2012, end of the world, or end of your pile? - the 12 month thread

Minarchist wrote:

Excellent, excellent choices. Both very high in WTF quotient, too.

I thought about going for a hat trick and putting Persona 4 on the list as well, but I've been hankering for some Final Fantasy lately. So FFX edged out P4 and getting back to Xenoblade for next year.

The end of Majora's Mask also has one of my favorite images in gaming. Linked for spoilers.

I should consider padding my 2013 list with N64 games I never got to fully enjoy. If only I didn't have to track down and buy the games I have in mind...

  • Zelda: Ocarina of Time
  • Zelda: Majora's Mask
  • Paper Mario
  • Kirby 64
  • Mystical Ninja
  • Perfect Dark

The only game on this list I've played at all has been a re-release of OoT on the GameCube, and even then, I never beat it. I've actually not beaten a Zelda game newer than LttP on SNES.

Note to self: consider putting together a list like this for the SNES.

trueheart78 wrote:

The only game on this list I've played at all has been a re-release of OoT on the GameCube, and even then, I never beat it. I've actually not beaten a Zelda game newer than LttP on SNES.

That's okay. That's still the best one.

Garden Ninja wrote:
trueheart78 wrote:

The only game on this list I've played at all has been a re-release of OoT on the GameCube, and even then, I never beat it. I've actually not beaten a Zelda game newer than LttP on SNES.

That's okay. That's still the best one.

...on the SNES.

trueheart78 wrote:

If only I didn't have to track down and buy the games I have in mind...

I think about 1/2 that list is on the Wii/WiiU Virtual Console at this point.

shoptroll wrote:
trueheart78 wrote:

If only I didn't have to track down and buy the games I have in mind...

I think about 1/2 that list is on the Wii/WiiU Virtual Console at this point.

Perfect Dark and Mystical Ninja aren't. The rest are.

shoptroll wrote:
trueheart78 wrote:

If only I didn't have to track down and buy the games I have in mind...

I think about 1/2 that list is on the Wii/WiiU Virtual Console at this point.

I don't own a Wii, and I'm not about to start

I've come to realize that my threshold for losing interest in a PC game is way, way lower than for a console.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

I've come to realize that my threshold for losing interest in a PC game is way, way lower than for a console.

Gemini Rue not gelling with you that much?

ClockworkHouse wrote:

I've come to realize that my threshold for losing interest in a PC game is way, way lower than for a console.

Mine is simply that I forget the PC can play video games. I've said this before, but the biggest reason I don't follow through on games on the PC is that I simply don't think about them when I sit down to actually game.

I was enjoying Penny Arcade Ep. 3, but I forgot about it. I was enjoying Mother 3, but I forgot about it. I enjoy a lot of games, but forget about them.

ccesarano wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:

I've come to realize that my threshold for losing interest in a PC game is way, way lower than for a console.

Mine is simply that I forget the PC can play video games. I've said this before, but the biggest reason I don't follow through on games on the PC is that I simply don't think about them when I sit down to actually game.

I was enjoying Penny Arcade Ep. 3, but I forgot about it. I was enjoying Mother 3, but I forgot about it. I enjoy a lot of games, but forget about them.

That's one of the reasons why I'm not a huge fan of buying discounted XBLA or PSN games unless I'm ready to play them - I've still got a few on either system that I never see, so I never think to play them. I always get a little surprised when reading my list and go, "oh yeah... I've got that to play, as well..."

shoptroll wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:

I've come to realize that my threshold for losing interest in a PC game is way, way lower than for a console.

Gemini Rue not gelling with you that much?

Yes and no.

What I've found happens with PC games is that I drop them long before I'd drop the exact same game on a console. Gemini Rue? Yes, it's fiddly and old school, but I'd probably see it through if it were a Wii game. On the PC, I'm done after about an hour. Ys Origin? I'd play the crap out of that on a PSP, but after two hours on the PC, I'm not interested anymore.

The conclusion I've come to is that I just don't like playing games on a PC. It needs to be really short or really engaging if it's going to hold my attention on that platform; put another way: it needs to be better than it would need to be on another platform if it's going to keep my attention.

Mystic Violet just added a new post here for anyone who wants to do the 'start to finish' thing with impressions of their pile games.

No intention of removing end game discussion here, as I think a lot of that gets us motivated to get onto those titles, but it's an interesting idea to avoid necro's, and might work well for those of us looking backwards with our gaming, rather than forwards.

