Monster Hunter 3 (Wii) Catch-All

I'm super intrigued by this game, but even with the Amazon controller bundle I'd have to get Wii Speak as well- setting me back a minimum of $80, is that correct? I can't use a game cube controller or a standard PC headset can I? P.S. - I'm a filthy thread skimmer, humor me.

No GC controller support (missing two buttons, and this game uses 'em all), and no headset support that I know of.

If you have an old-model classic controller, those work. You'll probably be able to find one on the cheap after a week or so. I see used Wiispeaks on Amazon for 13+shipping, so you could probably snag one cheaper if you wanna try.

Also if you buy the game from Amazon you get a $10 game credit. Don't think they're letting people order the bundle anymore, though.

Blind_Evil wrote:

I see used Wiispeaks on Amazon for 13+shipping, so you could probably snag one cheaper if you wanna try.

I snagged mine at exactly $13. $13+ is the norm though.

Anyone know how exactly WiiSpeak works? Mine's still in its plastic wrap. Does it just capture all the audio in the room? Is there an easy way to mute it?

I finally got around to playing the demo for this last night. I took on the one-star challenge with the sword and shield. I sort of accidentally stumbled on the target and then chased it around the map, whacking it with my sword, for the full thirty minutes without actually killing it. This was a one-star hunt? Are the sword and shield really just that useless?

In any case, I can see why they're bundling this with the new classic controller. The controls with the Wiimote and nunchuck are cumbersome at best; I can't help but view the classic controller as a requirement instead of a nice addition.

When I first got the demo a month ago I felt the same way, and now I've beaten that quest in under 6 minutes with SnS (20 min limit btw, not 30. You get 50 usually). It took me about ten tries to beat it at all the first time, now it's easy as cake. It really isn't the kind of game you can expect great results from without a time investment. Sad as it is, I'm pretty sure I've put 10 or 12 hours into the demo.

I'm not sure how it works either Lobster, i've set it up but never used it. When you calibrate it a little song plays from your speakers which I assume it listens to, and figures if you're in an adequate audio environment.

Blind_Evil wrote:

When I first got the demo a month ago I felt the same way, and now I've beaten that quest in under 6 minutes with SnS (20 min limit btw, not 30. You get 50 usually). It took me about ten tries to beat it at all the first time, now it's easy as cake.

How? Obviously, running up to the monster and hitting it with my sword doesn't do the trick.

Which monster is the one star again? I'll give you some specific advice but I'm blanking on its name. :/

What I can say is that fights are supposed to take a while and the sword/shield trades raw power for mobility and defense. Killing a monster is not exactly as simple as whacking it till it falls over. If your blade is bouncing off, you're doing more damage to the edge than the monster (use your whetstones to keep your sword sharp).

The one star monster is the one that looks like a velociraptor.

Any word on whether or not the full game has a tutorial of some kind? Or a good manual?

ClockworkHouse wrote:
Blind_Evil wrote:

When I first got the demo a month ago I felt the same way, and now I've beaten that quest in under 6 minutes with SnS (20 min limit btw, not 30. You get 50 usually). It took me about ten tries to beat it at all the first time, now it's easy as cake.

How? Obviously, running up to the monster and hitting it with my sword doesn't do the trick.

With SnS against Great Jaggi, you start with a paralysis trap, paralysis knives, two small and two large barrel bombs. Drop the trap and bait him into it via your positioning, meanwhile getting the large bombs set. When he gets trapped, drop the small bomb next to the others and you'll drop a sizeable chunk of his life. And like Lobster said, make sure you're whetting your blade whenever the sharpness falls below green.

Larger weapons don't require as much item use. I can drop him in 4 with the switch axe.

Reviews haven't been super specific, but they all mention that the game is easier on new players due to better-designed tutorials.

The PSP games had a good tutorial that covered the less obvious stuff and had pretty good writing.

Here's some info on the Great Jaggi.

And here's some info on the best places to hit. It looks like you want to aim for the head when possible. In previous games hit locations were more precise than this (and you could even break off armor to create a weak spot). I'd try aiming for the underbelly too.

You should also learn to recognize its body language. Monsters are much faster and more dangerous when enraged. Limping means it's badly injured and might try to get away from you so it can rest and recover. A monster usually has one or two favorite spots on the map where it'll go to recuperate. You can chase after the Jaggi since it's a runner but for flying monsters it's best to try to get to their nest before them.

This looks pretty sweet, I've never played a Monster Hunter game before but what I've read about them sounds really cool.

Unfortunately I have already gone through my game budget this month, maybe next month I can join up.

I think I've pretty much come to terms with the fact that I'm gonna pick this game up tomorrow.

I'm also going to pick up a classic controller as well if they don't have the bundle with the new controller.

I do have one question though. Is it worth it to get component cables for my Wii? I didn't even know they sold them until a few days ago. I guess that's why a lot of my Wii games looked like ass on my HD tv.

The step up from interlaced to progressive is probably worth the ten bucks or so. I'd order some cheap ones from your cheap online retailer of choice. The official ones are kinda pricey.

Blind_Evil wrote:

The step up from interlaced to progressive is probably worth the ten bucks or so. I'd order some cheap ones from your cheap online retailer of choice. The official ones are kinda pricey.

Yeah I noticed the official ones were a bit pricey. I'll have to get some of those as well.

