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fleabagmatt wrote:

I have a couple of issues/questions about voice chat.

1. When I'm waiting to respawn, can others hear me talk? I assume so but I wasn't sure.

2. For some reason I'm having a problem that when I hit the key for voice chat in game, everything freezes for a couple seconds. It usually ends up in me getting dead. Unfortunately last night it meant Brainz almost being dead as he jumped out a second floor window into the fray expecting me to hit him with an uber. The game unfroze to me standing in a corner and Brainz yelling "goddamnit!". Sorry.

I don't know if this is an issue with my iMac, the game itself, or maybe my usb mic. I haven't been able to find much info online, but maybe I'm just not using the right search words.

The only people who can hear you when you are dead are other dead people.

And this is the first I have heard of freezing issues when trying to talk, the only thing I can think of is check your settings in game and on the system. Of course, I don't know what you would be looking for. I know I kept freezing last night, it was unpleasant. But then again, my ping also reached 700, so I think my issues are different from yours.

BNice wrote:

We should discuss if Odd Job/Arctic Commando are allowed in Goldeneye next.

Ooooo and after that Pokeballs in Smash Bros.

I'm anti all of those things in those games but for some reason I'm fine with crits in TF2. I think it's because I'm not good so I don't feel that pang of annoyance when someone clearly worse than me gets a lucky kill.

Blue shells in Mario Kart.

fleabagmatt wrote:

Unfortunately last night it meant Brainz almost being dead as he jumped out a second floor window into the fray expecting me to hit him with an uber. The game unfroze to me standing in a corner and Brainz yelling "goddamnit!". Sorry.

I don't remember this happening, but if it was really me, apologies for cursing about it in chat. I try to keep that to a minimum. Hope you can find a solution for your freezing problem, that sounds really frustrating.

I'm pro random crits because they don't effect medics and snipers in the same way it does other classes. I'm usually not trying to shoot people with my syringe gun and try to avoid trouble when I can anyway. As far as snipers are concerned, headshots = crits, so it shouldn't matter.

Two exceptions:
Lucky ubersaw crit = Awesome
Lucky SMG crit = "Oh, hi! I'm a heavy for a second or two now!"

MyBrainHz wrote:
fleabagmatt wrote:

Unfortunately last night it meant Brainz almost being dead as he jumped out a second floor window into the fray expecting me to hit him with an uber. The game unfroze to me standing in a corner and Brainz yelling "goddamnit!". Sorry.

I don't remember this happening, but if it was really me, apologies for cursing about it in chat. I try to keep that to a minimum. Hope you can find a solution for your freezing problem, that sounds really frustrating.

I vaguely remember wanting to jump out of a window with an uber. But if I cursed, it had to do with my lag and constantly ending up on the other side of the level when I tried to take out a base, and nothing to do with your freezing.

MyBrainHz wrote:
fleabagmatt wrote:

Unfortunately last night it meant Brainz almost being dead as he jumped out a second floor window into the fray expecting me to hit him with an uber. The game unfroze to me standing in a corner and Brainz yelling "goddamnit!". Sorry.

I don't remember this happening, but if it was really me, apologies for cursing about it in chat. I try to keep that to a minimum. Hope you can find a solution for your freezing problem, that sounds really frustrating.

To be fair brainz we had some idiot pubbies on last night.

Cross-posting from the Winter Tourney thread.

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On the subject of watching recorded matches - it's great that Valve added backwards compatibility to the game replay engine, but some of the resulting graphical glitches are a little creepy. I was watching the HOT / BOB Doublecross match, and this guy appeared on the bridge intermittently
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Grubber788 wrote:

Two exceptions:
Lucky ubersaw crit = Awesome
Lucky SMG crit = "Oh, hi! I'm a heavy for a second or two now!"

People still use the SMG?

There's an SMG in the game?

VTSupie wrote:
Grubber788 wrote:

Two exceptions:
Lucky ubersaw crit = Awesome
Lucky SMG crit = "Oh, hi! I'm a heavy for a second or two now!"

People still use the SMG?

I had a pubbie shooting at me with an SMG awhile back. I wanted to switch to his team and talk to him about his mistake.

