The Big Board-Gaming Catch-All

MikeSands wrote:
jigsawhc wrote:

I agree. We've played my copy of Oath twice and while I love it so far and think I will continue too I can see where it is not for everyone.

Yeah, I think it's a combination of these:
* There's a lot going on with the board and cards, which I have seen overwhelm a few people on their first game.
* You have to accept that it's a game about king-making. Sometimes you may only be in a place to help or hinder someone else's win and not have a shot yourself.
* Big plays can totally alter the game state without warning.

Totally correct. But for me, I have a fine time playing but I feel zero investment in the world or in the outcome, which is certainly not the case when I play Root or Pax Pamir 2. I want to win, naturally, but it's an light, abstracted, fantasy romp. This means that I don't care one bit about the "legacy" portion that is at the heart of the design. That's not a draw at all, and I'm not wondering what might happen in my second additive play of the game. But most of my friends are very intrigued by it, rightly so.

Natus, I'd guess that if you don't care about the changing world, that doesn't really matter much.
Ultimately it determines: the game board at the start, the Oath victory condition, and slowly evolves the card deck. If you don't track it that just means: you get a slightly different game each time.

(I *do* really enjoy watching the way my set has changed, but I have also thought a bit about how it seems to players who don't know that history... and I think it's totally okay to ignore it and deal with the game in front of you).

Apparently FFG has been publishing free print and play modules for Arkham Horror LCG for a while now, but I never knew. They just dropped another one today. Seems like an awesome thing to do, and a great way for folks curious about the game to check it out!

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/e...

Badges for BGGCon in Dallas just went on sale! I got mine, haven't been before, very excited!

Anyone have an opinion(s) on Fallout with the New California and/or Atomic Bonds expansions? I bought the base game years ago and it’s still unplayed. I’m looking to play with my wife and the cooperative experience offered in the expansions is appealing. For a non-hardcore tabletop gamer, my wife, Fallout a decent collaborative experience?

Thanks,
Chad

chooka1 wrote:

Anyone have an opinion(s) on Fallout with the New California and/or Atomic Bonds expansions? I bought the base game years ago and it’s still unplayed. I’m looking to play with my wife and the cooperative experience offered in the expansions is appealing. For a non-hardcore tabletop gamer, my wife, Fallout a decent collaborative experience?

Thanks,
Chad

I've played the base game with no expansions and had fun with it (though I can say I am on the harder-core side of things). I played a friend's copy, though he plans to pickup the expansions for that exact reason, the co-op play. It's not hard to see it as a fun co-op experience. If you and your wife are into fallout, I think a non-hardcore tabletop gamer can get into it. If that doesn't apply, make sure you've played it through solo a few times so you can speed the game along without having to look alot of things up.

Thank you. Good comments. I’ll try with my Fallout video game friend first as he will have more patience as we learn the rules.

chooka1 wrote:

Anyone have an opinion(s) on Fallout with the New California and/or Atomic Bonds expansions? I bought the base game years ago and it’s still unplayed. I’m looking to play with my wife and the cooperative experience offered in the expansions is appealing. For a non-hardcore tabletop gamer, my wife, Fallout a decent collaborative experience?

I am super interested in hearing more about this as well. I've thought about buying the whole kit and caboodle for co-op, but it feels like a big jump to buy the game and two expansions without having played. I was excited about the base game but the reviews seemed to universally knock it for ending abruptly.

I have been off of here for a while now, so apologies if this has come up already, but man, I love Dwellings of Eldervale. Gorgeous game with the best utility packaging I have ever seen. For a game its size, it really cuts down on set up time. a delicious combination of worker placement, engine building, area control, and dice rolling. Each of these is, in itself, straight forward and pretty simple. What makes it so fun for me is how these combine and work together. 16 different player factions, two for each of the 8 "elements" in the game. All have 6 workers, and three non-worker units, a dragon, a warrior, and a wizard. These basically have different costs to activate (once activated, you can't lose them) and different power in fights and placement rules. Build the world as you go from hexagonal tiles.

Each turn you either place a unit on the map or pull all of them off. What is great is that pulling them off isn't a wasted turn in most games, but actually an opportunity to do a lot of cool things by placing the withdrawn units on action spots of your tableau cards to gain resources, recruit new units, building dwellings, or other actions, depending on the cards you acquire.

