Need for Speed: Most Wanted - A Criterion Joint (Catch-all)

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Criterion is [size=8]mandated to be[/size] back at it: Hot Pursuit driving model in a Paradise open-world. On the one hand, it's so satisfying to see the series that got me into racing games in the hands of a studio that hasn't pooped the bed like EA Black Box did. On the other hand... will we ever get a Burnout 6?

Until then (or possibly, ironically, nixing any chance of then), October 30 brings us this:

Is that the Hot Pursuit driving model? Looked a bit more Burnout-esque to me, but it's hard to tell.

Regardless, it looks seriously fun and I will gladly throw my money at Criterion.

Dreaded Gazebo wrote:

Is that the Hot Pursuit driving model? Looked a bit more Burnout-esque to me, but it's hard to tell.

The Porsche looks really heavy, especially on hits and landings, compared to cars in Burnout, which are more like greased aluminum cans with rockets attached.

Dreaded Gazebo wrote:

Regardless, it looks seriously fun and I will gladly throw my money at Criterion.

I'm of two minds about it. Of course I'm going to buy it and no doubt enjoy it. But will fueling the success of Criterion NFS games lessen the chance of EA funding another Burnout? Especially comparing the values of those two brands? My guess is "certainly", which would be really devastating to the arcade racing genre. The Burnout games are unreproducible, and even markedly different from Hot Pursuit.

Paradise 2.0 or 1.5 or whatever is up my alley.

I'm going to wait to hear Jeff Gerstmann's response to it, he seems to love the original like I do and I couldn't stand the most recent Criterion NFS.

trueheart78 wrote:

I'm going to wait to hear Jeff Gerstmann's response to it, he seems to love the original like I do and I couldn't stand the most recent Criterion NFS.

Heh, I was just re-reading the Hot Pursuit thread the other day, and you could not stand it at all. I'd completely lost faith in NFS by Underground 2, so I have no experience with the original MW. I'd be curious to know if there's any comparison to be made at all, or if this is a fresh start continuation of Hot Pursuit.

Sort of a Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit 2. Oh, no wait. Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit 3 4? Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit 2: Most Wanted. 2.

trueheart78 wrote:

I'm going to wait to hear Jeff Gerstmann's response to it, he seems to love the original like I do and I couldn't stand the most recent Criterion NFS.

I fell for the hype and picked up that Criterion developed NFS at some point when it went on sale. It took a few hours, but I kinda grew to hate it. It wasn't a Need for Speed game. It was a Burnout game with a couple of Need for Speed bits shoved on top of it. The cars handled wrong, the audio was lame, and the whole thing just felt... off.

Criterion was fine making perfectly good Burnout games. Please get your Burnout out of my Need for Speed.

Thin_J wrote:
trueheart78 wrote:

I'm going to wait to hear Jeff Gerstmann's response to it, he seems to love the original like I do and I couldn't stand the most recent Criterion NFS.

I fell for the hype and picked up that Criterion developed NFS at some point when it went on sale. It took a few hours, but I kinda grew to hate it. It wasn't a Need for Speed game. It was a Burnout game with a couple of Need for Speed bits shoved on top of it. The cars handled wrong, the audio was lame, and the whole thing just felt... off.

Criterion was fine making perfectly good Burnout games. Please get your Burnout out of my Need for Speed.

I think it straddled the line such that I got the complete opposite impression: it wasn't a Burnout game, it was a Need for Speed game with a couple Burnout bits on top. The cars were too heavy, the collisions not explosive enough, the drifting was off. But I can see how its direction would be more palatable to one side of the fence than the other.

Thin_J wrote:
trueheart78 wrote:

I'm going to wait to hear Jeff Gerstmann's response to it, he seems to love the original like I do and I couldn't stand the most recent Criterion NFS.

I fell for the hype and picked up that Criterion developed NFS at some point when it went on sale. It took a few hours, but I kinda grew to hate it. It wasn't a Need for Speed game. It was a Burnout game with a couple of Need for Speed bits shoved on top of it. The cars handled wrong, the audio was lame, and the whole thing just felt... off.

Criterion was fine making perfectly good Burnout games. Please get your Burnout out of my Need for Speed.

Hmm, I actually really enjoyed the last NFS Hot Pursuit. It felt good, had a nice mix of races and had that speedwall thingie which let us challenge each others times. This looks like it could be fun too. Still... bad release date. I'll be busy playing Assassin's Creed 3.... but maybe that's not a bad thing as by the time I get around to playing this, it will be on sale! Woot!

Wait a minute, did Thin_j just agree with something I said?

*head explodes*

Ugh, open world. Nothing says fun like wondering around aimlessly inside the game to find a game to play.