Psych wrote:
VTSupie wrote:
Grubber788 wrote:

Two exceptions:
Lucky ubersaw crit = Awesome
Lucky SMG crit = "Oh, hi! I'm a heavy for a second or two now!"

People still use the SMG?

I had a pubbie shooting at me with an SMG awhile back. I wanted to switch to his team and talk to him about his mistake.

As someone who was out of the loop for a long while, and never played sniper much to begin with, can someone explain to me what's wrong with the smg?

I use the SMG because:

I don't like Jarate with the rifle, because I'm too far back to use it too well and if someone gets close enough for me to use it, I'm running away at that point, not fighting.

I don't like the Razorback because it's telling the spies that they've already won the battle; it gets annoying with the Eternal Reward, but if you listen for footsteps and decloak and stay with your teammates, you'll be fine.

I don't like the Darwin's danger shield because good snipers will headshot you anyway. The full set seems worthless to me, but I don't have the hat so I've never tried to use it.

At close range, the SMG does ~8 dmg/shot at close range which means it can easily deal 50-100 dmg in roughly a second. If a scout or pyro closes on me, I usually shoot my rifle once, scoped if I'm lucky, unscoped if I'm not and spray with the SMG as I'm running. I've gotten out of a lot of nasty situations for that reason. Plus, getting killed by the SMG hurts peoples' pride. It's like a classic fish kill.

But if you have a SMG, you don't get to equip yourself with a jar of piss, A JAR OF PISS!

I carry a jar of urine, therefore your arguments are not valid.

The SMG is only good vs pyros and scouts who you somehow spot before they get on you. Most will know to not walk in front of a sniper's incredibly narrow vision and won't fire until they are point blank. In those cases, the sniper never stood a chance anyway.

Jarate can break a cart push, put out fires, such as from oh-so-annoying flares, reveal spies and generally screw them up, and gives the sniper a decent chance in 1 on 1 combat against any class, which will often turn into melee fights for the sniper, since most people try to sneak up on him. Being able to kill anybody in one or two machete hits is nothing to sneeze at.

fleabagmatt wrote:

2. For some reason I'm having a problem that when I hit the key for voice chat in game, everything freezes for a couple seconds.

This happens to me on the rare occasion when I play on my mbp whether I use my USB headset/mic or I use the built-in. The freeze usually happens the first time I click PTT, but then subsequent attempts at voice comm do not result in a freeze for the next few seconds. I usually just tap PTT right when I spawn and then every few seconds when I'm not in active combat to "clear out" the freeze. I know it's not ideal, but it's an alternative if you're not booting to Windows to play.
As we've seen Malor attest to many times ( ), the game will run much better on your iMac if you boot to windows to play. I highly recommend this course of action when you know you're in for extended play sessions (e.g. tourney games or Mon/Fri night games).

Snipering used to be a gentleman's sport; now it's all about the piss.

I will maintain tradition and only use the original three weapons.

Heathens.

VTSupie wrote:

But if you have a SMG, you don't get to equip yourself with a jar of piss, A JAR OF PISS!

Pee sniper and SMG work together really well.

FedoraMcQuaid wrote:
VTSupie wrote:

But if you have a SMG, you don't get to equip yourself with a jar of piss, A JAR OF PISS!

Pee sniper and SMG work together really well.

Is pee sniper in any way related to Gunsniper?

Radical Ans wrote:
FedoraMcQuaid wrote:
VTSupie wrote:

But if you have a SMG, you don't get to equip yourself with a jar of piss, A JAR OF PISS!

Pee sniper and SMG work together really well.

Is pee sniper in any way related to Gunsniper?

Pee sniper is in no way related to GUNSNIPER! How dare you!

SCREENSHOT DUMP!

Need rake??
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Engy is on fire this game!
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Flying spies now?
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ukick is very limber.
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Go into the light, Deftly.
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fleabagmatt wrote:

I have a couple of issues/questions about voice chat.

1. When I'm waiting to respawn, can others hear me talk? I assume so but I wasn't sure.

Not sure if anyone has told you yet but, unless all-talk is on, you can only talk to other dead people while waiting to respawn.

