Cyberpunk Catch-All

No Rache Bartmoss no buy!

Razgon wrote:
maverickz wrote:

They don't have to create a new world, but they certainly have to create everything else. The characters, the story, the plot, all has to be created from scratch or close to it. With Witcher they had most a lot of that, which is I think what was meant.

Not to be a contrarian, but how did they not have to create the storylines themselves in Witcher 3? Did the Bloody Baron's storyline come from the Witcher books? As for characters, there are well-known characters in Cyberpunk as well, as well as stories (Quests) and villains.

I am with Razgon on this one. To say that with Witcher they had most of the characters, story and plot defined by the books is really not true. The story and plot in the games are far removed from anything in the books. A few main characters are coming from the books but I would argue that even those (as well as relationships between them) are often quite different from the books.

The books have created an interesting and original world (with its *high level* geography, history, lore and politics), which was certainly helpful to the games but most of the storylines and characters are invented (or in some cases re-defined) by the games. To an extent, I feel like Witcher 3 could have been a D&D game and it still would have been awesome.

Which makes me feel optimistic in regards to Cyberpunk.

I am not too familiar with the Witcher books, so I was just conjecturing. I will happily concede the point.

Man, I love how anachronistic the art in the rulebook is. Get's me right in my late 80s feels:

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Yeah, someone pointed out that back in the '80s the writers thought we would have full-body cybernetic augmentation by now but didn't even think of WiFi...

tanstaafl wrote:

Yeah, someone pointed out that back in the '80s the writers thought we would have full-body cybernetic augmentation by now but didn't even think of WiFi...

Gibson thought 2800 baud modems would still be cutting edge in his early works

And I'm sure if we look at some of the predictions from even 10 years ago, what we'd be using now, it would be laughable. I keep forgetting how magical the iPhone was when it first released, and how I never could have imagined it existing.

Yeah, Youtube is only ten years old, and has changed the way we use the internet in enormous ways - as has Wikipedia, but who could have imagined that 15 years ago?

Trachalio wrote:

Man, I love how anachronistic the art in the rulebook is. Get's me right in my late 80s feels:
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That one artist (Sam Liu) especially is kind of apt, as he's aping Nagel in a lot of ways (less so in this particular image than in others).

Trachalio wrote:

Man, I love how anachronistic the art in the rulebook is. Get's me right in my late 80s feels:

This will help me get into the game. Normally I'd be torn. On the one hand, I don't like the cynicism of Cyberpunk as a genre. On the other hand, if technology did what I think it will do, there wouldn't be much chance for action adventure. But since this is a retro take on the future (like Fallout) its easier for me to disconnect and enjoy.

I guess you could do extreme sports with transhumans, that might work. But for our normal combat focused play, you need to be someone who believes technology creates more problems than it solves and all big corporations are black pits of evil. I think CD Project Red will manage it. I didn't expect to like The Witcher series as much as I did, but there's a certain freedom in playing a game where pretty much everybody is an a--hole.

MethodOverload wrote:

This will help me get into the game. Normally I'd be torn. On the one hand, I don't like the cynicism of Cyberpunk as a genre.

I don't know, the cynicism feels pretty spot on. It's not quite as dark and dysfunctional and I don't have my cybernetic implants, but we did get the megacorporations that they all predicted.

Even Apple is an Evil Empire, just with better marketing.

Whaaaat? No way.

I'm happy if that's true, but based on CDPRs own announcements I doubt it.

That's crazy talk.

Trachalio wrote:

And I'm sure if we look at some of the predictions from even 10 years ago, what we'd be using now, it would be laughable. I keep forgetting how magical the iPhone was when it first released, and how I never could have imagined it existing. :)

It's why I don't take any predictions about what we will be doing in the future very seriously, because our track record with it is horrendous. I don't even believe in self-driving cars until it's actually fully implemented and accepted by the public.

When you think about it, only Star Trek got the future of computer interfacing right, with simple voice commands and/or touching icons on a screen. Practically every other sci-fi media either assumed we would be pressing buttons floating in the air (nope, people want something tactile), or thought a computer would be brilliant and complex but never imagined the idea of a GUI at all.

MrDeVil909 wrote:

Whaaaat? No way.

I'm happy if that's true, but based on CDPRs own announcements I doubt it.

Also, they already said it's going to be their largest, most ambitious RPG yet, so even if it comes out in 2016, I bet I would want to wait for the enhanced edition with all the patches and revisions at the end of 2017 anyways!

Still not much info on this, even a year after the last post in this thread...

Unless I've missed something?

We might get info around E3 time this year, but CD Projekt was pretty clear this one was gonna be in development a while. I think 2018 was their projected release?

The only news that was really not much at all is that they applied for grants from the government.

http://www.pcgamer.com/cyberpunk-207...

Would not surprise if we don't really hear anything until 2018 and get a 2019 release. CDProjekt can and will take their time.

Drama:

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Kind of apropos for a cyberpunk game, though, isn't it?

Genius marketing in disguise.

tboon wrote:

Kind of apropos for a cyberpunk game, though, isn't it?

More than apropos, it's genius.

Kind of wasted though, I mean it's not like there's any big industry events going on in the nex....oh. OH.

pyxistyx wrote:

Kind of wasted though, I mean it's not like there's any big industry events going on in the nex....oh. OH.

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Yeah I was seriously expecting something from them this E3.

Joke's on the hackers. Now I'm even MORE interested in Cyberpunk 2077!

/naive

They should have done this on April 1st.

So it looks like there was some sort of media event recently as a couple of sites I follow all pushed interviews with Mike Pondsmith out around the same time. I don't want to get people's hopes up but I wouldn't be surprised if this game resurfaces later this year at San Diego Comic-Con, Games Com, PAX Prime, or EGX.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/201...
https://www.pcgamesn.com/cyberpunk-2...

My money is on Gamescom.