Here's a funny thing: I've been looking at my 3DS's Activity Log lately, and I've noticed a pattern. These are games I've played and about when I felt burned out on them:

Devil Survivor Overclocked - 15:51
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow - 14:33
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass - 18:34
Pushmo - 14:13
Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume - 14:07
999 - 16:10
Strange Journey - 19:10
New Super Mario Bros. 2 - 19:12

Now, looking back at a couple, here's where I burned out on some other games that I went on to put a bunch more time into:

Ghost Recon: Shadow Wars - 14:14 (now 31:14)
Super Mario 3D Land - 16:00 (now 21:57)
Dragon Quest IX - 16:37 (now 34:20)

A few of those games I beat but felt like I played a few more hours than I ought to have (Phantom Hourglass, Dawn of Sorrow, 999), and one I traded away, unfinished (Devil Survivor Overclocked).

It looks like after somewhere between 14 and 19 hours of play I get tired of whatever I'm playing, but if I set it aside for awhile and come back to it, I'm able to enjoy it again. I'm starting to get burned out on Dragon Quest IX again after, that's right, 18 hours of play. Pushmo? Picked it back up this afternoon and have been loving it. I'm willing to bet this pattern holds up with my games on every platform.

So there's a lesson here for me: I should look to cycle out my games about every 16 hours of play, give or take, but not trade away something I was previously enjoying but lost interest in around that time. Interest lost after just 5 hours? Probably okay to trade. Interest lost after 15 hours? Be suspicious of that disinterest and keep it around. (Which makes me think that in retrospect I probably shouldn't have traded away Devil Survivor Overclocked. Ah, well.)

It's funny to have an idea of exactly how long my attention span is.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

It's funny to have an idea of exactly how long my attention span is.

Congrats on being able to figure this out with science!

And Assassin's Creed: Revelations has been toppled, and I've finally caught up with the series. Surprisingly I didn't burn out on the gameplay after playing two titles within the span of a month.

I might try and start on The Last Story for Wii as my next long game, but I think for a short game I'm going to try the first two Walking Dead episodes I got for free on PSN. Otherwise the next long game on my pile is to finish off Dragon's Dogma, which is also a nice alternative.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

The conclusion I've come to is that I just don't like playing games on a PC. It needs to be really short or really engaging if it's going to hold my attention on that platform; put another way: it needs to be better than it would need to be on another platform if it's going to keep my attention.

I kind of the same way, though rather than "super engaging or short", it's "super engaging or playable in short chunks". I actually prefer that kind of game on PC, since the PC is always on and steam is always running. It's a purely mental thing I suppose, but turning on a console feels like work, and I should have at least 30 minutes of playtime to justify turning the thing on.

For instance, I played Anomoly: Warzone Earth on 360. It played fine, and I mostly enjoyed it, but didn't really engage me. However, given that the game checkpoints fairly often, I think I would have enjoyed it more on PC, because I could play a checkpoint or two before work, or before bed, or whatever. On console, I felt like I had to play a whole level or it wasn't worth it.

For handhelds, I also need to be able to make progress quickly. I like the gameplay of New Super Mario Bros, but it frustrates me that I can only save at the castles. I know I can just close the DS to suspend it (I've only had a DS for a couple of months, so maybe I'll get used to it) but I still want to be able to save between levels. However, if a game does allow me to make progress quickly, I'm more tolerant of and actually enjoy grindy / tedious. I don't think Pokemon, for instance, would work on a console, but I really dig it on my DS. Part of that is because I can play it on the bus, but I've spent hours curled up on the couch on several occasions playing it as well, so a good chunk of it is the format.

I've just talked myself out of getting Dragon's Dogma, thanks to a less than engaging demo and the GWJ catch all intro.

"Equal parts Dark Souls/Kingdoms of Amalur" or something to that effect. I have both of those, unplayed, sitting in my pile. Why add a third to that list.

That's AU$30 that goes back in my pocket, and one less title in the pile.

m0nk3yboy wrote:

I've just talked myself out of getting Dragon's Dogma, thanks to a less than engaging demo and the GWJ catch all intro.

"Equal parts Dark Souls/Kingdoms of Amalur" or something to that effect. I have both of those, unplayed, sitting in my pile. Why add a third to that list.

That's AU$30 that goes back in my pocket, and one less title in the pile.

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Honestly, comparing it to either Dark Souls or Kingdoms of Amalur is just...nope. Nope I can't do it. It's like comparing Halo and Gears of War simply because each has shooty bits.

Granted I shouldn't be encouraging you to add to your pile or spend money, but were it me I'd get rid of both Amalur and Dark Souls in favor of Dragon's Dogma.

Popped Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door in yesterday, as it has been nearly 8 years since i played this last (I hardly remember the story, just how much I enjoyed it).

