That which has been seen/Vasectomy Snip-all

So day 4....All was going so well. I was relaxing half the day yesteday. Felt really good. I fell for the trap guys. I got up and did a few small things for a few hours. I helped around the house, helped my kids. Thought I took it light.

Woof, I was wrong. Got some slightly angry and swollen avocados. Been taking it light again today at work. Peas are back in rotation. I am really looking forward to the end of this week in hopes most of the pain is gone. Not terrible, just really miss moving at a normal human speed and being able to do normal tasks.

Motrin reduces inflammation.

Man what a ride. So mostly last week I had a sore right side of pelvis.

Spoiler:

I think I got a granuloma irritation. No big deal beyond me annoying my doctor and nurses with questions.

We went to a cabin bordering the boundary waters canoe area, no cell zone.. First day in I notice the whole incision area is full of puss, once drained I looked again and saw it was a gaping incision. I dressed it and applied antibiotic cream but no one preps you for that. I had to really consider what was happening. Turns out was just fluid and normal drainage, no infection. Luckily I was stung by a wasp and had backup antibiotics for that so if it had been infected I had that. Got back to Grand Marais MN and called the doc to confirm it was ok. He was so unconcerned it was annoying. None of the paper work or anything really addressed much beyond the first 3 days.

I look forward to fully healing. I was told I should not be very active but come on this is week 3. Next week we are supposed to be hiking in Rocky Mountain National Park....Would have been nice to be prepped that hey you may not really be healed. The initial 10 minute telehealth visit didn't address any of this, nor did it address any trips for the month I was chastised for last week.

Damn. Glad you're not infected.

Yeah everything says 7 days back to normal but most of us here lately have seen longer than that maybe 2-3 weeks before resuming full normal activity levels.

Normal is relative and people heal at different rates.

I don't know that i have any normal relatives.

I have had granuloma issues, but my wounds sealed up and never had pus. That would have terrified me, oh sound-a-like friend, especially out on a canoe trip. Glad it was fine and didn't, you know, attract bears or hungry wolverines or some other Republican-themed wildlife...

Robear wrote:

I have had granuloma issues, but my wounds sealed up and never had pus. That would have terrified me, oh sound-a-like friend, especially out on a canoe trip. Glad it was fine and didn't, you know, attract bears or hungry wolverines or some other Republican-themed wildlife...

Yeah the right side with the granuloma sure gets irritated quick if I do much of anything for walking, hiking or things that move near my right hip. I hiked with the family yesterday for 2 miles. My speed was limited to walking essentially below the knee.

This all being said I will happily recommend my friends get this. So far I have the job to help convince 4 husbands to proceed with the surgery. The other section of male friends seem to be ahead of the curve.

A month later. I am regretting this procedure. Pain and swelling be damned. No one even coached me on the possible side effects and pain. I've been chugging IBP for a month straight. Almost through my 500 tabs since the procedure with no end in sight. I thought I did research but I didn't know how prevalent my side effects are and no one talked about it.

I hope I am one of the lucky ones who only has to deal with this for 6 to 12 months. Had I known there were non surgical ways to knock out my sperm count (papaya seeds) I'd have done that instead. I went through this for my wife and it sucks to have experiences one iota of what they experience regularly but this isn't what I thought or was medically coached about an easy procedure everyone recovers from within 3 days. Probably doesn't help I was ready to have one more but my wife wasn't. I am just venting and upset that I missed a huge portion of education about this and that my doc and most doctors don't warn you.

That being said, before folks take the dive, be sure to investigate other options and the possibility of PVPS, Post vasectomy pain syndrome. It's complicated and the fixes are not really fleshed out. The main solution is more surgery to either reverse the vasectomy, cut out more defrons, remove nerves from the defrons, or just wait it out for years.

OMG, I’m so sorry to hear that Hobear. I had some pain about 6 months to a year in but in retrospect it was something else. I’m very sad to hear you got hit by this.

I'm sorry to hear this is happening, Hobear. It sounds incredibly frustrating. I occasionally get some tenderness on the righthand side if I'm too active, e.g., too many days in a row on a bike seat, but nothing like what you're going through.

Do you think you might consider consulting with another urologist? From your posts, it sounds like the only feedback you've gotten from the get-go is "it's no big deal." I'd feel blindsided, too.

Yeah, I plan on messaging them again. So far they've not acknowledged much. Thankfully in Rochester MN near me is one of the main researchers on PVPS, I've got it not bad compared to dudes who've dealt with it for years if not decades. I'm being whiney and just venting. I work in the business house of Healthcare and have heard plenty of cases where docs are good but don't really handle the information ahead of time or the follow up treatment well. It's odd when the clinic doesn't seem to care.

I'll probably see someone new if I don't see much change through September.

That really sucks, Hobear; my discomfort was gone in no time, and I didn't even know there was any real risk of long-term post-operative pain. Like you said, at least you're in an area full of great medical care, and hopefully you can get yourself fixed up soon.