It may be a little while before I get a Wii Speak though, so if I do end up playing online I'll just have to be the strong, silent type.

All of the "official" stuff is insanely pricey for no good reason. I got an unofficial wired ethernet adapter for $5 and some component cables for $5. Both work totally fine.

JayBent wrote:
Blind_Evil wrote:

The step up from interlaced to progressive is probably worth the ten bucks or so. I'd order some cheap ones from your cheap online retailer of choice. The official ones are kinda pricey.

Yeah I noticed the official ones were a bit pricey. I'll have to get some of those as well.

It may be a little while before I get a Wii Speak though, so if I do end up playing online I'll just have to be the strong, silent type.

USB keyboard support! Nothin' wrong with that.

Yeah I picked up a Logitech Wireless Wii keyboard on sale a while back. Works great from the couch. Has zoom buttons for the web browser even, although I don't use that much. It's just kinda neat that it does. Mostly used the keyboard for Animal Crossing so far, but typing chat could be good.

Didn't pre-order so I guess I'm not getting it today. I had a lot on my plate so far so I'll probably be waiting for the earliest sale on this. Hope the rest of you have a lot of fun today.

I won't be getting mine until later this week or early next. Thankfully I've got the end of Dead Space and DoW2 to fill that void. Looking forward to impressions and experiences from the ones with the goods.

JayBent wrote:
Blind_Evil wrote:

The step up from interlaced to progressive is probably worth the ten bucks or so. I'd order some cheap ones from your cheap online retailer of choice. The official ones are kinda pricey.

Yeah I noticed the official ones were a bit pricey. I'll have to get some of those as well.

It may be a little while before I get a Wii Speak though, so if I do end up playing online I'll just have to be the strong, silent type.

I'm strongly considering just running my headphones to my PC and using Ventrillo. Trying to talk myself into the price-tag here...

I've got a Wii speak that came bundled with Endless Ocean 2, but I'm unconvinced that it's going to be awesome. I suspect I'll wind up getting into an XBL party chat with the friends I'm playing with and leave Wii speak for when/if I'm playing with randoms.

And the Fedex guy literally just dropped off my copy from Amazon. This is so much easier than going through Gamestop.

Dax wrote:

I'm strongly considering just running my headphones to my PC and using Ventrillo. Trying to talk myself into the price-tag here...

I'm kinda in the opposite boat. I have a wii speak but no pc headset or mic, and no use for one to justify a purchase. I also don't like the idea of running my xbox while I play, for reasons of heat and noise in my smallish room.

I'm not 100% sold on the Wii Speak myself. Seems like it's always on and is intended to sit near the TV. It has a power switch, which is great if you don't mind getting up to mute and unmute it. I might dig around for a USB extension cord and see if I can't keep it in reach. Otherwise, Ventrilo isn't a terrible idea, or a keyboard. I only have one USB slot available so it's either keyboard or Wii Speak.

I just watched the video review on gametrailers, and this sounds a lot like Demon's Souls, which means I am now very, very interested. So my question to all the Monster Hunter and Demon's Souls veterans out there is - If I *loved* Demon's Souls, will I enjoy this game?

Also, is there a set time everyone is going to be playing? If I do wind up buying/renting this, it's much easier for me to play in a group if there is a day and time chosen. I also won't be opting for WiiSpeak, so it's Ventrilo or XBL Parties for me.

I just picked up the game today, pretty sweet so far. I haven't figured out how to add friends yet but when I do I'll post whatever code on here. I also don't have the wii speak yet so I'll be using the keyboard for now. I'm also game for using vent.

Been playing for about six hours straight. I'll have some things to say in the morning when looking at screens doesn't make my eyes hate me.

Blind_Evil wrote:

Been playing for about six hours straight. I'll have some things to say in the morning when looking at screens doesn't make my eyes hate me.

I feel your pain. I'm loving this game.

Although, I can't wait until my component cables come so this game doesn't look so muddy.

Now we need a channel in Vent. I don't know if I should or shouldn't hope for lag between Wii Speak and Vent.

Can't blame you guys for sticking to your new, shiny, addictive game. I'd I'll do the same thing.

Six hour impressions, go!

I'm at the beginning of the three-star quests. I played MH1 for about 20 hours in preparation for this game over the last month, and if that game taught me anything, it was to horde money and farm at every possible opportunity. After about three hours of plodding along in that manner, I realized Tri, at least early, does not require it. You could most likely get to where I am with mostly starter gear. Also, instead of getting 300z for a quest like in the first game, I get upward of 2000. That's real nice. I suppose that's what they mean by the game being easier to start. Another convenience is not needing to bring my materials to the crafter: they're taken from my storage box automatically. I seem to run out of room constantly on quests, though.

I've been using the hammer primarily, Ludroth Bone Hammer or some such specifically, and it does very well on larger monsters. Jaggi are annoying, as they move faster than my swings, but alas. I'm trying to blaze through to the point where I can get a switch-axe.

The writing in this game is very well done, which surprised me a bit. It's the sort of witty translation you expect from old Working Designs games.

Random note: I don't notice much the CC Pro has over the old model. Some people didn't like the way the original felt, but I did, so I guess I wasted ten bucks or so here. Oh well, can't have enough Wii add ons, eh?

Finally, I'd though I was pretty good at the game, but Barroth wiped the area floor with me.