Space Sims/Strategy Games Catch-All

That was fun. Not really 10 minutes, but definitely fun.

Wait. Does Sins need to use Games for Windows Live to work? Or is it just a Games for Windows game?

SoaSE, thank heavens, does not use GFWL.

I enjoyed what I played of Black Prophecy. Cool graphics, good flight mechanics and satisfying shooting.

For me personally, it got a bit grindy, but I'm not an MMO guy.

Sometimes, you just want to shoot some dudes, you know? When Black Prophecy comes to Asia, I'm totally gettin' on that train.

I found Black Prophecy's controls to be really flakey on a joystick. I think it's because the crosshair isn't locked in the center of the screen which makes aiming and shooting a royal pain in the ass. This was an older build though, they may have fixed it by now.

Black Prophecy is in open beta for North America.
I'm already level 3. Have not played PvP yet.
God it feels good to use a joystick in a game that actually does it right.
You play enough games that don't know what the f*ck to do with a joystick and you think you've gone nuts.
You can also use a mouse and I advise doing so anytime you are in a turret.
Also, you can strafe(left and right and up and down). It's the most fun flying a space craft I've had yet.
It is not true newtonian, but only because ships have max speeds I think.
The radar display however, is very very tiny.
But it's a 3d sphere and they did it very well, but right now it's only good for figuring out which direction you should fly to get to a mob.
The weapon variety seems very good. I'm going mostly for energy weapons cause I want beams, glorious beams, but they also have long-range sniper weapons so maybe I'll get to combine my two favorite loves (sniping and space sim combat) in one game.
I'm very excited so maybe I should go to bed now.

Sinatar wrote:

I found Black Prophecy's controls to be really flakey on a joystick. I think it's because the crosshair isn't locked in the center of the screen which makes aiming and shooting a royal pain in the ass. This was an older build though, they may have fixed it by now.

You can fix the crosshairs now, for both mouse and joystick.
Mouse aiming is incredibly easy. I fear entering pvp.

GOG are having a promo at the moment which includes Freespace and Freespace 2 for $2.99 each.

I'm also playing Black Prophecy, and from what I've seen so far I'm pretty excited. The level of polish it has is impressive.

jam3 wrote:

I play an obscene amount of SotS if anyone ever want to do co-op or vs.

How enjoyable is co-op SotS? Is it basically players vs the bots and if so, are the bots challenging and fun?

hannibals wrote:
jam3 wrote:

I play an obscene amount of SotS if anyone ever want to do co-op or vs.

How enjoyable is co-op SotS? Is it basically players vs the bots and if so, are the bots challenging and fun?

We've played both ways. For us, it really depends on the number of players that would show up on Saturdays, but we had loads of fun whether we were playing vs computers or vs players. To your point, though, playing against computers is still a quite a bit of fun but they end up becoming quite predictable toward the end, so we switched to more of a players vs player with a few computers thrown in to keep things interesting.

Xeknos, are you talking about Sins or Sword of the Stars? I hate the acronyms for those games as they're way confusing. You say "saturdays" and I think of Sins.

Might give Black Prophecy a go...don't shoot me if you meet me !

garion333 wrote:

Xeknos, are you talking about Sins or Sword of the Stars? I hate the acronyms for those games as they're way confusing. You say "saturdays" and I think of Sins.

Sorry, I meant Sins. Which should have been SoaSE.

I just hurriedly skimmed this thread (sorry): Are there any suggestions/recommendations for the Mac? I've been craving a 4x to truck around on my Mactop but haven't had any luck in tracking anything down. Mainly, I've been sticking to DF, which is not in space.

AI: War is available for Mac, as is Gratuitous Space Battles. I know AI: War is a bit more 4X-esque, but I prefer GSB. I'd take a look at those two and see if either strikes your fancy.

I like the look of that Space Pirates and Zombies. They say they are negotiating with STEAM, and that would be perfect for me. I just want to keep my library consolidated if it works out.

I have Distant Worlds and its expansion collecting dust. I should give it another go in the meantime.

Ai in sword of the stars is pretty good. I haven't done alot of multi so I'd suggest co-op, it would definetly be a multi-session thing.

Mister Magnus wrote:

I just hurriedly skimmed this thread (sorry): Are there any suggestions/recommendations for the Mac? I've been craving a 4x to truck around on my Mactop but haven't had any luck in tracking anything down. Mainly, I've been sticking to DF, which is not in space.

X3:Terran Conflict has a Mac version. It's available on GamersGate and Direct2Drive, but not Steam. So it's expensive.

Mister Magnus wrote:

I just hurriedly skimmed this thread (sorry): Are there any suggestions/recommendations for the Mac? I've been craving a 4x to truck around on my Mactop but haven't had any luck in tracking anything down. Mainly, I've been sticking to DF, which is not in space.

MOO2 - which is still the standard for me - runs great in DOSBox. That said, I'm not sure which version GOG is selling - if it's the Win95 version, it won't work.

I think the GOG MOO2 is indeed the Win95 version. It didn't run very well for me, so I ended up falling back to the old DOS version I downloaded years and years ago.

DOSBox runs nicely on the Mac. I think you can feel virtuous and ethical if you buy the GOG copy, and then get the DOS flavor off The Pirate Bay or something.

The GoG version of MOO2 contains both the DOS and Win95 executable. The shortcut it creates on installation runs the DOS version using DOSBox.

Thanks a lot guys. That gives me about 10X more to look at than I come across on my own.

I hadn't heard about DOSBox until now but a quick run on the Googles hooked me up with the info.

The first suggestion I peeked at was GSB and that sounds like something I could wholeheartedly get behind, even if it's not 4x. Mainly, I'm just not into RTSs and it seems like there's an awful lotta that in space.

Do most games at GOG provide a DOS version when available? DOS versions seem pretty much foolproof if you can get DOSBox configured (which isn't that hard), while Windows versions of old games like X-Com can cause all kinds of grief when they clash with the newer versions of Windows.

DOS games from GoG come with DOSBox already configured to run the game as part of the installation. Works great and, if you know how to, you can tweek the conf files. And yes, most GoG games are DOS games or come with the DOS version if available.

Star ruler on for $5 bucks at steam.

Did anyone get around to playing this ?

Star Ruler is $5
I love Sins and GSB, but never devoted enough time to SotS, will I like Star Ruler?

Edit: Tannhauser'd!

I've been wondering the same thing about Star Ruler. My favorite space based 4X game was MOO1. How will Star Ruler compare?

Anyway it's on sale for about another day.

hannibals wrote:

I've been wondering the same thing about Star Ruler. My favorite space based 4X game was MOO1. How will Star Ruler compare?

Anyway it's on sale for about another day.

"Nothing compares, nothing compares to MOO" /Sinead O'Connor

hannibals wrote:

I've been wondering the same thing about Star Ruler. My favorite space based 4X game was MOO1. How will Star Ruler compare?

Anyway it's on sale for about another day.

It's quite a bit different. It is real time for one. There's a lot going on in it, so there's a pretty steep learning curve. The camera is wonky. But there's a lot of really good stuff in there if you give it a chance. It has grown on me quite a bit. The devs have really done a great job patching this up and adding a lot of nice features.

Star Ruler thread here