I'm going to mimic MilkmanDanimal... that does suck. I didn't experience any of the negative longer term effects... just the short week of icing up my stuff. Thinking back, the doctor never even discussed PVPS with me. Seems like I should have done some better research and the doctor should have done some better prep conversations. Hope things get better for you Hobear.

Hmm from what you described a few weeks ago, incision stuff, sounds like you had a traditional procedure, witch a scalpel? Mine was the no scalpel, just goes in through a tiny hole. Supposedly that's a lot less risky.

Not that that helps you, but for anybody else considering, try to find someone doing that procedure.

Good luck man. Keep us updated.

Stele wrote:

Hmm from what you described a few weeks ago, incision stuff, sounds like you had a traditional procedure, witch a scalpel? Mine was the no scalpel, just goes in through a tiny hole. Supposedly that's a lot less risky.

Not that that helps you, but for anybody else considering, try to find someone doing that procedure.

Good luck man. Keep us updated.

No it was the no scalpel version don't by a major hospital in town and a well recommended urologist. Still, balls be a difficult funny thing to mess with. Protect the boys out there!

There are other things that could be going wrong. Have you had your PSA checked lately?

So far everything has been related to vas ectomy surgery and was not present before the surgery. I'll check into that too if it continues. Also everything thus far was pain and swelling related to the vasectomy as well. Just after effects and the catch all non real diagnosis of pvps. As it's not in the DCM it's pretty broad.

Good point to check out Robear.

Well nearing 2 1/2 months recovery. Around 6 to 8 weeks most discomfort went away. Still occasional some and surgery site is very sensitive still but closed up. Things function as they should so that is a perk. Still get weird occasional pain in my upper right pelvis that seems to only correlate with sitting at a desk or something. It's odd!

I did my first real workout since the surgery. I am weaker than I have ever been but at least with a clean eating diet I did with the wife I didn't gain a bunch of weight due to being sedentary. I am still unsure if I'd ever recommend someone go through this with my rough patch and learning what others have suffered for decades. I'd recommend dudes try some alternatives like the well documented sperm reducing power of papaya seeds.

My doctor was professional but the lack of care from them was quite annoying. Not sure what they could have done but through out the recovery and billing snafus I had a less than stellar experience there as well.

At least this seems to be done.

Got my surgery date scheduled. Have the option of IV with mild sedation or a local. I have never had an IV and am a little hesitant to get one if I don't really need it. Otherwise, pretty excited to get it done and over with.

Mixolyde wrote:

Got my surgery date scheduled. Have the option of IV with mild sedation or a local. I have never had an IV and am a little hesitant to get one if I don't really need it. Otherwise, pretty excited to get it done and over with.

Nice! Hope it goes smoothly!

tuffalobuffalo wrote:
Mixolyde wrote:

Got my surgery date scheduled. Have the option of IV with mild sedation or a local. I have never had an IV and am a little hesitant to get one if I don't really need it. Otherwise, pretty excited to get it done and over with.

Nice! Hope it goes smoothly!

Depends on how well he shaves the area.

lunchbox12682 wrote:
tuffalobuffalo wrote:
Mixolyde wrote:

Got my surgery date scheduled. Have the option of IV with mild sedation or a local. I have never had an IV and am a little hesitant to get one if I don't really need it. Otherwise, pretty excited to get it done and over with.

Nice! Hope it goes smoothly!

Depends on how well he shaves the area.

They said they'd do it for me, since I've never done it before.

Enjoy your recovery time. I still think fondly about the entire weekend I spent in bed playing video games...

Pinkerton wrote:

Enjoy your recovery time. I still think fondly about the entire weekend I spent in bed playing video games...

Ha, sure. My kids are almost 4 and almost 1. We'll see how that goes. I'll make my wife do the lifting, but the older girl basically can't leave me alone. Unless I get a hotel room...

Mixolyde wrote:

They said they'd do it for me, since I've never done it before.

And in my experience, they'll do a much better job and way more quickly and safely.

You'll be in good hands.

Get the IV sedation. It’ll make things easier, and the part that goes inside the vein after the puncture is soft flexible plastic so it’s actually not a bother at all. Might as well get used to it.

I was told (by my wife) that it’s time for this, as she can no longer take birth control and I don’t want (more) kids at age 45.

The search for the doctor begins next week. Given the complications my brother had (2 years of painful swelling, little too no sex due to pain, and eventual expensive reversal) I’m not looking forward to this procedure.

That sounds awful; I don't blame you for being concerned. Perhaps your initial consult will help the situation.

I'm fortunate to be among the majority of men that have had no issues. It's been nine years and things are good.

With that said, I hope things are getting better for Hobear.

Ha, thanks guys for worrying about my balls! I have little to no pain these days. Odd swelling on one side and thankfully very few issues these days. However, I am jealous of my friend who was up and at them within a day or two with no issues.

Dezlen, definitely find a doctor who will take your family history seriously and consult with you more than 10 minutes before the meeting.

You can look at alternatives like papaya seeds for sperm control as well to keep your numbers down with checks as well if the issue sounds concerning for possible surgery. Once you snip there is no guarantee it will go well so take that serious and find a physician who will educate and evaluate you as a patient. Even reversals don't always fix the problem.