Let's talk manga! ^_^

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There was some interest in the anime thread in making a manga thread, so here it is!

There was another thread like this, but its so old and been so long that I don't care to cough you. I like One Piece. It's fun.

I loved Uzumaki back in the day.

The only manga I ever got into was Death Note. Other than that I've always played catchup with manga series.

My buddy is a HUGE JoJo fan. Outside of some of the wackiness I don't get his love for JoJo at all.

Berserk manga is cool, though I don't think I've read a chapter in at least a year. That manga goes on hiatus more than hunter x hunter. The anime in Berserk stopped abruptly and changed some towards the end. Naruto manga is infinitely better than the anime since it doesn't have years worth of filler garbage. Inuyasha and Full Metal Alchemist mangas were also better than the animes.

One I recently read is the first Manhwa I've ever read, called Ping. It was pretty good other than the long Korean names that I kept mixing up. It's basically a tenjo tenge type story but more serious and less ecchi.

And of course One Piece is just as great in manga as it is in anime

Are there any good iOS apps for manga? I was looking at the Comics app by Comixology for the first time last night and I was really impressed with it. However, I couldn't find any real equivalent for manga based on poking around the app store for a few minutes...

I loved Ken Akamatsu's stuff when I was at a point in my life that required me to kill several hours a week in a bookstore

I'm not sure you want to get me started here. I have way too much of this cluttering my house and my hard drive.

Couple quick overall etiquette questions for the thread:
-- What is people's tolerance for online reading? I do read the unlicensed stuff online, but if that skeezes people I'll just not talk about those series.
-- I'm assuming we're going to keep it T or violent M rated, but there are some interesting series with yaoi/yuri side-components. What are your thoughts about talking about them?

On to the reading:

I've been reading something called Akumetsu and I'm not sure how to even talk about it. The premise is an "ordinary" high school kid decides to fix the Japanese economy and government by executing those he considers to be evil and educating the populace as to why. Contrasting the situation with our current government woes is an interesting exercise. It's completed.

I love manhwa. For some good old fashioned butt-kicking, you might want to try Veritas (if really egregious panty shots don't bother you). The combat scenes can get pretty echhi. Like as bad as High School of the Dead. Pretty old-school premise but with some unique twists to it. It's completed.

shoptroll wrote:

Are there any good iOS apps for manga? I was looking at the Comics app by Comixology for the first time last night and I was really impressed with it. However, I couldn't find any real equivalent for manga based on poking around the app store for a few minutes...

Not manga, per se. Dark Horse has some good properties, and their app is pretty good. I read Usagi Yojimbo in there.

momgamer wrote:

Not manga, per se. Dark Horse has some good properties, and their app is pretty good. I read Usagi Yojimbo in there.

I swear I did a search for Dark Horse last night and it didn't find anything, which I thought was incredibly weird. Just did a search in iTunes and there's definitely an app. Will have to grab that when I get home.

More to the topic at hand, I'm currently reading Ghost in the Shell for the first time and enjoying it so far. About 60 pages in and it's interesting how it's similar to the movies and tv series but different in terms of tone (more slapstick) and other aspects. I also don't know if something got lost in translation but it reads a bit disjointed, hard to explain really.

No, that's Shirow Masamune for you. Appleseed is the same way.

Only manga i ever read was 3x3 eyes (first couple of volumes - the rest weren't available in the UK at the time) but I really liked the pulpy nature of it (and the OVAs).

ukickmydog wrote:

Berserk manga is cool, though I don't think I've read a chapter in at least a year.

Oh, man, you're like three whole chapters behind then! (Barely even exaggerating.)

I had to quit following Berserk on a chapter-by-chapter basis. The current arc just plain isn't interesting enough to maintain my interest that way. Is Guts still fighting a sea monster? Great. Whatever. Wake me up when stuff starts happening again.

I'm sure that once this bit is collected in a volume it will hardly even seem like a thing, I'll skim right past it and then it'll be back to the plot, but I'm willing to wait on the Dark Horse version for that, considering that they're pretty much caught up to Japan anyway.

