Diablo III Spoiler Thread

See, when ever he/she it said "prime evil" All I could hear was this:

edit: Why isn't there more metal in Diablo?

Also, it seems like someone at blizzard has a complex about corrupting strong women.

Atomicvideohead wrote:

See, when ever he/she it said "prime evil" All I could hear was this: *video*

Ha! I feel like I should watch the credits while listening to that.

Elysium wrote:
Certis wrote:

It's the elephant in the room so I'm just going to say it. Diablo was kinda sexy, right?

I told you while we were fighting him and I'll tell you again. No!

I'd date diablo. Can't be much different from when I dated a 6'11" roller-derby girl named Zelda.

Not that that ended well. But I'm sure they'd both be just as fun out on the town.

I just beat the game on normal. I'm going to start doing coop for the nightmare and hell modes. Now for some phat loots!

I just had to jump in here and say I just found the neatest random spawned level. In Act I on Nightmare, one of the crypts spawned as "Development Hell" and it was filled with zombies that were all named and titled as people that developed the game. The Elite was Jay Wilson (Lead Designer, I think) and killing him gave an achievement "Smash! Jay, Smash!"

I just thought it was a really cool way to do a sort of credit roll.

So if I farm up the items for the secret level thing on normal, does that mean if I want to open a portal in Hell that I have to farm the items all over again? if so I feel I'm better off waiting until the more difficult levels.

DeThroned wrote:

So if I farm up the items for the secret level thing on normal, does that mean if I want to open a portal in Hell that I have to farm the items all over again? if so I feel I'm better off waiting until the more difficult levels.

You only need to farm the items once. The items get you the first staff with only opens the level on normal. For each higher difficulty, you need to get upgrade plans from a vendor. They get more expensive the higher you go. It's 50k to make the staff (150k if you include the price of the bell), 200k to upgrade to nightmare, 500k for hell and 1m for inferno.

Which vendor sells the plans?

DeThroned wrote:

So if I farm up the items for the secret level thing on normal, does that mean if I want to open a portal in Hell that I have to farm the items all over again? if so I feel I'm better off waiting until the more difficult levels.

This works just like the items in D2 worked. You can only use them for the levels you have completed. So ya the big payout is at the very end.

The difference now is that you have to start with the lowest level and use that to craft the one for the next tier.

To craft the nightmare one i have to have the staff already made for normal AND 200k gold. I'm guessing the same would apply for the hell staff and beyond.

No clue yet if you can go back to the lower level dungeon once you have the high level staff.

Grenn wrote:

Which vendor sells the plans?

The medic, one that sells potions. I saw him in Act 3, not sure if he has it earlier.

Grenn wrote:

Which vendor sells the plans?

For nightmare, at least, it's Gorell the Quartermaster in Bastion's Keep Stronghold. It has to be act IV.

Man, I was hoping the pony level would have better loot. I went back to the oasis playing with a group on my second character and sure enough the first time we went there the mysterious cave spawned. It took me well over a dozen tries when I was farming it and it just randomly pops up again. Boo. And now I have a second liquid rainbow. What the hell am I supposed to do with that?

"The king of Westmarch refuses to send help against these imaginary demons of yours."
...
Would you kindly step this way to the battlements, please?

I put together my staff this evening. I'm with Pants on my disappointment in the loot table for Whimsyshire. Maybe it ramps up later difficulties.

Kraint wrote:

I put together my staff this evening. I'm with Pants on my disappointment in the loot table for Whimsyshire. Maybe it ramps up later difficulties.

It does. It's one of few ways to bridge the masssive gear-gap between Hell and Inferno.

It's a pretty steady progression of gearing up, stats/hp scaling, and you just learning to be a better player til the end of Hell.

When you boot up Inferno, that's when the game really slaps both your cheeks and tells you to go work on your gear. ;p

(slayed Diablo on Hell difficulty? pffft intro mobs from Act 1 in Inferno will CRUSH you).

Certis wrote:

It's the elephant in the room so I'm just going to say it. Diablo was kinda sexy, right?

It's probably just because it's all Jennifer Hale under that hide (pretty certain she voiced the big bad him/herself too).

Kraint wrote:

I put together my staff this evening. I'm with Pants on my disappointment in the loot table for Whimsyshire. Maybe it ramps up later difficulties.

The loot is high end loot for Normal. It's good loot for your alts.

Running around Whimsyshire, I couldn't help but laugh at it all. I felt like we were the demons rampaging around killing all the happy/cuddly people.

plavonica wrote:

Running around Whimsyshire, I couldn't help but laugh at it all. I felt like we were the demons rampaging around killing all the happy/cuddly people.