VTSupie wrote:
Grubber788 wrote:

Two exceptions:
Lucky ubersaw crit = Awesome
Lucky SMG crit = "Oh, hi! I'm a heavy for a second or two now!"

People still use the SMG?

My Sniper evolution has gone full circle.
I started with SMG (before crazy weapon drops). I switched to Jarate but found it was only good for fires. Almost everyone who used to panic when getting pissd on have learned to adapt. It seems to have lost it's relative effectiveness (IMHO). As spies got bold again I saw backstabs as a bigger problem so I went Razorback. Well spies have figured out, screw it, let's just shoot you in the head instead of stabbing you if you wear that. So now I am back to SMG as it fills that void where someone is too close to snipe but too far to chop.

It proved effective last night on several spies.

iaintgotnopants wrote:

Not sure if anyone has told you yet but, unless all-talk is on, you can only talk to other dead people while waiting to respawn. :)

This explains a lot. I've been really working on communicating lately. Problem is nobody can hear me because I'm always dead.

As for the freezing issue, I guess for the time being I'll try Phishposer's technique of periodically hitting the talk key to clear things out. As much as I'd like to run the game through bootcamp, I don't think I can justify the cost of buying a copy of Windows to my wife just so I can play TF2.

And Brainz, maybe it wasn't you that jumped out the window, I can't recall for sure. I was jumping around a lot trying to keep everybody healed. It was one of the goodjers playing a heavy, though. Also, I didn't mean to sound like I felt like you were yelling at me, I just felt bad that you were out there in the middle of everything with no uber to protect you. In the end I got out and popped it anyways, so no real harm done.

Dimmerswitch wrote:
Fxeni wrote:

Bah, the gloves could be worse. Makes them a nice target for pyros, more specifically the axe.

Speaking of which, I got a name tag and I need a name for the axe. Any suggestions? :P

Lemme this you something
This and you shall recieve

Regardless of the name, the description should be "on the plus side, the fire is out now" :P

I'm liking the sound of these, the description in particular. I suppose I'll have to trade someone for the description tag.

Grubber788 wrote:
Fxeni wrote:

Speaking of which, I got a name tag and I need a name for the axe. Any suggestions? :P

If recent history is a guide, you should name it:

"I'm going to violate you, Grubber."

Only because you violate people's faces. With bullets.

As far as the SMG goes, I can see it's potential usefulness. I just like having jarate on hand to help take down a bunch of people grouped together.

Fxeni wrote:
Dimmerswitch wrote:
Fxeni wrote:

Bah, the gloves could be worse. Makes them a nice target for pyros, more specifically the axe.

Speaking of which, I got a name tag and I need a name for the axe. Any suggestions? :P

Lemme this you something
This and you shall recieve

Regardless of the name, the description should be "on the plus side, the fire is out now" :P

I'm liking the sound of these, the description in particular. I suppose I'll have to trade someone for the description tag.

That description is perfect for the axtinguisher.

Yeah, I just find jarate to be way to useful. Marking spies, extinguishing teammates and most of all, using it to help clear areas. If there are a lot of enemies grouped up I like to throw the jarate before I start trying to pick them off. This can help your team clear an area faster.

I like the SMG, and it does to a lot of damage, but I like being more that the guy that sits behind everyone shooting heads. At least with jarate I can do a few other things to help out.

I believe all snipers should use the jarate. It helps mark spies and makes snipers more useful to the team. The mini-crits from jarate can really help win group battles. If it makes the sniper a little weaker in one-to-one combat that's fine. The team is better off with the jarate.

The Jarate is meant to go with the Huntsman, if you're a rifle sniper and are close enough to land a jarate shot, you're doing it wrong...

Mex wrote:

The Jarate is meant to go with the Huntsman, if you're a rifle sniper and are close enough to land a jarate shot, you're doing it wrong...

Or an awesome GUNSNIPER. But really, in a lot of areas where I snipe the only people I can't jarate are opposing snipers. Otherwise it is easy to quick run up behind a heavy/medic pair, throw some pee, and head back to a sniping distance.