But you could always buy from Gamersgate.

hannibals wrote:

The only downside of buying from the developers would be the additional piece of information you need to keep track of. But you could always buy from Gamersgate.

GamersGate doesn't do automatic updates, I don't think. I think Steam and Impulse are currently the best services (that I've used) for keeping games up to date. D2D's Comrade service can also track updates, but I hate that program and I don't know if SPAZ is on there yet.

A lot of games have in-game update checks these days. Not sure about SPAZ though.

ebarstad wrote:
hannibals wrote:

The only downside of buying from the developers would be the additional piece of information you need to keep track of. But you could always buy from Gamersgate.

GamersGate doesn't do automatic updates, I don't think. I think Steam and Impulse are currently the best services (that I've used) for keeping games up to date. D2D's Comrade service can also track updates, but I hate that program and I don't know if SPAZ is on there yet.

I don't see how they could if their games are all downloaded from the web. It sounds like you'd have to log into gamersgate.com every time a new version is out, download and run the installer or patch.

hannibals wrote:
ebarstad wrote:
hannibals wrote:

The only downside of buying from the developers would be the additional piece of information you need to keep track of. But you could always buy from Gamersgate.

GamersGate doesn't do automatic updates, I don't think. I think Steam and Impulse are currently the best services (that I've used) for keeping games up to date. D2D's Comrade service can also track updates, but I hate that program and I don't know if SPAZ is on there yet.

I don't see how they could if their games are all downloaded from the web. It sounds like you'd have to log into gamersgate.com every time a new version is out, download and run the installer or patch.

No need to download the patch from GamersGate itself. Any source works, as if you had the game from a CD.

That can be an advantage too in same cases where you're trying to run a mod that is relies on using an older version of the game (like with Warband). Does Gamersgate keep the older version of the game around as the primary download with patches as separate downloads?

Niseg wrote:

I got Darkstar One more than a year ago on steam I don't think it cost much . I eventually got stuck where everyone get stuck and gave it up. I think X3 is much better once you get the hang of it. The learning curve on X3 is steeper but there is a lot of freedom in the game..

There is going to be an X series game coming out in q4 this year called X-Rebirth . There isn't a whole lot of info about it considering the fact it's due to be released soon.

X3 Gold happens to be $12.49 while Darkstar One is $2.49 for the Steam summer sale. I'm not sure how much time I'll actually spend playing X3, but I suppose I can just play it AFK once things are set up and see how things develop.

Don't waste your money on Gold. Terran Conflict is all anyone should play and right now it's cheaper than Gold.

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garion333 wrote:

Don't waste your money on Gold. Terran Conflict is all anyone should play and right now it's cheaper than Gold.

Aha, thanks for the tip. I suppose I wouldn't have time to go back and play Reunion anyway.

By the way, if you like SPAZ/Starcon 2 style space combat, Starscape offers some fun gameplay. The mouse isn't supported for aiming though, so playing with a controller would probably be easier.

AI War is the Sale of the Day on Steam. Main game plus 3 expansions for $4.50. 85% off beats the meta critic score of 80%. And the only reason it gets an 80% is because graphics whores are gonna whine about graphics. It's a good game. Buy it!

Main game + expansions for $4.50 is criminal. If you're the type of person that clicked on the title of this thread then your next click should be over to Steam.

hiho guys,
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str wrote:

hiho guys,
there is a new version of 10min Space Strategy game (it's still free), go and download it: http://goblinlunatics.blogspot.com

Quoting you for linkage.

thank you Stele

Michael wrote:

Main game + expansions for $4.50 is criminal. If you're the type of person that clicked on the title of this thread then your next click should be over to Steam.

I've been looking at AI War for a month or more and I just can't bring myself to buy it. It look interesting but then I see videos of 5 bajillion triangles swarming around 5 bajillion other triangles and it just makes my eyes cross. I tend to prefer games with smaller scale skirmishes where maybe a dozen ships are fighting another dozen ships, that way I can keep track of everything and actually give orders to everyone if needed. More of a tactical experience, I guess?

AI War just looks like one of the games where you churn out as many ships as you possibly can and then tell them all to go swarm a target and blow it up. Is that the wrong impression?

Michael wrote:

Yes and no. Yes, there a bajillion ships at any given time. No, in the sense that if you try the traditional RTS blob of doom the AI will crush and destroy you. You have to use both strategy and tactics to succeed.

I'm still learning the game, but I get the impression that there are many useful keyboard commands and shortcuts to help you do the tactics thing well. e.g. - select all ships on the map of type X, and all Y, move here, attack this, etc.

Yes and no. Yes, there a bajillion ships at any given time. No, in the sense that if you try the traditional RTS blob of doom the AI will crush and destroy you. You have to use both strategy and tactics to succeed.

The games aren't neat little tactical packages, but rather sprawling, war-on-many-fronts affairs that will have you all over the place by the endgame.

Mixolyde wrote:
Michael wrote:

Yes and no. Yes, there a bajillion ships at any given time. No, in the sense that if you try the traditional RTS blob of doom the AI will crush and destroy you. You have to use both strategy and tactics to succeed.

I'm still learning the game, but I get the impression that there are many useful keyboard commands and shortcuts to help you do the tactics thing well. e.g. - select all ships on the map of type X, and all Y, move here, attack this, etc.

Yes, so much yes. Look into attack move and free roaming defend move. Those are key. Also check out the ingame settings to set your ships' default behavior.

Also I think I mentioned it earlier in the thread, but enabling "TBS friendly pause" lets you issue commands while paused and making life much more manageable. I mapped it to the space bar a al Paradox games.