TV Mounting Question

In about a month, I'll be moving into a new home. The living room in the house features a stone fireplace above which is the only place I can really keep my TV. My problem is that I do not want to drill a mount into the masonry, but I'm not comfortable just placing the TV up on the mantle either. The mantle is fairly deep (approx 10"), and the current owner has theirs just sitting their as you can see below, but I'm not really willing to just set mine up there. I have friends with kids, and friends who act like kids, so it would only be a matter of time. So my questions:

1 - Has anyone seen or heard of a way to safely mount a TV to the mantle itself? My concerns with this are that I have had this TV wall mounted since the day I bought it and don't really know how top heavy it is on its base. I'd think this has been done, but my Google searches have come up empty.

2 - Has anyone mounted a TV into stone or brick? My concerns here are that this is real masonry and it would obviously impact the resale value down the road. Not only that it would require some tools I do not have.

Unfortunately, the wall to the left of the picture is a large patio door, which takes that wall out and would produce a glare on the wall to the right... so I'm left without much of an option. So... any ideas?

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Well, mounting directly into the masonry isn't as hard as you'd think; all you'd need is a light hammer drill and a masonry bit of the proper size along with concrete anchors. That said, I can't recommend against it enough, because as you point out that is a gorgeous bit of stonework and drilling into it would be horrid.

One thing you could possibly do would be to tie something into the ceiling joists and run some sort of cable to the mantle and then attach the TV to that with the stabilizer kits that usually come with TVs these days. Beyond that, I can't think of much else you could really do.

How big is your television? If it isn't too heavy you could add a 'nailer' between the two bookshelves.
Cut two nice, thick beams/boards to a little less than half the distance from the shelf to the ceiling. Then take another nice thick beam that stretches the length of the fireplace and firmly attach it to the tops of the boards to create a 'shelf.'
You should be able to use the shelf as a solid starting place and if you can pre-drill the bookshelf walls and use nuts/bolts then the whole assembly should be able to carry quite a bit of weight.
The size and weight of your television, and the height you want it mounted will be the biggest factors to take into consideration.

My solution: Find a beam wide enough to use the mount you want to use, then add that to the current setup.

Not sure I'm explaining this properly... urge to scan a sketch... growing!

I've never thought mounting a TV above a fireplace is wise. Heat and smoke both rise.

Plus, if it's an LCD, you're going to be looking at a TV from a low angle, which generally causes color wash out in LCDs to be the worst.

If that's all you have, though, I guess that's what you deal with.

MannishBoy wrote:

I've never thought mounting a TV above a fireplace is wise. Heat and smoke both rise.

That's the first thing I thought about when I saw this. Fireplaces are very uncommon in Israel because its a very warm country. When I lived in the US we did have fireplaces but we rarely lit them because Florida also has a warm clement . I guess if the fireplace is just a decorating piece it's fine but if it's an active one I guess you should be careful with it

MannishBoy wrote:

Plus, if it's an LCD, you're going to be looking at a TV from a low angle, which generally causes color wash out in LCDs to be the worst.

We had our Samsung 46D6000 (basic 3d model ) installed on a brick/plaster wall (cement and masonry is the standard here ) a few weeks ago by a professional installer. It's not really something I can't do but I'd rather pay someone that did it a million times .

The installer said that the TV should be somewhere between 80cm-90cm off the floor so you won't be watching tv with your pupils raised. I'm not really sure what it's about I'm guessing it's about eye strain . With a TV mounted that high it might give the watchers neck strain. The only places i know to mount TV this high are restaurants so the can cover a large area.

Maybe it's possible to hang it off the ceiling . There are also installers who make a tunnel in the wall for you so you can put the wires through it which looks esthetic but I guess it's not really an option with a fireplace . Anyways interior design was never one of my strong points.

I've recently tried to figure out how to set a wire an Ethernet cable to the TV and found local post with 3 solutions : nail clips (ugly but easy and cheap 2$ for 100), plastic tunnels (look better but more work and more expensive), and disc saw a tunnel into the wall (looks best after finished but does take more effort ). I'm debating if to get someone to do it or do it myself. I'll generally pick the easier method.

Niseg wrote:

I've recently tried to figure out how to set a wire an Ethernet cable to the TV and found local post with 3 solutions : nail clips (ugly but easy and cheap 2$ for 100), plastic tunnels (look better but more work and more expensive), and disc saw a tunnel into the wall (looks best after finished but does take more effort ). I'm debating if to get someone to do it or do it myself. I'll generally pick the easier method.

You may have already thought of this, but a wireless ethernet bridge is an option if you already have wifi in your home.

I'd paint and mount a plywood door hinged to the bookshelf concealing the area over the mantle. Put the tv on a vesa mount attached to the plywood, and hide the electronics behind the door standing vertically. Use a rf remote to control the setup. If you move out just take it down and repair the side of the book case.

LouZiffer wrote:

You may have already thought of this, but a wireless ethernet bridge is an option if you already have wifi in your home.

This is why I'm not in a hurry to do this. I have my old dir-615 with dd-wrt setup as a wireless bridge . I think I'm getting about 30mbps at the living room . We still have a few stability problems so I might install dd-wrt on my Tp-Link 1043.

Thanks for the input guys, some good ideas to consider here. I'm also looking into the possibility of some safety straps. Seem to be designed for earthquakes and children, but might just do the trick for me and not be as much of an eye sore.

There are also wireless HDMI repeaters, a friend of mine has one, they're expensive considering you can get a 30' cable cheap from monoprice but some people aren't allowed to have cables or the SO freaks out.

I just hung a TV yesterday actually. I got a mounting set by a company called Sanus. Their kits include both wood and stone mounting hardware, and they provide instructions as to how to do it. But I do agree with people that putting holes in that stonework would be a crime against home design. What I would suggest though is buying a Sanus set just for the rails that attach to the TV itself. That would give you some nice "handholds" for whatever mounting idea you come up with.

That's a terrible height. You either don't watch enough TV to warrant putting one in that room, or you are going to get terrible neck/eye strain. You don't have a separate room? It looks like a gorgeous house, I would that that's the sitting/visiting room and there's another for day to day 'living'. That's the norm around here anyway.

ibdoomed wrote:

That's a terrible height. You either don't watch enough TV to warrant putting one in that room, or you are going to get terrible neck/eye strain. You don't have a separate room? It looks like a gorgeous house, I would that that's the sitting/visiting room and there's another for day to day 'living'. That's the norm around here anyway.

It's really not as bad as it looks. The room is long so we will be sitting probably a good 12' - 15' back. We probably only watch 1-2 hours of TV per night, so I'm not concerned about neck pain or anything. Plus its an open floor plan so there will be a lot of viewing from the kitchen/dining nook area. In our current place, the TV is mounted at about 5.5' and we watch at a much closer distance. And yes, there is another family room in the house that will have a smaller TV in it.

Our TV is mounted above the mantle and it's really not so bad. I don't know that I'd want to spend hours doing console gaming on it, but for watching movies and whatever it's just fine. Remember, movie screens are quite high as well.