NFL 2012 Week 4 Thread

Chiefs - Gut instinct says Chargers, but Arrowhead is a bitch play away in.
Seahawks - The Rams still look pretty awful. Coin toss says Seahawks
Bucs - Redskins poor front office rears its ugly head again.
49ers - Despite the long plane ride. The Jets melt down and turn on each other within three games.
Texans - With the caveat that it was around this point last season that our top players started dropping like flies. I am tentatively hopeful, but at this point would be unsurprised if the Flying Spaghetti Monster appeared over the field and struck down Schaub, Foster, Tate, and Watt.

Also:
Jacoby Jones. What the F?
How is our old defense doing in Buffalo? Didn't the Bills sign all of the Texans defensive FAs?

Chargers
Seahawks
Bucs
49ers
Texans

I think folks who are taking the Redskins must not be keeping up with the injury reports.

Paleocon wrote:

I think folks who are taking the Redskins must not be keeping up with the injury reports.

No, we are just homers. That is why I never bet on the Redskins.

Paleocon wrote:

I think folks who are taking the Redskins must not be keeping up with the injury reports.

That, or they've looked at the right side of Tampa's offensive line or seen who Tampa now is starting at DE since both starting DEs are out.

Chargers at Chiefs
Seahawks at Rams
Redskins at Buccaneers
49ers at Jets
Titans at Texans

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Seahawks
Redskins
49ers
Texans

Even with both DE's out, I have to think that the Bucs just have way too much speed on the defensive side of the ball for the Redskins to put up the points they need to stay in the game. The Bucs have had a hard enough time on offense, but they did put up 34 points on the Giants who are a better team defensively than the Redskins.

I don't see this going Washington's way.

gumbie: Fortunately for the Titans, we only have one JJ Watt they have to worry about.

Chargers v Chiefs - I like KC and all, but my gut says Chargers, so that's wherewe go.
Seahawks at Rams - Karma is indeed a bitch; The Football Gods will wreck havoc upon them.
Redskins @ Buccaneers - RG3's legacy of not closing it out bites him here. Plus Tampa's looking good so far.
49ers @ Jets - Tebow and the Jets may just win, but the Niners are the powerhouses of the less laughable NFC West this year.
Titans @ Texans - I have a feeling I'll regret not picking Tennessee, but I'll play the party line here.

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Rams
Bucs
49ers
Texans

You can drop me from the list.

I really like the Thursday night kickoff team with Deion, Marshall, Michael, Rich and Mooch. Seems like the have good chemistry and actually get along. The commentators...that's another story.

Grumpicus wrote:

You can drop me from the list.

You can still turn this season around!

Gumbie wrote:

I really like the Thursday night kickoff team with Deion, Marshall, Michael, Rich and Mooch. Seems like the have good chemistry and actually get along. The commentators...that's another story.

I dig the commentators; Mayock's great, and Nessler's not one of those painfully overdone guys. As for the pregame, I agree that the NFL team actually seems to get along and it doesn't have the "NOW IS THE TIME FOR PAINFULLY FORCED LAUGHTER" you see in particular on the CBS broadcast team. I'm completely amazed that Deion and Michael Irvin managed to rein in the overt, idiotic showmanship they seemed compelled to do when they started broadcasting, and now manage to actually occasionally say stuff about football.

I'm not watching the NFL Network atm, but the local feed at the stadium just showed the crowd cheering for the refs walking on the field. Crazy.

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Bucs
49ers
Texans

Chargers at Chiefs
Seahawks at Rams
Redskins at Buccaneers
49ers at Jets
Titans at Texans

I was about to only pick one home team. But hell, I'll give the Bucs a chance. Their defense looked great against Dallas, and if the refs hadn't screwed up and taken away their defensive TD they'd probably have won. Their offense... well... hopefully the D can score again.

