Windows Phone 7/8 Catch All

EvilHomer3k wrote:

Thanks, Kurrelgyre. Can you still manage podcasts on the device, itself? Another question. Can you create playlists on the phone?

It's able to manage podcasts found in the Store almost as well as the Zune software used to: on-device subscribe/unsusbscribe options for keeping the oldest/newest 1-5 episodes, or all of them. Presumably there are also 3rd party podcast catchers in the store. While I find that I can create playlists on the phone, so far that's basing them on entire albums rather than single tracks, and then I can't tell how to rename them, add or remove tracks to/from them, or really do much of anything other than delete them. For that I expect they want you to use the desktop/metro applications.

I'm currently stuck trying to do something which should be simple: syncing a playlist containing an album I ripped from a CD I bought this week which can not be found in their Store. I can use the sync tool to transfer the tracks, and the Xbox Music metro app has a playlist containing them that plays fine on the computer, but the sync tool doesn't see the cloud playlist and once it's done transferring the tracks the phone shows the new playlist as containing zero songs (which happened earlier when I tried to import my Zune playlists and then transfer them with the tool). I might have to use Windows Media Player for this task.

Incidentally, the Nokia phones come with Nokia Music, a pretty nice radio service that's completely free to device owners (data usage charges still apply) that seems to offer some offline support as well. It's very much like the Slacker "Radio Plus" service in that regard.

EDIT: Seems there are limits to track skipping in Nokia Music, so not quite like most paid streaming services. And just like on the Samsung, the earpod play/pause button works with the Lumia, but not the volume control.

Jayhawker wrote:
tuffalobuffalo wrote:

When browsing GWJ on WP8, does clicking on an "X number of recent posts" actually take you to the recent post or does it just take you to the top of the page like the stupid WP7 internet browser?

Biggest pet peeve I'm hoping will be fixed. Its not just GWJ, but all forums.

I'm quoting this question to the new page so that it will hopefully get answered.

I'll answer the question when mine arrives. I ordered last week, but it still shows as 'in process' - so I guess I picked a backordered color (Yellow). No ETA on when it will arrive.

tuffalobuffalo wrote:
Jayhawker wrote:
tuffalobuffalo wrote:

When browsing GWJ on WP8, does clicking on an "X number of recent posts" actually take you to the recent post or does it just take you to the top of the page like the stupid WP7 internet browser?

Biggest pet peeve I'm hoping will be fixed. Its not just GWJ, but all forums.

I'm quoting this question to the new page so that it will hopefully get answered.

I ended up not getting my HTC 8x until last Wednesday (the 21st) despite the fact that it was supposed to ship on the 13th. All matter of weird shipping glitches in the Verizon system apparently that require multiple calls to support to resolve. I'll give Verizon some credit, they did give me a $40 credit on my bill (after failing to placate me by offering a discount on a case).

Anyway, have the phone and love it. I've found almost nothing in the app store that interests me, but I really didn't get it for that. As a means to keep up with email, check twitter/facebook, and send some texts and pictures around, it's aces. I particularly like how well it integrates all those disparate contacts together in one place.

On the GWJ forum question, I'm not sure I'm answering the right question, but when I find a forum thread I've been to previously and click the "xxx new" link to go straight to the posts I haven't yet seen, it goes to that point in the thread with no issues, just like using a desktop browser.

My Nokia 920 gets hot.. like weirdly hot just sitting around idle... doesnt seem to affect it..other than its hot.

ubrakto wrote:

On the GWJ forum question, I'm not sure I'm answering the right question, but when I find a forum thread I've been to previously and click the "xxx new" link to go straight to the posts I haven't yet seen, it goes to that point in the thread with no issues, just like using a desktop browser.

Thanks for answering!!! Yeah, that's how it should work. IE on WP7 takes you to the top of the frickin page when you click on those. Well, at least they fixed it for WP8. Good to know.

ubrakto wrote:

On the GWJ forum question, I'm not sure I'm answering the right question, but when I find a forum thread I've been to previously and click the "xxx new" link to go straight to the posts I haven't yet seen, it goes to that point in the thread with no issues, just like using a desktop browser.

Yay!

That's exactly what we have been hoping for. Currently, IE on WP7 goes to the right page, but always to the top. You have to scroll down to find the posts you haven't read. And it is that way on all the forums I read.

I'm surprised they never fixed it, but it will be nice when I upgrade in January.