What else...

The library I work at is pretty good about keeping current with the ongoing shonen stuff, so I keep following Naruto 'cause hey, why not, it's free. And you know what, as of Volume 54 which was the last one I read, it's gotten pretty good again. Sort of really kind of hope it's gearing up toward the end, though.

One Piece is still amazing. Never did get into the show that much-- getting too old for the glacial pacing of weekly televised shonen-- but the manga is awesome.

Gantz is another one I used to follow faithfully and then kind of fell out of. That's another one where I'm sort of waiting for it to finish so that I can just buy up the last volumes and marathon it to the end.

Genshiken is amazing, but it's one of the few cases where I can unequivocally say that I liked the anime better.

Hellsing is awesome.

Dragon Ball is awesome. Been getting the Viz Bigs on the cheap and it makes for a great light read.

I'll jump on the "Faster Berserk! Kill! Kill!" bandwagon.

As far as manhwa, I'll say that I really enjoyed Veritas. Until the end. Which sucked so much. I hear that there was supposed to be a sequel or second season but none has been forthcoming. In a similar vein, a really good martial arts one is The Breaker. It has about 80 or 90 chapters and the sequel The Breaker: New Waves is running strong at about 60 or so. Really good action and story.

Another is Sun-ken Rock. Its much more mature in terms of content and much more immature in terms of jokes and running gags. A japanese kid is put in charge of a Korean gang and takes it to new heights while lying to the Korean police officer lady he fell in love with back in high school about what he does for a living since moving there.

momgamer wrote:

No, that's Shirow Masamune for you. Appleseed is the same way.

Good to know. The Appleseed stuff has been on the "to watch/read" list for a while. Probably after I get around to Cowboy Bebop.

I just did a quick count, and I'm running at least a hundred titles here either online or on paper. I don't want to just post a list. What are you guys interested in hearing about?

shoptroll wrote:
momgamer wrote:

No, that's Shirow Masamune for you. Appleseed is the same way.

Good to know. The Appleseed stuff has been on the "to watch/read" list for a while. Probably after I get around to Cowboy Bebop.

Don't get me wrong, I love his stuff. Appleseed is one of my favorites. Briareos kicks butt! But Masamune is an artist rather than a writer and that can show through in his work. That and he does a lot of erotic art, so some of the characters can be really strangely sexualized. In many ways the films add more gravitas than is in the original materials instead of the other way around (which I find to be more usually the case).

And there is no "getting around" to Cowboy Bebop. Get thee to a bookstore! Though that is an interesting thing, too, now that I think about it. One of the most intriguing things about the anime series was the music, and that aspect of it is not there. Please let me know what you think of the story without it.

momgamer wrote:

Couple quick overall etiquette questions for the thread:
-- What is people's tolerance for online reading? I do read the unlicensed stuff online, but if that skeezes people I'll just not talk about those series.

Not sure if we have a hard-and-fast "etiquette" rule for discussing these things, but from a purely practical standpoint, I've gotten to the point personally where I'll barely ever read scanlations any more. Ethical questions aside, finding some skeezy web site, downloading torrents, putting up with scans of variable quality and translations full of grammar weirdness, and reading on my computer screen is all just too much trouble for me this late in the day when I can just wait until it's out in the U.S. and Amazon will deliver it right to my door.

But then, I've kind of fallen out of the fandom, so is there all that much great stuff being released these days that doesn't wind up making it (officially) to North American shores?

There's a heck of a lot of good stuff that never gets here, particularly from the Chinese/Korean markets.

Case in point, in my first post Akumetsu has never been licensed I'm aware of (I got it imported and it's been helping me learn to read Japanese better). I thought Veritas had been licensed but it turns out it hasn't so I will use it as a good example for Korea. Shibatora (the manga, not the TV series), Piano No Mori, Over Drive, Team Medical Dragon, and Kamen Teacher, for some of my favorite examples from Japan. The One and 1/2 Prince from China.