HOF nominees are out for this year, nice first-year class:

Quarterback – Steve McNair
Running Back – Priest Holmes
Wide Receiver – Keenan McCardell
Offensive Linemen – Larry Allen (G), Tom Nalen (C), Jonathan Ogden (T)
Defensive Linemen – Sam Adams (DT), Warren Sapp (DT), Michael Strahan (DE), Ted Washington (DT/NT), Bryant Young (DE)
Defensive Back – John Lynch (S)
Kicker – Morten Andersen

Of the n00bs this year, it seems pretty safe to say only some of the linemen are getting in (I'm not enough of a Bucs homer to think John Lynch was HOF-worthy). Holmes suffers from Terrell Davis syndrome (really good, but not really good long enough), McNair has that MVP but never dominated, and I love Keenan McCardell's Super Bowl TDs, but I can't ever remember thinking he was "THE GUY". Really solid career. Larry Allen and Jonathan Ogden seem locks or should be (then again, so did Willie Roaf, and he had to wait until year two). I'll homer up and vote Sapp; he was the most disruptive interior lineman since John Randle, and the guy was awesome at his peak. That being said, he's a dickwad, so I think bitterness keeps him out for a year or two. Other than that, iit's time to clear some backlog.

Keenan McCardell's best years were in Jacksonville, and I don't think he belongs anywhere in the HOF conversation.

He was a solid possession receiver but he wasn't anywhere close to the receiver Jimmy Smith was on those same Jaguar teams.

Also, Steve McNair does not belong in serious HOF contention. Good, not an all-time great.

Of course, these are names that will languish on the bottom of that existing list beyond this year. It's a nice honor for those guys to get nominated.

Allen and Ogden, hell yes.

I'm shocked McCardell is even on the list.

garion333 wrote:

I'm shocked McCardell is even on the list.

Stat inflation. He's 15th on the all time receptions list.

Two spots down from him is Muhsin Muhammad. 17th all time. Seriously.

Lots of marginal players make the initial HOF list. Does anybody think Keyshawn Johnson, Larry Centers, Danny White, or Sean Landeta belong in the HOF? Well, they're all on the full list of nominees.

The refs sure are tan.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Lots of marginal players make the initial HOF list. Does anybody think Keyshawn Johnson, Larry Centers, Danny White, or Sean Landeta belong in the HOF? Well, they're all on the full list of nominees.

Larry Centers was the man.

Thanks to Time Warner finally caving and carrying NFL Network, I'm watching my first Thursday Night game of the season.

Mayock!

Mayock took a minute to say that he thinks Haloti Ngata is one of the top 10 players in the entire NFL. I'm right there with you, man.

*Legion* wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Lots of marginal players make the initial HOF list. Does anybody think Keyshawn Johnson, Larry Centers, Danny White, or Sean Landeta belong in the HOF? Well, they're all on the full list of nominees.

Larry Centers was the man.

Yes, yes, he was. I have no doubt he belongs in the Hall of The Man.

Actually, looking at that full list of players, it's kind of a fun exercise to think of who on that long list is least deserving. I'll go with Stephen Davis.

Chargers at Chiefs
A battle between one coach that can turn something into nothing and another that can turn not much into an early-lit molotov. I anticipated KC's run game fluking them out 4 or 5 wins this year. They got one out of the way last week, so I'll put my money on Norv.

Seahawks at Rams
Redskins at Buccaneers

49ers at Jets
49ers won't look bad against Sanchez. He's got his one good first half game out of the way already. He's done til week 9 or so.

Titans at Texans

Ogden and Allen definitely for the HoF. I wouldn't be surprised if Strahan got in either, with the NY/tv bump.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:
*Legion* wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Lots of marginal players make the initial HOF list. Does anybody think Keyshawn Johnson, Larry Centers, Danny White, or Sean Landeta belong in the HOF? Well, they're all on the full list of nominees.

Larry Centers was the man.

Yes, yes, he was. I have no doubt he belongs in the Hall of The Man.

Actually, looking at that full list of players, it's kind of a fun exercise to think of who on that long list is least deserving. I'll go with Stephen Davis.

That's a good pick.

I might have to say McCardell. Stephen Davis was, at least, one of the top 5 RBs in the game for a few of his seasons. McCardell was never even a WR1 on any of his teams.

Baltimore is probably my favorite team to watch of the teams that I don't actually care about.