Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 - Catch All (Oliver North Approved)

Oh snap!

Blind_Evil wrote:

Previews say the jet sequences aren't on rails, and they're introducing branching paths through missions.

That's cool, I guess. Mostly, I think this trailer just reminds me that this game isn't for me. Call of Duty multiplayer is great, but I don't have the time to invest in order to become competitive at it, and I have no interest in paying $60 for a 5-6 hour single player campaign that essentially looks like Modern Warfare in Frontlines clothing. I'm glad you guys like the look of it, and I don't want to rain on anybody's parade.

CptGlanton wrote:
Speedhuntr wrote:

Oh..huh. Now that I've read up on this Oliver North individual (before my time, don't remember hearing about it in school ever), I'm...pass.

So, I've now learned that one can be an adult with a job and still think of Iran-Contra as "before my time."

...

I was one!

I majored in political science so I know a fair amount about it but most of my peers have no idea who Ollie North is.

So Oliver North isn't Nolan North's older brother?

Nope. Also, Kotaku or whatever this is a must-read: http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/05/the...

Pretendbeard wrote:

Nope. Also, Kotaku or whatever this is a must-read: http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/05/the...

It is quite a good column. And in addition to not being cool with Oliver North as an ad man, I don't think I can shake the sense that the new setting has CoD pushing past that low-level Oo-rah conservatism I can shrug off, and into being a full bore Neo-Con alarmist mouthpiece. It's certainly what it sounds like, and knowing CoD isn't popular for subtlety, grace, or depth of thought, I think I'm safe going with first impressions.

SpacePPoliceman wrote:
Pretendbeard wrote:

Nope. Also, Kotaku or whatever this is a must-read: http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/05/the...

It is quite a good column. And in addition to not being cool with Oliver North as an ad man, I don't think I can shake the sense that the new setting has CoD pushing past that low-level Oo-rah conservatism I can shrug off, and into being a full bore Neo-Con alarmist mouthpiece. It's certainly what it sounds like, and knowing CoD isn't popular for subtlety, grace, or depth of thought, I think I'm safe going with first impressions.

My biggest problem with this direction is that they seem to somehow be making it partisan. In the Giant Bomb podcast on BLOPS 2 they talk about how China and America are locked in a cold war. I would have been okay with a scenario where the real enemy is countries even having this tech. They could have made a timely, interesting and serious story out of fighting against the possibility of ALL countries having this technology and misusing it. Instead it appears that somehow America will be the good guys again even though the US is arguably leading the world in the use of unmanned drones.

DSGamer wrote:

Instead it appears that somehow America will be the good guys again even though the US is arguably leading the world in the use of unmanned drones.

But someone stole the keys maaaaaan.

Did anyone listen to Weekend Confirmed this week?

Garnett saw BO2 and said there's a new mode in the campaign that plays like Ghost Recon. I guess there's these optional alternate missions available at your home base and your success rate after taking them on changes conditions in the main story.

These missions drop you into a large sandbox map where you can make choices on how to check off objectives any way you want (he kept referencing the Battlefield franchise). You can play as any single soldier and complete objectives, bounce from one soldier to another, or even pull out to a map mode and direct your allies like a RTS or something (I think you can direct soldiers from the ground too).

Sounds ambitious enough to have caught my attention. The last CoD game I played was CoD4, but they sure seem to be mixing things up enough with BO2 to at least put the game on my radar.

multiplayer gameplay

killstreak

zombie gameplay (4v4)

Multiplayer trailer in 60 fps

http://www.vg247.com/2012/09/03/call...

BO2 is on DX11, which rules out winxp.

System requirements wrote:

OS: Windows Vista SP2 or Windows 7
CPU: Intel Core2 Duo E8200 2.66 GHz or AMD Phenom X3 8750 2.4 GHz
Memory: 2GB for 32-bit OS or 4GB for 64-bit OS
Video Card: Nvidia GeForce 8800GT 512 MB or ATI Radeon HD 3870 512 MB

New create a class system

We created a “pick-10” point system where everything was worth one point – which is a wholly different approach than the previous slot-driven system where you had to pick content. Now, you can pick a primary weapon, or not – save that point and use it for something else. The net result for players is the ability to configure about a-half-million different load outs, many of which you’ve never been able to create in a Call of Duty game before – the options are amazing.

