Random thing you love right now that doesn't deserve its own thread

polypusher wrote:

Something beloved shows like Parks and Rec fell down on is having an absolute punching bag character that it was 100% ok to sh*t on in any way the characters want. In an otherwise very positive show it was so jarring. The Office had Kevin/Creed to a lesser extent. Brooklyn 99 had that spread around a few but mostly Hitchcock.

Ted Lasso doesn't have that character and is much better for it.

I haven't seen Lasso, but that kind of thing really bugs me as I've gotten older. Like I've never gotten through an episode of "House", because the dynamic between him and every other character looks just like an abusive marriage - he sneers contemptuously 24/7, and they react like "yes he's cruel, but only because he cares so deeply..."

fenomas wrote:
polypusher wrote:

Something beloved shows like Parks and Rec fell down on is having an absolute punching bag character that it was 100% ok to sh*t on in any way the characters want. In an otherwise very positive show it was so jarring. The Office had Kevin/Creed to a lesser extent. Brooklyn 99 had that spread around a few but mostly Hitchcock.

Ted Lasso doesn't have that character and is much better for it.

I haven't seen Lasso, but that kind of thing really bugs me as I've gotten older. Like I've never gotten through an episode of "House", because the dynamic between him and every other character looks just like an abusive marriage - he sneers contemptuously 24/7, and they react like "yes he's cruel, but only because he cares so deeply..."

I largely agree with all this, but I don't think it applies as much to B-99 because the cast are only rarely actually mean to Hitchcock, even though he's a pervert - most of the characters have actual flaws (in Gina's case she appears to be 100% flaws) and the other characters rag them for it, but nobody's made a victim in the way that Jerry / Garry is in Parks and Rec. They all try and support Boyle through his failures and don't make fun of him for it.

At least Jerry/Garry gets some redemption in later seasons when:

Spoiler:

he's revealed to be wealthy with a beautiful wife and family, showing that he's been in on the joke all along.

But it's not enough to make up for his years of being abused by his coworkers.

Got a scratchy bit of skin on both my eyes due to winter weather. Not constantly scratching it is stupid hard.

JLS wrote:

At least Jerry/Garry gets some redemption in later seasons when:

Spoiler:

he's revealed to be wealthy with a beautiful wife and family, showing that he's been in on the joke all along.

But it's not enough to make up for his years of being abused by his coworkers.

I was so thrilled when that reveal finally happened, because yeah, I also f*cking hated the punching bag joke and thought it was really, really dissonant with the general tone of the show and the nature of all (or at least most) of the characters participating in it.

That said, while it works as a payoff to a multiple season long gag, I suspect it probably happened specifically because folks on the writing staff and/or cast came to feel the same way about the joke, and needed to find a way to acknowledge that truth and gracefully dismount from using it as they had been.

I'm actually curious if anyone remembers if that particular running gag started in the first season? Because my rough memory is that there WAS a significant tonal shift in general after the first season. That is, there was a lot more of that "The Office" style "isn't it funny that everyone is a total asshole for no good reason?" kind of humor in the first season, and then in the second season they found the more unique voice for the show and committed to finding ways to be funny that let the characters (mostly) be genuine, good hearted people. But, I wonder if the Jerry as punching bag joke was one thing that persisted through that change in tone (mostly because the absurdity of everyone being mean to the sweetest, most likable man on earth DOES have some comedic legs to it, even if it does feel bad when it happens).

Funny, I was just thinking yesterday about the very similar shift in tone that Schitt's Creek had moving into its second season as well, and how welcome and effective it was there too. Once or twice we've actually started a rewatch of the show (a thing we NEVER do, but the quality of that show really earns it), but petered out a couple episodes in. Partly it's just because we just don't rewatch shows, but partly it's because there's a lot more nastiness and cynicism in that first season, particularly in the way the show views the townspeople.

There's a bit of a suggestion that while the Roses are sh*tty, spoiled, entitled people, they are sort of right and the townspeople are crappy too -- particularly when it comes to how Roland (the Chris Elliot character) gleefully engages with Johnny in an adversarial way. And to some degree, that's probably the writers trying to start by leaning into what you'd expect from a Chris Elliot character. But, from the second season on, that fades away quickly and the show has more respect for the humanity of the town in general, and while Roland never loses that essential Chris Elliot edge, he becomes a more believable, human character and less of a nasty caricature. And suddenly, just like the Parks and Rec shift, the show clicks on and is both immensely watchable and impossibly hilarious all the way through to the end.

Yeah the Garry/Gerry stuff started in season 1 of Parks & Rec.

Funny, people always told me you have to "get through" season 1 of Schitt's Creek, but we had no problem with it when we watched it. The later seasons are better, of course, but I think my expectations were so low that the first season ended up being just fine in comparison. I'm curious what I'll think if we ever rewatch it.

Funny, people always told me you have to "get through" season 1 of Schitt's Creek, but we had no problem with it when we watched it. The later seasons are better, of course, but I think my expectations were so low that the first season ended up being just fine in comparison. I'm curious what I'll think if we ever rewatch it.

Yeah, I mean, the times we've tried I definitely found that the first few episodes were every bit as brutally funny as the rest of the show -- just, even the slightly cynical, mean spirited tone was enough to make it harder for me to want to reengage with it as a comfort food kind of watch. Wild how big an effect small things like that can have!