Anyway, have the phone and love it. I've found almost nothing in the app store that interests me, but I really didn't get for that. As a means to keep up with email, check twitter/facebook, send some texts and pictures around, it's aces.

This is pretty much how I am with phones. I rarely download much at all, and what I want is a package that does all that stuff you mentioned as seamless as possible, and in a consistent look and feel.

The way WP7 handled podcasts is pretty much exactly what I want. I hated that on Android I had to pay $$$ to find a good podcast app, and then it didn't work as seamlessly as the WP7 software allowed.

I'm glad you are enjoying the phone, and I'm anxious to hear more impressions.

Add me to the list of people who don't want an app for that. I just want the damn thing to do it out of the box, nice and easy.

Any word on when WP 7.8 will be rolling out? I doubt I'll be able to upgrade my now-destroyed phone but will likely replace it with a WP 7 device because I like them so much.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

Add me to the list of people who don't want an app for that. I just want the damn thing to do it out of the box, nice and easy.

Any word on when WP 7.8 will be rolling out? I doubt I'll be able to upgrade my now-destroyed phone but will likely replace it with a WP 7 device because I like them so much.

I'm upgrading to a WP8 phone inb January and will have an LG Quantum to get rid of. Not sure when you will need one or when you might upgrade to WP8.

ubrakto wrote:
tuffalobuffalo wrote:
Jayhawker wrote:
tuffalobuffalo wrote:

When browsing GWJ on WP8, does clicking on an "X number of recent posts" actually take you to the recent post or does it just take you to the top of the page like the stupid WP7 internet browser?

Biggest pet peeve I'm hoping will be fixed. Its not just GWJ, but all forums.

I'm quoting this question to the new page so that it will hopefully get answered.

I ended up not getting my HTC 8x until last Wednesday (the 21st) despite the fact that it was supposed to ship on the 13th. All matter of weird shipping glitches in the Verizon system apparently that require multiple calls to support to resolve. I'll give Verizon some credit, they did give me a $40 credit on my bill (after failing to placate me by offering a discount on a case).

Anyway, have the phone and love it. I've found almost nothing in the app store that interests me, but I really didn't get it for that. As a means to keep up with email, check twitter/facebook, and send some texts and pictures around, it's aces. I particularly like how well it integrates all those disparate contacts together in one place.

On the GWJ forum question, I'm not sure I'm answering the right question, but when I find a forum thread I've been to previously and click the "xxx new" link to go straight to the posts I haven't yet seen, it goes to that point in the thread with no issues, just like using a desktop browser.

I love linking contacts. It is a great example of something WP does extremely well that no one else does (but should). Have you set up groups, yet? That's another example of something WP does extremely well.

TheGameguru wrote:

My Nokia 920 gets hot.. like weirdly hot just sitting around idle... doesnt seem to affect it..other than its hot.

So here's a question for you: How's your battery life?

My girlfriend has a dying BlackBerry 9700 she's been itching to replace and we went phone shopping for her a couple weekends ago. She's looking at the 920 because she's a photo buff, wants the best camera available and is not interested in an iPhone. Even though they likely paid a bunch for Canadian exclusivity, no Rogers Wireless retailer had live demo units of the 920. My girlfriend played around with a live Windows Phone 7 device and didn't get good impressions from the OS but ended up trying a Galaxy S3 instead. Rogers has a 15 day return policy so she got one but it now considering returning it because she doesn't like some of the OS stuff (mostly due to TouchWiz I think) and the S3's camera is quite underwhelming. She's looked at 920 reviews and the two complaints most seem to levy is weight and poor battery life. She doesn't care about the weight but battery life's a big deal to her. Is yours able to make it through the day?

Does anyone use google voice with their WP7/8 phone? Since we are switching providers I think now may be a good time to move to google voice. It seems like it would be hit and miss and may be a pain so I wanted to see if anyone was doing it.

Parallax Abstraction wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:

My Nokia 920 gets hot.. like weirdly hot just sitting around idle... doesnt seem to affect it..other than its hot.

So here's a question for you: How's your battery life?

My girlfriend has a dying BlackBerry 9700 she's been itching to replace and we went phone shopping for her a couple weekends ago. She's looking at the 920 because she's a photo buff, wants the best camera available and is not interested in an iPhone. Even though they likely paid a bunch for Canadian exclusivity, no Rogers Wireless retailer had live demo units of the 920. My girlfriend played around with a live Windows Phone 7 device and didn't get good impressions from the OS but ended up trying a Galaxy S3 instead. Rogers has a 15 day return policy so she got one but it now considering returning it because she doesn't like some of the OS stuff (mostly due to TouchWiz I think) and the S3's camera is quite underwhelming. She's looked at 920 reviews and the two complaints most seem to levy is weight and poor battery life. She doesn't care about the weight but battery life's a big deal to her. Is yours able to make it through the day?