Where things get really interesting are the “Wild Cards” – these are the “rule breakers” in Create-A-Class, costing one point each and allowing players additional slots for things like second perks, additional lethals, tacticals and/or attachments. Want two perks from the first tier? Select Perk 1 Greed to double-up on abilities. Want three attachments on your primary weapon? Equip Primary Gunfighter to fully accessorize your go-to gun. If a player is willing to sacrifice points in certain areas, Wildcards can bring about a new level of freedom in Create-a-Class.

Perks themselves have been refined, becoming the simple enhancements that they were originally intended to be. Gone are Pro Perks. All Perks now feature tunables that can be strengthened or weakened, which allows us to ensure that not one Perk overly dominates it tier and that a healthy diversity of Perks can be found on the playing field.

All across the board, Create-a-Class has been rebuilt into a more personalized experience. Players now have an unprecedented level of control in how they want to play the game. But with this newfound freedom comes sacrifice, as players will have to assess what they value most in multiplayer like never before. And what was already a fundamental question becomes even more important, as millions around the world will have to answer on November 13th: How will I customize my setup?

...Probably going to buy this sooner rather than later now. I wonder if the Wii U version'll have feature parity, and come in a timely fashion. That'd be rad.

What anti-cheat will be used?

Anti-cheat is a top priority for Call of Duty®: Black Ops II. We have developed our own proprietary server-side anti-cheat technology which will work alongside VAC to deliver the most advanced detection and banning capabilities of any Call of Duty game to date. We have also improved our player reporting system to make it the most effective way that you can help us catch cheaters. And starting on launch day we will have a full-time dedicated pc anti-cheat team focused solely on detecting and banning cheaters. We have a zero tolerance policy on cheating. Cheaters bans are permanent.

Will Black Ops have Matchmaking or Dedicated Servers?

Both! Call of Duty®: Black Ops II PC combines matchmaking with secure ranked dedicated servers. This means that you get into Public Matches or League Play via matchmaking lobbies. It is easy to party up and play with your friends. You can adjust your classes or scorestreaks between matches. It also means that every Public or League match is hosted on a dedicated server running in one of our high bandwidth datacenters around the globe.


Will you release the server files?

No. We are keeping the server files secure to protect the game from hacking and cheating and ensure the ranking and progression system integrity.

Can I rent a server?

No. We are providing a huge number of servers around the world at no extra charge – plenty for everyone to enjoy. And we will administer the servers.

Will there be mod tools?

No. As we continually improve and advance our in-house tools for our own content teams we are unable to provide consumer tools due to increased technical requirements, licensing restrictions, and technology dependencies.

Will you release the server files?

No. We are keeping the server files secure to protect the game from hacking and cheating and ensure the ranking and progression system integrity.

Because that always works soooo well.

I'm skipping the console version and picking up the PC version this time. I barely played MW3's multiplayer - I'm not sure if it was due to burn out from playing a lot of Black Ops (which I really enjoyed!) or because of the cheap respawns and overall dislike for most of the maps. I really hope being back with Treyarch again will get me as excited to play as the first BO. We'll see.

Swat wrote:

I'm skipping the console version and picking up the PC version this time. I barely played MW3's multiplayer - I'm not sure if it was due to burn out from playing a lot of Black Ops (which I really enjoyed!) or because of the cheap respawns and overall dislike for most of the maps. I really hope being back with Treyarch again will get me as excited to play as the first BO. We'll see.

I like the changes they are making in this one. I'll be picking it up on 360 and playing with my local friends.

