That which has been seen/Vasectomy Snip-all

So day 4....All was going so well. I was relaxing half the day yesteday. Felt really good. I fell for the trap guys. I got up and did a few small things for a few hours. I helped around the house, helped my kids. Thought I took it light.

Woof, I was wrong. Got some slightly angry and swollen avocados. Been taking it light again today at work. Peas are back in rotation. I am really looking forward to the end of this week in hopes most of the pain is gone. Not terrible, just really miss moving at a normal human speed and being able to do normal tasks.

Motrin reduces inflammation.

Man what a ride. So mostly last week I had a sore right side of pelvis.

Spoiler:

I think I got a granuloma irritation. No big deal beyond me annoying my doctor and nurses with questions.

We went to a cabin bordering the boundary waters canoe area, no cell zone.. First day in I notice the whole incision area is full of puss, once drained I looked again and saw it was a gaping incision. I dressed it and applied antibiotic cream but no one preps you for that. I had to really consider what was happening. Turns out was just fluid and normal drainage, no infection. Luckily I was stung by a wasp and had backup antibiotics for that so if it had been infected I had that. Got back to Grand Marais MN and called the doc to confirm it was ok. He was so unconcerned it was annoying. None of the paper work or anything really addressed much beyond the first 3 days.

I look forward to fully healing. I was told I should not be very active but come on this is week 3. Next week we are supposed to be hiking in Rocky Mountain National Park....Would have been nice to be prepped that hey you may not really be healed. The initial 10 minute telehealth visit didn't address any of this, nor did it address any trips for the month I was chastised for last week.

Damn. Glad you're not infected.

Yeah everything says 7 days back to normal but most of us here lately have seen longer than that maybe 2-3 weeks before resuming full normal activity levels.

Normal is relative and people heal at different rates.

I don't know that i have any normal relatives.

I have had granuloma issues, but my wounds sealed up and never had pus. That would have terrified me, oh sound-a-like friend, especially out on a canoe trip. Glad it was fine and didn't, you know, attract bears or hungry wolverines or some other Republican-themed wildlife...

Robear wrote:

I have had granuloma issues, but my wounds sealed up and never had pus. That would have terrified me, oh sound-a-like friend, especially out on a canoe trip. Glad it was fine and didn't, you know, attract bears or hungry wolverines or some other Republican-themed wildlife...

Yeah the right side with the granuloma sure gets irritated quick if I do much of anything for walking, hiking or things that move near my right hip. I hiked with the family yesterday for 2 miles. My speed was limited to walking essentially below the knee.

This all being said I will happily recommend my friends get this. So far I have the job to help convince 4 husbands to proceed with the surgery. The other section of male friends seem to be ahead of the curve.

A month later. I am regretting this procedure. Pain and swelling be damned. No one even coached me on the possible side effects and pain. I've been chugging IBP for a month straight. Almost through my 500 tabs since the procedure with no end in sight. I thought I did research but I didn't know how prevalent my side effects are and no one talked about it.

I hope I am one of the lucky ones who only has to deal with this for 6 to 12 months. Had I known there were non surgical ways to knock out my sperm count (papaya seeds) I'd have done that instead. I went through this for my wife and it sucks to have experiences one iota of what they experience regularly but this isn't what I thought or was medically coached about an easy procedure everyone recovers from within 3 days. Probably doesn't help I was ready to have one more but my wife wasn't. I am just venting and upset that I missed a huge portion of education about this and that my doc and most doctors don't warn you.

That being said, before folks take the dive, be sure to investigate other options and the possibility of PVPS, Post vasectomy pain syndrome. It's complicated and the fixes are not really fleshed out. The main solution is more surgery to either reverse the vasectomy, cut out more defrons, remove nerves from the defrons, or just wait it out for years.

OMG, I’m so sorry to hear that Hobear. I had some pain about 6 months to a year in but in retrospect it was something else. I’m very sad to hear you got hit by this.

I'm sorry to hear this is happening, Hobear. It sounds incredibly frustrating. I occasionally get some tenderness on the righthand side if I'm too active, e.g., too many days in a row on a bike seat, but nothing like what you're going through.

Do you think you might consider consulting with another urologist? From your posts, it sounds like the only feedback you've gotten from the get-go is "it's no big deal." I'd feel blindsided, too.

Yeah, I plan on messaging them again. So far they've not acknowledged much. Thankfully in Rochester MN near me is one of the main researchers on PVPS, I've got it not bad compared to dudes who've dealt with it for years if not decades. I'm being whiney and just venting. I work in the business house of Healthcare and have heard plenty of cases where docs are good but don't really handle the information ahead of time or the follow up treatment well. It's odd when the clinic doesn't seem to care.

I'll probably see someone new if I don't see much change through September.

That really sucks, Hobear; my discomfort was gone in no time, and I didn't even know there was any real risk of long-term post-operative pain. Like you said, at least you're in an area full of great medical care, and hopefully you can get yourself fixed up soon.

I'm going to mimic MilkmanDanimal... that does suck. I didn't experience any of the negative longer term effects... just the short week of icing up my stuff. Thinking back, the doctor never even discussed PVPS with me. Seems like I should have done some better research and the doctor should have done some better prep conversations. Hope things get better for you Hobear.

Hmm from what you described a few weeks ago, incision stuff, sounds like you had a traditional procedure, witch a scalpel? Mine was the no scalpel, just goes in through a tiny hole. Supposedly that's a lot less risky.

Not that that helps you, but for anybody else considering, try to find someone doing that procedure.

Good luck man. Keep us updated.

Stele wrote:

Hmm from what you described a few weeks ago, incision stuff, sounds like you had a traditional procedure, witch a scalpel? Mine was the no scalpel, just goes in through a tiny hole. Supposedly that's a lot less risky.

Not that that helps you, but for anybody else considering, try to find someone doing that procedure.

Good luck man. Keep us updated.

No it was the no scalpel version don't by a major hospital in town and a well recommended urologist. Still, balls be a difficult funny thing to mess with. Protect the boys out there!

There are other things that could be going wrong. Have you had your PSA checked lately?

So far everything has been related to vas ectomy surgery and was not present before the surgery. I'll check into that too if it continues. Also everything thus far was pain and swelling related to the vasectomy as well. Just after effects and the catch all non real diagnosis of pvps. As it's not in the DCM it's pretty broad.

Good point to check out Robear.