Battery life is not great.. certainly don't get this if Battery Life is important.. I have a handy charger for day to day charging in my office because if I don't by 5pm if I look at my 920 its almost dead.. god forbid if I had a late night and was at a dinner meeting or something.. I'd be SoL. I love the phone.. I think WinMo 8 is the best mobile OS around.. but for whatever reason this 920 runs hot.. and the battery life is probably one of the worst ever of all the phones I've owned. Maybe the 820 is a better choice? I havent read reviews of that in detail but perhaps the battery life is better on that unit?

I'm still hopeful a software update fixes the issue somehow.

EvilHomer3k wrote:

Does anyone use google voice with their WP7/8 phone? Since we are switching providers I think now may be a good time to move to google voice. It seems like it would be hit and miss and may be a pain so I wanted to see if anyone was doing it.

Be curious too - at least for voicemail. A bit of googling a few days ago seemed to indicate it was possible, but my HTC 8X arrives tomorrow so can't try yet.

For what it's worth, I haven't noticed any heat issues with the 8x. I played Tetris (sad, I know, but I still find that cathartic when I'm killing time) for about 40 minutes straight and never noticed any heat coming off the device. Only a handful of phone calls, none more than 10-15 minutes, but haven't noticed heat from those either.

Battery life is horrible to my eye, but I've been using a dumbphone for forever and am used to only needing to charge every 3-4 days. Although I am getting through every day on a single charge, I do have to charge every night, which is a pain but an expected one - granted, I'm using this phone for random sh*t a lot more than I did my old one. I was surprised not to get a wireless charging pad with my phone as I thought that was supposed to be included in Verizon orders. Maybe I got that wrong? Will probably call them up just to check.

I love linking contacts. It is a great example of something WP does extremely well that no one else does (but should). Have you set up groups, yet? That's another example of something WP does extremely well.

The linking contacts thing is wonderful and nearly all of that work is done for you automatically. Since I was unable to back up contacts off my old phone, it also saved me a ton of time in data entry being able to plug phone numbers into the People app records on my Win8 desktop and have them automatically sync down to my phone.

The way WP7 handled podcasts is pretty much exactly what I want. I hated that on Android I had to pay $$$ to find a good podcast app, and then it didn't work as seamlessly as the WP7 software allowed.

I have barely touched the podcast feature on this phone just because I still use my iPod Classic in my car w/an iPod only FM transmitter. God I need a radio with an aux jack or USB port.

For those with kids that like to play with gadgets (read: all of them), the Kid's Corner feature is also aces. You enable a lock screen code for your phone and then set up a separate area accessible from the Lock screen that, when opened, contains only the apps and features you want your kids to be able to access and nothing more. It's a great way to ensure they can mess around without making calls, sending accidental texts, messing with contacts, etc.

Last thing, I have a co-worker who's had WP7 for the last year and WP8's addition of three tile sizes makes a huge difference for organizing the main screen. I've spent as much time playing around with optimal screen layouts the past week as I have doing anything else and have settled into a layout that I'm very, very happy with. I love that aspect of the OS.

TheGameguru wrote:
Parallax Abstraction wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:

My Nokia 920 gets hot.. like weirdly hot just sitting around idle... doesnt seem to affect it..other than its hot.

So here's a question for you: How's your battery life?

My girlfriend has a dying BlackBerry 9700 she's been itching to replace and we went phone shopping for her a couple weekends ago. She's looking at the 920 because she's a photo buff, wants the best camera available and is not interested in an iPhone. Even though they likely paid a bunch for Canadian exclusivity, no Rogers Wireless retailer had live demo units of the 920. My girlfriend played around with a live Windows Phone 7 device and didn't get good impressions from the OS but ended up trying a Galaxy S3 instead. Rogers has a 15 day return policy so she got one but it now considering returning it because she doesn't like some of the OS stuff (mostly due to TouchWiz I think) and the S3's camera is quite underwhelming. She's looked at 920 reviews and the two complaints most seem to levy is weight and poor battery life. She doesn't care about the weight but battery life's a big deal to her. Is yours able to make it through the day?