There are tons of videos out there about it, so I will stop singing its praises. It really is a gorgeous and well constructed game that is easily in my top 10 with its blending of many different mechanics in such a smooth manner. Not a huge surprise, given it is the same designer who created another favorite of mine, Manhattan Project: Energy Empire. It is also on TTS (just no where near a pretty as the physical version). I overspent on a barely used Legendary version, but I think the standard retail in coming out soon, minus the damn fine monster minis.

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bhchrist wrote:

I love Dwellings of Eldervale.

Thank you for posting about this. Honestly, this game has looked too good to be true. Nice to know it's being well-received.

Played LetterJam with 4 people on Friday. Its a coop game where everyone has a letter card in front of them facing everyone else. You help your teammates guess the letter card in front of them by using it a word and indicating to them what position(s) their letter is in the word.

At the end, if you have correctly surmised your letters you should be able to rearrange the cards you've never seen, face down into a word.

Its basically Hanabi, the word game. Really enjoyed it! We've owned it for almost a year so it was great to get our friends over to try it.

Natus wrote:
bhchrist wrote:

I love Dwellings of Eldervale.

Thank you for posting about this. Honestly, this game has looked too good to be true. Nice to know it's being well-received.

You are welcome. I played it twice at my friend's place a couple weeks ago in our first live boardgame session in a loooong time. He got the Kickstarter. I then proceeded to overpay for the one trade-in Legendary edition at Noble Knight Games (which is local for me). Turns out, my friend went out and got a second copy as a gift for his son who is in college at Vanderbilt, who also loved it.

I don't regret it at all. Could I do without the sound making mini bases? Totally. Do they make me snicker every time they roar or crackle? Hells yeah. But the game itself? Great. I need to start introducing in the mini-expansion options to open it up further, but the base set up so far has been just fine. Taught it to 3 GWJers this morning on TTS.

bhchrist wrote:

I love Dwellings of Eldervale.

It's the first Euro I've been interested in since forever. The Secret Cabal guys raved about it. I found someone on a TTS Discord who was willing to teach it to me and TheWalt, and it was a good time! I definitely want to try it again.

Fedaykin98 wrote:
bhchrist wrote:

I love Dwellings of Eldervale.

It's the first Euro I've been interested in since forever. The Secret Cabal guys raved about it. I found someone on a TTS Discord who was willing to teach it to me and TheWalt, and it was a good time! I definitely want to try it again.

I hope it appears on BGA soon.

Fedaykin98 wrote:

Badges for BGGCon in Dallas just went on sale! I got mine, haven't been before, very excited! :D

If anyone else is going, hotel rooms at the con rate just went online! I'm told they usually sell out in minutes. Check your email.

Fedaykin98 wrote:
bhchrist wrote:

I love Dwellings of Eldervale.

It's the first Euro I've been interested in since forever. The Secret Cabal guys raved about it. I found someone on a TTS Discord who was willing to teach it to me and TheWalt, and it was a good time! I definitely want to try it again.

Just finished playing another game on TTS this morning, a two player with Karnak. Played very different than the first one we played. Getting close to introducing some alternative ruin tiles and tactic tokens. You really shape your approach around your faction, the map, and magic cards in hand. I got a huge magic card bonus end game (20 pts). We will see how it stands the test of time, but it is really creeping to a top 5 spot. I hope the retail is available soon for more people to experience it.

I broke out Fallout for the first time and played a couple of rounds. Nice game. Love the theme and choose your own adventure aspect. I understand, I think, the frustration with the game suddenly ending and the potentially "starting from behind" depending on whether a majority of players draw a certain faction agenda card. I can live with the idea of the ride being more important than the destination.
That being said, I may order Fallout Atomic Bonds and New California for the co-op.
Any word on additional expansions?

Fallout Shelter reviews are good. Almost all of them say something along the lines of, "I didn't expect to like this game so much.". I may order too as we like worker placement.
Impressions?

Thanks,
Chad

chooka1 wrote:

Fallout Shelter reviews are good. Almost all of them say something along the lines of, "I didn't expect to like this game so much."

Very nice! Always great to have those unexpected surprises.

My group finished our play of The King's Dilemma last night.

I'm really impressed by the conclusion: it felt really epic, and that we'd earned/built up to those final events. Great stuff all round.

