I don't even know where to begin. I just had the most racist and xenophobic conversation I've ever had in my life. There were four of us. Myself, two friends and "Guy A".
I've known my two friends for a while now but never thought that they harboured feelings and thoughts like this but Guy A just seemed to bring them out. He is a friend of one of my friends and he was unapologetically abrasive and racist; justified through "if they're racist to white people then I can be racist back - nothing personal! They all say nigga to each other so why can't I say it to them?!"
We went back and forth over various topics, "no go" cities like "London and New York" for white people, immigrants, intelligence, evolution.... me saying that the problems in Africa are mostly western nations' fault.... all sickening ridiculousnesses to my sensibilities. I don't know London that well or New York at all but it doesn't surprise me there are streets you avoid for all cultures.... but they were so extreme in their fervour. Eventually we got down to "all the intelligent people moved out of Africa - it's evolution" and "they all try and escape over here but they make it as sh*t as it is over there - they're animals" to "they do illegal stuff over here but get off with it because they don't know any better...".
It was pretty much at that point in the conversation that I left (after about an hour and a half of this crap). They said I was naive, unknowledgeable etc. there was no way to convince them of other viewpoints.... They confused genetic evolution with social change, they did not believe that people can be anything other than what their nature allows... and thus we were better than them and more right.
Right before I left Guy A trotted out that they were mostly (or was it all) Muslims and that you all saw black guys with pregnant women and that you'd have a muslim nation in a few years instead of the one we have now. My quite friend, who is young and who had largely not been involved in this conversation up until this point fervently agreed about this new threat and said it was "all true".
I feel disgusted at my friends. I feel despair at humanity. How do we progress? How do we improve? How do we go on? I'm a white, middle class man from an accepted country who has never had any discrimination in his life (and I hope I've not given any to anyone, even mistakenly) and I just don't know how people who are discriminated against manage to put up with it and move on and try and make things better. As a scientist I understand reasoned debate and I have played devil's advocate on many occasions but this isn't like that: it isn't rational and it isn't logical and it appears impervious to both...
My heart goes out to all oppressed and discriminated people in the world and I wish it could be different.
I'm not even sure what to call this thread but I just needed to talk about this experience and I have no one else.
 Sorry the post is a bit confused and the spelling isn't that good.... I'm a bit out of sorts...
The worst part of it all was that, no matter how hard I tried, no matter what I said I was helpless in the face of their beliefs....