Battery life is not great.. certainly don't get this if Battery Life is important.. I have a handy charger for day to day charging in my office because if I don't by 5pm if I look at my 920 its almost dead.. god forbid if I had a late night and was at a dinner meeting or something.. I'd be SoL. I love the phone.. I think WinMo 8 is the best mobile OS around.. but for whatever reason this 920 runs hot.. and the battery life is probably one of the worst ever of all the phones I've owned. Maybe the 820 is a better choice? I havent read reviews of that in detail but perhaps the battery life is better on that unit?

I'm still hopeful a software update fixes the issue somehow.

Too bad about the battery life. One thing to note is that I have a Dell Venue Pro (WP7) and the battery still lasts several hours after the low battery warning comes up (with battery saver enabled). It can come on at night before I go to bed and will last until the morning (granted I'm not using it during that time). If it comes on during the day it will still last a few hours with basic use (texting, calls, and a few minutes of gaming). Overall, I've been impressed with how long it lasts after the battery saver icon comes up. Guru, do you have battery saver enabled? (assuming it is a feature of WP8). My biggest battery drain on my phone is the kids playing games. That eats through the battery in about 2 hours.

Parallax Abstraction wrote:

Hey GG, potential suggestion for you regarding heat and battery: Is your GPS constantly on? My girlfriend was just reading another review that said the 920 defaults to leaving GPS on at all times which causes among other things, poor battery life and heat issues. You can apparently either turn it off or set it to only turn on when needed and when you do that, apparently the 920 gets some of the best battery life of any current smartphone. I don't have a link right now but that's what she read. Maybe a solution for you?

And probably wireless too. I know that kills my phone if I don't pay attention.

Hey GG, potential suggestion for you regarding heat and battery: Is your GPS constantly on? My girlfriend was just reading another review that said the 920 defaults to leaving GPS on at all times which causes among other things, poor battery life and heat issues. You can apparently either turn it off or set it to only turn on when needed and when you do that, apparently the 920 gets some of the best battery life of any current smartphone. If true, it appears most of the reviewers in the tech press didn't bother to check into this before slamming it for poor battery life (shocking). I don't have a link right now but that's what she read. Maybe a solution for you?

EDIT: Link. Brace your eyes. Dat site skin!

TheGameguru wrote:
Parallax Abstraction wrote:

Hey GG, potential suggestion for you regarding heat and battery: Is your GPS constantly on? My girlfriend was just reading another review that said the 920 defaults to leaving GPS on at all times which causes among other things, poor battery life and heat issues. You can apparently either turn it off or set it to only turn on when needed and when you do that, apparently the 920 gets some of the best battery life of any current smartphone. If true, it appears most of the reviewers in the tech press didn't bother to check into this before slamming it for poor battery life (shocking). I don't have a link right now but that's what she read. Maybe a solution for you?

EDIT: Link. Brace your eyes. Dat site skin!

I only see Location Services in terms of GPS..and I kinda want that on.. having to turn it on everytime I use a location aware app is kinda useless.. especially with Scout..which I love. There is no option to use "as needed" from what I can tell.. but I will google some more and see if I can figure it out.

Wifi and Bluetooth are off.. so we'll see if its better that way.. I'm used to leaving wifi on during the day just to emulate my iPhone experience..

Guru, do you have battery saver enabled? (assuming it is a feature of WP8).

I do not..manually sync of email is not an option for me.. I need it to be push.

Turning off my wireless caused my phone to go from 8 hours till death to > 36 (granted I don't have the phone you do but the theory is sound!) so that should make a decent difference

Parallax Abstraction wrote:

Hey GG, potential suggestion for you regarding heat and battery: Is your GPS constantly on? My girlfriend was just reading another review that said the 920 defaults to leaving GPS on at all times which causes among other things, poor battery life and heat issues. You can apparently either turn it off or set it to only turn on when needed and when you do that, apparently the 920 gets some of the best battery life of any current smartphone. If true, it appears most of the reviewers in the tech press didn't bother to check into this before slamming it for poor battery life (shocking). I don't have a link right now but that's what she read. Maybe a solution for you?

EDIT: Link. Brace your eyes. Dat site skin!

I only see Location Services in terms of GPS..and I kinda want that on.. having to turn it on everytime I use a location aware app is kinda useless.. especially with Scout..which I love. There is no option to use "as needed" from what I can tell.. but I will google some more and see if I can figure it out.