Gumbie wrote:
Swat wrote:

I'm skipping the console version and picking up the PC version this time. I barely played MW3's multiplayer - I'm not sure if it was due to burn out from playing a lot of Black Ops (which I really enjoyed!) or because of the cheap respawns and overall dislike for most of the maps. I really hope being back with Treyarch again will get me as excited to play as the first BO. We'll see.

I like the changes they are making in this one. I'll be picking it up on 360 and playing with my local friends.

same... too many people i know are playing on the 360, but i'm also double dipping again. I've gone this long... no point in stopping now.

Not sure about the story, but the MP and Zombies have me tempted. The only thing to get me to buy day one is a considerable discount from GMG. Blops had some terrible technical problems for me on PC, and was one of my regretful purchases the year it came out.

ELITE is going to be free for BO2

Surely not the map packs? That was pretty much the only difference between Elite and the paid version last year, I thought.

Blind_Evil wrote:

Surely not the map packs? That was pretty much the only difference between Elite and the paid version last year, I thought.

I dont think you got elite services (clan, stats, xp bonuses) unless you paid for it. You also happen to get the map packs as part of the service.

BO2 is going to the BF3 route of map packs. single prices for each map pack or you can pay an up front reduced cost for all map packs.

I wasnt expecting this:

They seem to have built in tools for Esports viewing

ranalin wrote:
Blind_Evil wrote:

Surely not the map packs? That was pretty much the only difference between Elite and the paid version last year, I thought.

I dont think you got elite services (clan, stats, xp bonuses) unless you paid for it. You also happen to get the map packs as part of the service.

BO2 is going to the BF3 route of map packs. single prices for each map pack or you can pay an up front reduced cost for all map packs.

I loaded up Elite the other day to check my old roommate's stats, and I never signed up. I don't even have MW3 anymore. So maybe you get more stats for having payed, but I could watch some of the tip videos and check stats like win:loss, K:D, accuracy and the like. I want to say the clan menu was available too, but I'll check next time I turn on the Xbox. The only thing you mentioned that I didn't see were XP bonuses, outside of the normal double-weekends.

Blind_Evil wrote:
ranalin wrote:
Blind_Evil wrote:

Surely not the map packs? That was pretty much the only difference between Elite and the paid version last year, I thought.

I dont think you got elite services (clan, stats, xp bonuses) unless you paid for it. You also happen to get the map packs as part of the service.

BO2 is going to the BF3 route of map packs. single prices for each map pack or you can pay an up front reduced cost for all map packs.

I loaded up Elite the other day to check my old roommate's stats, and I never signed up. I don't even have MW3 anymore. So maybe you get more stats for having payed, but I could watch some of the tip videos and check stats like win:loss, K:D, accuracy and the like. I want to say the clan menu was available too, but I'll check next time I turn on the Xbox. The only thing you mentioned that I didn't see were XP bonuses, outside of the normal double-weekends.

lol i literally just got done playing mw3 on the 360 for the first time in ages. I had like 8-10 maps to download and they were marked as elite - xxxxmapnamexxx. They had 0 cost associated with them. I also had an indicator that i was getting extra xp. So maybe it was just the maps and extra xp bonuses.

Elite is free for everyone, regardless of platform. This was true when MW3 came out also. You only pay for the additional content and some emblems etc.

Dakuna wrote:

Elite is free for everyone, regardless of platform. This was true when MW3 came out also. You only pay for the additional content and some emblems etc.

Well day one it wasnt because i had to pay for it. It was still cheaper than having to pay for the map packs individually. The major c*ck up was them changing their mind at the last moment and pull it for the PC.

Guy Ritchie directed video with RDJ

ranalin wrote:

Guy Ritchie directed video with RDJ

STUFF. I do enjoy those.

As long as the SP isn't a B movie mess, and runs well on my PC, I'll be satisfied.

cyrax wrote:
ranalin wrote:

Guy Ritchie directed video with RDJ

STUFF. I do enjoy those.

As long as the SP isn't a B movie mess, and runs well on my PC, I'll be satisfied.

lol dude the premise is a B movie mess