I had a lot of fun with Hot Pursuit, but going open world makes this a sale purchase.

MrDeVil909 wrote:

Ugh, open world. Nothing says fun like wondering around aimlessly inside the game to find a game to play.

I had a lot of fun with Hot Pursuit, but going open world makes this a sale purchase.

Criterion have been pretty open about the hard lessons they learned with open worlds in Paradise. Hot Pursuit was a great return to closed circuits on open roads, and all as parts of a larger organic world. So if nothing else about MW, I'm really interested to see how they're going to approach open world with their second kick at the can.

Wait, what's wrong with open world? You can drive the car you want, as fast as you want without any predetermined race and just have a bit of fun.

I just picked up the first Hot Pursuit during the Amazon sale ($5) and was pleasantly surprised. Looking forward to this.

BlackSabre wrote:

Wait, what's wrong with open world? You can drive the car you want, as fast as you want without any predetermined race and just have a bit of fun.

I generally don't like open worlds. Most of the time the 'world' is just an impediment to the fun part of the game.

Driving between events is an order of magnitude more difficult than picking them from a menu, and driving around without being in a race is the definition of 'unfun' to me.

Gravey wrote:

Criterion have been pretty open about the hard lessons they learned with open worlds in Paradise. Hot Pursuit was a great return to closed circuits on open roads, and all as parts of a larger organic world. So if nothing else about MW, I'm really interested to see how they're going to approach open world with their second kick at the can.

I'll definitely keep an eye after launch, but there's no way I'll pre-order this before getting some solid impressions.

MrDeVil909 wrote:

Ugh, open world. Nothing says fun like wondering around aimlessly inside the game to find a game to play.

Which is why the original MW was fantastic - you could drive to events, if you really wanted, but you could also just use the menu and jump right into them. So you could upgrade your car, tool around in it, get a feel for it, then pop into a race whenever you felt like it.

trueheart78 wrote:
MrDeVil909 wrote:

Ugh, open world. Nothing says fun like wondering around aimlessly inside the game to find a game to play.

Which is why the original MW was fantastic - you could drive to events, if you really wanted, but you could also just use the menu and jump right into them. So you could upgrade your car, tool around in it, get a feel for it, then pop into a race whenever you felt like it.

Oh riiiiigggghhhhttt! Before Hot Pursuit MW was the last NFS I'd played, but that was ages ago so I'd forgotten that. Yeah, it's awesome, so if they do that I'm all over it.

That trailer looks like Burnout Paradise 2 to me, so I'm pretty excited. I enjoyed Criterion's last NFS game up to a certain point, but i found a lot of events to be no fun, and I missed the open world from Burnout Paradise. I really hope this is better.

The more I read about this, the more excited I get. I spent more than 100 hours in Burnout Paradise. I waited a bit and picked up NFS:HP on sale. Then spent 100 hours in it. Skipped the last NFS because it didn't really look that interesting. But this one I think might get me day one.

So it's Need For Speed: Paradise?

Sounds like Paradise 2 but with NFS badging and cars. Nice combination.

BlackSabre wrote:

So it's Need For Speed: Paradise?

Sounds like Paradise 2 but with NFS badging and cars. Nice combination.

Yep.

trueheart78 wrote:

Wait a minute, did Thin_j just agree with something I said?

*head explodes*

We agree on things! ...sometimes.

But seriously, I really really really liked the original MW. I played bunches of it, upgraded a bunch of cars to the max, customized them all just the way I liked, and spent ridiculous hours in that game just running from the police.

The new Criterion NFS Hot Pursuit fizzled within two nights and I sorely regretted my purchase even at a sale price of like $20. It's just Burnout without the best parts of Burnout, and none of the great things about Need for Speed.

The more I see of this new Most Wanted the more worried I get it's just a Burnout game

Game looks nice... But there is way too much information displayed on the screen. I hope there is a way to turn it off.

Coooooool

I don't know why I want this game as much as I do. I think it's because of how much time I spent between Burnout and NFS HP.

I've been playing a lot of hot pursuit lately so I will buy this day 1 on one condition. If it doesn't farking harass me every single time it starts with 'join our online spanky club' and when I cancel that, harass me about the benefits with an unskippable screen. But I guess there is an upside to that, I'm enraged before I even get behind the wheel.

Jeff Cannata and the TRS guys talk about a preview he got:

Stoked.

Looks great! The talk of Forza Horizon at the end seemed a bit uninformed and inaccurate, though. The description they give of FH was exactly why I was avoiding it until I tried the demo.

As for NFS, this looks a lot more like Burnout:Paradise than I expected, and that could be a really good thing!

I can't take those guys serious. They hype the MP crap and they LIKE that gundam music?!

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