Wifi and Bluetooth are off.. so we'll see if its better that way.. I'm used to leaving wifi on during the day just to emulate my iPhone experience..

edit

I read the link..

GPS IS EVIL: now there is a big caveat to the battery life, and that’s true for every Windows Phone 8 handset we had in our hands: **you need to turns the location OFF**, or the device will leave the GPS unit ON, which depletes the battery VERY quickly.

Microsoft needs to change this. When you setup the device, the OS asks if you want to let apps access your location. If you say “yes”, it will turn the GPS ON, and leave it ON, even if no app is actually asking for the location data.

This is not optimal and this will lead to having a bunch of customers complain about the battery life. GPS should be turned ON and OFF as applications ask for location data. Location data access should also be approved on a per-app basis, and not system-wide. With the GPS OFF, the Nokia battery management is impressive.

Agreed.. and this is something Microsoft needs to fix..since as it stands (I just tested it) when you turn Location Services OFF under Settings.. and then go to a location based app (like Local Sout) it doesnt enable Location for the duration of the App and then turn it off again.. it simply tells you that Location Services are OFF and please go to settings to Enable them.. and shuts the app down. So yeah.. its kinda a non starter.. I need to keep them ON or manually turn them off and on as needed.. which is not reality.

Guru, do you have battery saver enabled? (assuming it is a feature of WP8).

I do not..manually sync of email is not an option for me.. I need it to be push.

Battery saver only comes on when the battery is nearly dead. It works well for me and I don't manually get emails despite it saying you have to manually get them. Email still comes in but I don't think it is push so if you have to have push then it may not be useful. I checked my phone and GPS is on. I don't think wi-fi is on constantly but I don't see an icon on the bar at the top for it and can't seem to get one to come up. Again, this is WP7.

Turned off wifi.. left Location Services on... so far so good..phone is cool and battery life is excellent..80%+ and its 2pm

this blog post might shed some light on the battery issues as well and steps to try:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/cjacks/archive/2012/11/27/troubleshooting-my-battery-life-issues-on-the-nokia-lumia-920.aspx

EvilHomer3k wrote:

I love linking contacts. It is a great example of something WP does extremely well that no one else does (but should). Have you set up groups, yet? That's another example of something WP does extremely well.

Android has supported linking contacts since Gingerbread or so... is there something I'm missing about what WP does?

General Crespin wrote:
EvilHomer3k wrote:

I love linking contacts. It is a great example of something WP does extremely well that no one else does (but should). Have you set up groups, yet? That's another example of something WP does extremely well.

Android has supported linking contacts since Gingerbread or so... is there something I'm missing about what WP does?

iOS also allows contact linking, though I agree WP handles it more elegantly (automatically in many cases). The 'People' hub is just great in general.

General Crespin wrote:
EvilHomer3k wrote:

I love linking contacts. It is a great example of something WP does extremely well that no one else does (but should). Have you set up groups, yet? That's another example of something WP does extremely well.

Android has supported linking contacts since Gingerbread or so... is there something I'm missing about what WP does?

Does Android allow you to link completely disparate accounts? For example. I have a hotmail account for my wife that has separate information from the facebook account. The emails are not the same. I can connect those two together and it will merge them (on the phone) so they appear as one. I also have some phone numbers for people on the sim card in my phone. I can link those to facebook, twitter, or email accounts. Again, there isn't any common email, name, or phone number but the os allows me to say this one is linked to that one and it makes them work as one contact.

Yes. It will try to predict which contacts should be linked based on any matching or similar info, it's reasonably accurate in my experience. Sense will do this automatically IIRC, Tanglebones, any knowledge there?

After all that you can still link any contact to any other contact as you so desire.

The Android 4 People app is really pretty slick. I don't like how displaying lists of contacts from various accounts feels kludgey, but the way individual contacts works is very satisfying for me.

I got my Yellow Lumia 920 over the weekend. So far I'm really impressed with it - especially speed, photos/videos, display, battery life, the Start Screen/tiles, and Kids Korner. My biggest disappointments are the Facebook app (though the system-level FB integration is great), and the lack of a Spotify app. Both of those will be remedied at some point I'm sure. So far I haven't missed my iPhone.

While it isn't spotify, XBox Music is pretty damn awesome. It is well integrated into the system and I absolutely love it.

Did you get one of the free wireless charging pads?

EvilHomer3k wrote:

Did you get one of the free wireless charging pads?

Mine has arrived, yes. Aside from a larger than expected wall-wort, it's basically what I expected: a slab that charges the phone.