I recall being recommended Schitt's Creek by a lot of folks, but when I watched it I couldn't get past the vibe of the show. Only made it through like an episode and a half. Not really interested in going back to it (I have no shortage of great shows to watch!), but I'm glad that it settled into a more positive feel.

but I'm glad that it settled into a more positive feel.

Yeah, almost to an absurd degree, really.

The core concept of who each member of the Rose family is remains there, but starting from the shift in the second season it becomes just a delightful, uplifting, feel-good show about how even if we'll never fully escape our quirks and challenges and vanities and insecurities, they don't have to stop us from being good people who care for the people around us and strive to live the best, happiest life possible given our circumstances.

BadKen wrote:

I recall being recommended Schitt's Creek by a lot of folks, but when I watched it I couldn't get past the vibe of the show. Only made it through like an episode and a half. Not really interested in going back to it (I have no shortage of great shows to watch!), but I'm glad that it settled into a more positive feel.

100% agreed with you Ken and I think I made it through three episodes.

LeapingGnome wrote:
BadKen wrote:

I recall being recommended Schitt's Creek by a lot of folks, but when I watched it I couldn't get past the vibe of the show. Only made it through like an episode and a half. Not really interested in going back to it (I have no shortage of great shows to watch!), but I'm glad that it settled into a more positive feel.

100% agreed with you Ken and I think I made it through three episodes.

Same. So miserable.

I don't feel like Schitt's Creek really had a significant tonal shift like Parks & Rec did. The tone of P&R changed because the writers basically reworked the show once they realized what they had in some of its characters, whereas Schitts Creek always felt way more certain about who it's characters were from the start, and the more adversarial feel in the beginning was on purpose, because that's where the Rose's journey starts. The thing you take as a suggestion that the Roses are a little bit right about the townspeople always felt to me like it was instead an entirely realistic depiction of how people will treat outsiders who come into their town acting like they're "better" than them, which is why it goes away as the Rose's view of the townspeople changes.

Edit - I really hope some of the people who quit watching in the first few episodes give it a sustained try at some point. It is absolutely one of the best and most wholesome shows I've ever watched.

BadKen wrote:

I recall being recommended Schitt's Creek by a lot of folks, but when I watched it I couldn't get past the vibe of the show. Only made it through like an episode and a half. Not really interested in going back to it (I have no shortage of great shows to watch!), but I'm glad that it settled into a more positive feel.

Likewise. We tried getting into Schitt's Creek, and lasted five or six episodes before giving up. We just couldn't root for anyone.

I do remember watching the first season of Schitt's Creek thinking these characters are so unlikeable and unredeemable. It was urging of others that got me to that slow transition as they started to integrate with some of the town. It was quite wonderful in the end.

There was one episode I couldn't watch, when Eugene Levy's character had a heart attack. That was bad timing for me, but I think I didn't miss much skipping it.

Stengah wrote:

I really hope some of the people who quit watching in the first few episodes give it a sustained try at some point. It is absolutely one of the best and most wholesome shows I've ever watched.

I'll second this. There's tons of TV out there and we're all just trying to keep ourselves entertained, so nobody's wrong for dipping after a few episodes. But it really, genuinely, is one of the most wholesome comedies out there, and by the end you're rooting for every one of these characters. If you're ever between shows and are looking for something that goes down easy in 30 minutes chunks, consider giving it another try.

Stevie is awesome and totally worth rooting for in Schitt's Creek!
Yall are just haters

Taskmaster Champion of Champions 2024.

Morgana’s back!

fangblackbone wrote:

Stevie is awesome and totally worth rooting for in Schitt's Creek!
Yall are just haters :(

Maybe it just wasn't enough like a British mystery. Did you ever think of that, huh?

re: Schitt’s Creek
What I love about it:
It’s an actual character arc story, it’s not a sit com. The “tonal shift” isn’t season to season, it’s show to show as part of a well defined, pre-determined story. I really appreciated it being a nice story well told.

Higgledy wrote:

Taskmaster Champion of Champions 2024.

So much fun. I'd love a whole season with them together.

Yeah. Such a shame it was only one episode.

Honeybees got game

Had a great Sunday! I was able to deep clean the fridge, clean up the cable mess behind my desktop PC, fix our Plex Server, do some admin tasks, and even got a few hours of Baldur's Gate 3 gaming time. Ideal combo of chores and gaming

dejanzie wrote:

Had a great Sunday! I was able to deep clean the fridge, clean up the cable mess behind my desktop PC, fix our Plex Server, do some admin tasks, and even got a few hours of Baldur's Gate 3 gaming time. Ideal combo of chores and gaming :lol:

I need a few days like that. I'm so glad you got all that done - and the gaming!

Had my first good night of sleep in how don't know how long.

Chairman_Mao wrote:

Honeybees got game

That's just their cloaking.

Took my little ones to a kid's climbing wall gym and soft play and they absolutely loved it. The bigger one climbed the walls for an hour and a half and then we got almost an hour of the two of them playing together in the soft play with no issues and my spouse and I just chatting and watching them. It was nice.

T-shirt tags that tear off cleanly by hand.

merphle wrote:

T-shirt tags that tear off cleanly by hand.

Hah, yeah, that is nice.

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A mini piece of cheesecake made by one of my students at art (we all got a slice.)