And there are a several good places nowadays that have QC, and aren't nearly so skeezy as before.

I like the ones with tentacles.

I loved both Hikaru no Go and Genshiken. I think that in my experience, they are the best examples of cinematic effect that can be achieved by good frame syntax. At some point while reading Genshiken, it just felt like I was watching a film instead of reading a bunch of unrelated frames.

Woot. I already love this thread, if only because I love manga and anime.

I'm in the same vein as momgamer. I've read a lot and have a lot. I have a list somewhere, but I could definitely recommend titles when the need calls.

Speaking of Manhwa i freaking love Nobelese

It's a variation on a vampire story but the thought process behind it is way different (i'm guessing it's a Korean logic) but the dry humor and even not so dry is just awesome when it gets interjected into serious moments.

Frankenstein: *Throws energy lances at bad guy* *Bad guy dodges they impale other previously defeated bad guy* "Oops sorry!"

minion 1: "was that really unintentional"
minion 2: "I-I don't know"
Frankenstein: *evil grin* This is awkward now i look like the bad guy" *Summons Dark Spear of pure black/purple energy*

Secret Agent: "Wait, could he be... the devil?"
Secret Agent2: "N-No Way..."

Aside from Veritas, I've been following the manhwa Freezing. It's typical shonen stuff, but I found the art well done and the story arcs reasonably entertaining.

I switched to the Naruto manga when the show started doing filler episodes, and it is fantastic. I also really like Gunsmith Cats, as well as the Rurouni Kenshin manga.

The only one I've read through to completion though is Kareshi Kanojo no Jijou. I bought the first 5 volumes, tore through them in a night, and went back to the book store the next day to buy the rest of the series. My wife and I read the whole thing together in a weekend. Fantastic stuff, the way that Masami Tsuda integrates the protagonists thoughts/imagination into the scene is something I haven't seen much elsewhere and makes for a fun read.

I really want to read Ghost in the Shell, I should look into that.

LarryC wrote:

Aside from Veritas, I've been following the manhwa Freezing. It's typical shonen stuff, but I found the art well done and the story arcs reasonably entertaining.

Have you tried The Breaker? It's another over the top martial arts shounen-esque manwha that's quite good. It takes a long time for the main character to develop but once you're over that hump it's quite entertaining.

I've been reading through a manga series called EDEN. And it... goes weird places. If you read the first book on its own it might seem like some sort of post apocalyptic setting with a boy and a girl surviving the end of the world. But then it kind of mindscrews with the reader by fast forwarding about a decade or two. The girl is missing, the boy is now a... drug baron, and it kind of spirals in crazier and crazier directions.

Very much a mature book, in the blood and violence sense.

The only ones I'm currently reading are Naruto and Vinland Saga. I also switched to the Naruto manga when the anime became unbearable. I'm really enjoying Vinland Saga but the releases are getting further apart it seems It starts out all berserker Viking, violence and fighting everywhere, but it's taken a turn for a more introspective approach which is refreshing.

I'll have to check out EDEN since it sounds right up my alley.

Thanks for the recommendation, Latrine; I'll be sure to check it out. Veritas has really nice dynamic illustration, detail, and the frame syntax to still make it flow like an animated experience (not as good as Hikaru no Go). It's not as common as I would like in comics, or even in manga.

ahrezmendi:

I love the quality of gun and car porn in Gunsmith Cats. It's detailed and accurate, but not dead photorealism. Sometimes, I pause for a while on a page just to admire a nice pistol.

Hows the trigger discipline in Gunsmith Cats?

speaking of Eden manga, Cage of Eden is always fun!

Tamren wrote:

Hows the trigger discipline in Gunsmith Cats?

You can google the title for images. I found Sonoda quite good about the trigger discipline of gunmen who are supposed to know what they're doing. He's something of a gun nut so it's not surprising that he would be conversant with that kind of detail. Initially, I thought that Rally's insistence on keeping her finger conspicuously off the trigger when she's not aiming it to be something of an affectation.

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