Has anyone done a game like that with a straight face (i.e. not like Dungeon Keeper or Evil Genius), where you're the bad guys and you're fighting the forces of good? An Inverse Diablo.

Scratched wrote:
plavonica wrote:

Running around Whimsyshire, I couldn't help but laugh at it all. I felt like we were the demons rampaging around killing all the happy/cuddly people.

Has anyone done a game like that with a straight face (i.e. not like Dungeon Keeper or Evil Genius), where you're the bad guys and you're fighting the forces of good? An Inverse Diablo.

Overlord.

The Whimsyshire is between Acts. I'd completed Normal on my own when I put mine together. In there was the first time I saw pages of jewelcrafting and blacksmithing. So it stands to reason that the stuff you get in nightmare will help you gear up for hell.

Overlord is the other big 'badguy' game. It's pretty whimsical too.

Random thoughts about the ending:

I thought the reason that the soul gems were created is because otherwise the Prime Evils would just keep coming back. The only way to kill one permanently is to trap them in a gem and then destroy it. In that animated short Diablo intentionally let the angels kill him so he's obviously not too worried about dying. Why, then, is evil supposedly gone forever after the nephalem kills the Prime Evil? The lore seems to indicate that the Evils will either respawn back in the Burning Hells or get sucked back into the black soul gem. Unless the rules are different in the High Heavens for some reason, but that would be dumb.

When the Prime Evil's corpse falls from heaven, it looked like all of it burned up except for a small lump from the chest region that continued falling. His/her/their heart, maybe? Possible setup for an expansion or sequel? Or am I just seeing things?

Also, I thought it was funny that my Barbarian is supposedly full of magic nephalem powers and the only one capable of killing the Prime Evil, the most powerful and evil being in history, and yet all he did was repeatedly hit it in the face with an axe. Sure he's pretty good at hitting things with an axe, and it's a very nice axe, but it's still funny to watch. I was also amused by the fact that after Diablo died his corpse was still targetable so I just held down the mouse button and kept hacking away at it until the cutscene rolled. You know, just to be sure he was really dead.

muttonchop wrote:

When the Prime Evil's corpse falls from heaven, it looked like all of it burned up except for a small lump from the chest region that continued falling. His/her/their heart, maybe? Possible setup for an expansion or sequel? Or am I just seeing things?

My guess is that was the black soulstone and yeah, probably a sequel hook since I presume they will deal with Adria and Imperius in expansion.

Yeah, I'm definitely wondering if Imperius is going to come back. Death doesn't seem to matter much to demons so I don't see why it would be permanent for the #1 angel either. Maybe now that hell has no ruler he'll fall and become a new Evil or something, he already seemed pretty close to that anyway. I'm pretty sure the Aspect of Valor shouldn't normally be threatening to kill people who are trying to help save his realm from destruction.

muttonchop wrote:

When the Prime Evil's corpse falls from heaven, it looked like all of it burned up except for a small lump from the chest region that continued falling. His/her/their heart, maybe? Possible setup for an expansion or sequel? Or am I just seeing things?

I noticed the same thing. I figured that, at the very least, that one little chunk would lead to rampant speculation.

muttonchop wrote:

I was also amused by the fact that after Diablo died his corpse was still targetable so I just held down the mouse button and kept hacking away at it until the cutscene rolled. You know, just to be sure he was really dead.

Did the same exact thing. If I keep hitting it more loot will pop out, right?

Truly the demon of Greed is our greatest weakness.

Actually I'd like to see a boss fight built around exploiting our desire for loot.

Everyone keeps calling you nephalem.
How come everyone knows that you are one but you never find out explicitly?

Atomicvideohead wrote:

Truly the demon of Greed is our greatest weakness.

Actually I'd like to see a boss fight built around exploiting our desire for loot.

I'm hoping we'll eventually get to travel through one of those treasure goblin portals, there must be tons of loot in there.

Atomicvideohead wrote:

Truly the demon of Greed is our greatest weakness.

Actually I'd like to see a boss fight built around exploiting our desire for loot.

That boss is called "House" and it's in the level "Skyrim".

muttonchop wrote:

I was also amused by the fact that after Diablo died his corpse was still targetable so I just held down the mouse button and kept hacking away at it until the cutscene rolled. You know, just to be sure he was really dead.

I did the exact same thing. First I thought maybe it was another transition phase, but then I just wanted to get out some of my aggression on wasting all of my Super Health Potions!