Highly recommend this one: it's in the top legacy games with the Pandemic Legacy seasons.

MikeSands wrote:

My group finished our play of The King's Dilemma last night.

I'm really impressed by the conclusion: it felt really epic, and that we'd earned/built up to those final events. Great stuff all round.

Highly recommend this one: it's in the top legacy games with the Pandemic Legacy seasons.

Happy for you. I have heard great things about it. What was the group size?

bhchrist wrote:
MikeSands wrote:

My group finished our play of The King's Dilemma last night.

Happy for you. I have heard great things about it. What was the group size?

We had a full five. I think it should work just as well with four, but I suspect three would lead to a bit less fun in the discussions around each vote.

We’re starting our second game of this next week. Really like it so far, the story telling and the mystery of how to do well is working for us.

jonnypolite wrote:

We’re starting our second game of this next week. Really like it so far, the story telling and the mystery of how to do well is working for us.

I feel like the main thing they got right is the constant tension between:
* Your house goals
* Your closed agenda goals
* Your open agenda goals
* What you actually think about the story elements (e.g.: "Look, we can't just say murder is okay!")
* The general good of the kingdom.
* Stopping the other players reaching their goals.
* Making sure you have enough power/money to have options later in the game.

That's a lot of things in tension, and that means that every decision feels like it has a lot riding on it.

I can't wait to restart regular board game nights, and The King's Dilemma is near the top of my list. I think it will be a ton of fun with my friends.

In other news, I bought Arkham Horror when it came out in 2016, and my wife and I are finally playing the second scenario! I really loved the idea of this game, and have enjoyed the gameplay, but we've never managed - until today!

Fedaykin98 wrote:

I can't wait to restart regular board game nights

Over here I’m leaning Oath or Gloomhaven. Gotta see if the group agrees though.

MikeSands wrote:

My group finished our play of The King's Dilemma last night.

I'm really impressed by the conclusion: it felt really epic, and that we'd earned/built up to those final events. Great stuff all round.

Highly recommend this one: it's in the top legacy games with the Pandemic Legacy seasons.

We will be starting in on our third king tonight and I don't think I have ever played a game that so seamlessly facilitates discussion, bribing and underhanded plays as well as King's Dilemma does. I can see why it's not for everyone but for my group it was like slipping on a pair of well worn gloves.

Fredrik_S wrote:
MikeSands wrote:

My group finished our play of The King's Dilemma last night.

I'm really impressed by the conclusion: it felt really epic, and that we'd earned/built up to those final events. Great stuff all round.

Highly recommend this one: it's in the top legacy games with the Pandemic Legacy seasons.

We will be starting in on our third king tonight and I don't think I have ever played a game that so seamlessly facilitates discussion, bribing and underhanded plays as well as King's Dilemma does. I can see why it's not for everyone but for my group it was like slipping on a pair of well worn gloves.

Does this mean 3rd playthrough, or does the game involve cycling through kings?

polypusher wrote:
Fredrik_S wrote:

We will be starting in on our third king tonight and I don't think I have ever played a game that so seamlessly facilitates discussion, bribing and underhanded plays as well as King's Dilemma does. I can see why it's not for everyone but for my group it was like slipping on a pair of well worn gloves.

Does this mean 3rd playthrough, or does the game involve cycling through kings?

Each game session is one king's rule. At the end of each game session the king either dies, abdicates the throne, or is ousted. The game simulates 100's of years in the life of a kingdom. No one actually plays as the king but he is merely a figure head (and in game mechanics a marker for the when the game ends) while the players are the power behind the throne making all the decisions.

We started our weekly in person gaming session again a couple of weeks ago, with the requirement that everyone be fully vaccinated. After a year of online gaming using discord, seeing everyone in person and playing across the table was emotional, everyone was practically giddy. It was an amazing feeling.

jonnypolite wrote:

We started our weekly in person gaming session again a couple of weeks ago, with the requirement that everyone be fully vaccinated. After a year of online gaming using discord, seeing everyone in person and playing across the table was emotional, everyone was practically giddy. It was an amazing feeling.

We did one night a few weeks ago where we finally played Rising Sun. Being together in person was completely fantastic, but no one seemed particularly wowed by Rising Sun. We played with four. Maybe the fun only happens when people know how it's "meant" to be played, ala Cosmic Encounter.