I blame this all on MysticViolet - it's all her fault

Forgot to mention the other day, but I added Super Mario 3D Land to the pile. My dad got for me for my birthday, not realizing that I don't actually own a 3DS yet. This is what happens when you just send parents your Amazon Wishlist. I was planning on getting an XL in the next month or so anyway, so on the pile it goes!

ccesarano wrote:
m0nk3yboy wrote:

I've just talked myself out of getting Dragon's Dogma, thanks to a less than engaging demo and the GWJ catch all intro.

"Equal parts Dark Souls/Kingdoms of Amalur" or something to that effect. I have both of those, unplayed, sitting in my pile. Why add a third to that list.

That's AU$30 that goes back in my pocket, and one less title in the pile.

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Honestly, comparing it to either Dark Souls or Kingdoms of Amalur is just...nope. Nope I can't do it. It's like comparing Halo and Gears of War simply because each has shooty bits.

Granted I shouldn't be encouraging you to add to your pile or spend money, but were it me I'd get rid of both Amalur and Dark Souls in favor of Dragon's Dogma.

I might give the demo another go, or would you say the demo is not that good (like Batman wasn't).

Happy to be enabled on this purchase, no enable-guilt shall be forthcoming.

The demo sold me on the potential of the mechanics, but the only part of the demo that really sold me was 1) clinging to monsters and attacking specific parts of 'em and 2) the moment in the second demo when you're fighting goblins and then BAM! Griffin! And then I climbed on the Griffin's back as it started to fly and hacked at its wings and then WHEEEEE! fell to the ground.

That's what sold me on the game, and honestly, that sort of fun remains throughout. This is where I've wanted RPG's to go for years now, and it's so awesome to play a game that does everything I want it to.

Except the story. The story is alright, nothing great.

But truth is, it will be on sale again. If you don't have time for it now (and it is certainly a time consuming game), then hold off on it.

As for me, I'm almost caught up on The Walking Dead. I played the first two episodes Sunday night that I got for free from PSN, and I immediately bought episodes 3 and 4 and cannot wait for 5. I'll be crossing that off the pile once I finish episode 4, though, as there's no way I'll have episode 5 sitting there when it releases. Normally I'm careful about the hype other people make, with the exception of a handful (I find Blind Evil and Clocky, for example, are probably more reliable to my tastes than a lot of the press or other forum members around here), but holy crap is The Walking Dead as good as everyone has claimed.

I'll be starting on The Last Story tonight, though, and hoping that its short-for-an-RPG length (20some hours I believe?) makes it a lot easier for me to beat compared to other Wii games. I plan on moving my Wii out of the living room soon, but its tough as my niece likes to play her Tangled video game on there once in a while.

I did add Sly Cooper to the pile, and I'll be trying to nab three copies of Borderlands 2 and Dead Island during the Thursday/Friday sales this week so I can co-op them with two of my friends. So I'll have three games to add to the pile this month, but overall I feel like progress shouldn't be too bad considering I've already beaten...four games?

So we've got two Steam sales approaching. If anyone sees me add a new game to my Steam library or Backloggery (aside from Borderlands 2 DLC or New Super Mario U), please feel free to publicly berate me. My pile will thank you.

ccesarano wrote:

The demo sold me on the potential of the mechanics, but the only part of the demo that really sold me was 1) clinging to monsters and attacking specific parts of 'em and 2) the moment in the second demo when you're fighting goblins and then BAM! Griffin! And then I climbed on the Griffin's back as it started to fly and hacked at its wings and then WHEEEEE! fell to the ground.

That's what sold me on the game, and honestly, that sort of fun remains throughout. This is where I've wanted RPG's to go for years now, and it's so awesome to play a game that does everything I want it to.

Except the story. The story is alright, nothing great.

But truth is, it will be on sale again. If you don't have time for it now (and it is certainly a time consuming game), then hold off on it.

Looks like I definitely need to play the demo again!

RRP is $80 at EB, so the $30 the import store is asking is a pretty sweet deal. Possible +1 looming.

m0nk3yboy wrote:

Looks like I definitely need to play the demo again!

RRP is $80 at EB, so the $30 the import store is asking is a pretty sweet deal. Possible Definite +1 looming. :)

FTFY. Stop pretending you have will power

shoptroll wrote:

So we've got two Steam sales approaching. If anyone sees me add a new game to my Steam library or Backloggery (aside from Borderlands 2 DLC or New Super Mario U), please feel free to publicly berate me. My pile will thank you.

You can get New Super Mario U on steam now. :-O Awesome!

More seriously, you cleared your steam wishlist, right?

Garden Ninja wrote:

More seriously, you cleared your steam wishlist, right?

Except for Bioshock Infinite and South Park, yep! That's what killed me during the summer sale

[plots to send shoptroll a Steam gift]