Doctor Who *Spoilers Abound! We've lost Containment*

I enjoyed that one, far less frenetic and a chance to develop some characters. I do seem to remember both B5 and SG1 episodes on similar lines though.

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Also seemed to develop a few ideas voiced (written ?) on here about the Doctor becoming a little more willing to see people get injured or punished. In a way, it's starting to remind me of the darker undercurrent to the somewhat under-rated Seventh Doctor (Sylvester McCoy), who's arc was developing in interesting directions, although somewhat limited by stories being re-ordered and the realisation that some of the powers-that-were at the BBC were not interested in putting money into the show. Certainly stories such as the Wolves of Fenric stand up pretty well to viewing even now.

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Anyone else note that now the Doctor claims to be 1200 years old? Wasn't he 900 not too long ago? Has he been alone that long?

Nosferatu wrote:
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Anyone else note that now the Doctor claims to be 1200 years old? Wasn't he 900 not too long ago? Has he been alone that long?

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It's established at the beginning of the previous season that the Doctor who was "killed" is considerably older than the one traveling with the Ponds, so sometime during that season he spent quite a bit of time on his own. He's also been spending more and more time away from the Ponds before the current season began.

Nosferatu wrote:
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Anyone else note that now the Doctor claims to be 1200 years old? Wasn't he 900 not too long ago? Has he been alone that long?

The Doctor doesn't always use the same meaning of "year" that we do. He said so several incarnations back. It's pretty futile to try to figure out how old he actually is.

There were two Doctors in the first episode of season six. The one we see first is actually the one from the end of season six and is over 1100 years old. The one we see second is the one we last saw at the end of season five who is over 900 years old. The reason for the difference is that after he dropped off Amy and Rory towards the end of season six, he spent hundreds of years avoiding his death.

timey wimey

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Between "The God Complex" and "Closing Time" he seems to have spent 300 years running about before accepting the inevitability of what was supposed to happen Lake Silencing. That probably makes 11 the oldest incarnation; by my reckoning, only 1 could be older.

Behind the scenes S7E3 (there's at least one spoiler):

McChuck wrote:

The one we see first is actually the one from the end of season six and is over 1100 years old.

Not necessarily true. Remember Rule 1, and that we only have the Doctor's word on that.

I haven't seen anything from 7 yet, so I don't know if he's referenced his age again since.

Strewth wrote:

I haven't seen anything from 7 yet, so I don't know if he's referenced his age again since.

He does reference his age again.

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He actually says in the most recent episode that he's 1200 years old.

More than half way through Episode 3 now, just watched the "Human Nature" and "The Family Blood" two parters, which I really enjoyed. I am firmly in Martha camp at this point.

Yonder wrote:

More than half way through Episode 3 now, just watched the "Human Nature" and "The Family Blood" two parters, which I really enjoyed. I am firmly in Martha camp at this point.

I'll be interested in hearing what you think of Martha after you've seen her whole arc. Human Nature and Family of Blood were very good to her, though.

spider_j wrote:

Good episode tonight, though

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Ben Browser died far too early on. Continuing expansion of the Doctor's slide to a darker place. The line from the trailer about what happens when he travels alone echoes both Rose in season 1 and the Waters Of Mars ending.

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Interesting that you thought Ben Browder died too early when he died a ways past the half-way point (26 minutes into a 43 minute episode).

Definitely more of a dark side to the Doctor in this episode. The teaser for next week's episode suggests the Ponds making a decision to leave the Doctor and then getting killed in One Last Adventure. Curious to see how the Doctor who travels alone and uses a gun responds to that.

As for my own pet theory:

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No sign of the Doctor being forgotten by anyone in this episode. About the closest I could spot was that the Gunslinger is remembered rather than the Doctor, but that's reaching. So, 2/3 episodes to support my wife's theory.

Overall, I enjoyed "A Town Called Mercy." The plot was pretty easy to puzzle out in advance, but it was well-executed and entertaining. I had expected it to be bad, because Old West episodes in sci-fi are always bad, but it was pretty enjoyable overall.

It also points toward what I think is one of the differences between Moffat's run on the show and Davies': the use of science fiction elements in the setting. If this had been a Davies episode, it would have been set on an alien world in the far future with a sort of space western feel to it. There'd be all kinds of wacky aliens in Old West getup, laser pistol revolvers, and that kind of thing. Moffat, meanwhile, sets the same story on Earth in the historic Old West. The plot doesn't change much with the setting, but it changes the feeling and tone of the show. I'm reminded of episodes like "Midnight" that could have been done on a tour bus on Earth but were instead done on a tour bus on a planet made out of giant poisonous crystals.

There's nothing wrong with either approach, really, although I prefer the more grounded settings to the more fantastic ones.

I guess they could have written it differently, but I thought the plot elements in Midnight were written to create that tension. The atmosphere was poisonous/decompressive so they couldn't leave the shuttle, and the light caused a radiation so that they couldn't see outside for more than a few moments. Contrived elements, sure, but setting the scene up in a way that wouldn't have been as plausible for a tour group on earth.

Although I've never seen the show, I recognized the teen in that episode from the commercials for Merlin.

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That is several shades of awesome.

Did you take that picture or did you find it somewhere?

Strewth wrote:

That is several shades of awesome.

Did you take that picture or did you find it somewhere?

I yoinked it from Wil Wheaton's tumblr feed; he had retumbled it from someone else.

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Bah chances are if the know Monty Python they know Doctor Who.

PS edit:
Hmm both my posts so far started out with bah, maybe I'm cranky today.

Very cute series of reviews of this season by a four year old:

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I really liked today's episode a lot.

Me too.

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The plot was secondary to the characters, but I seriously doubt that's the last we'll be seeing of that particular bad guy.

A very throw away ex-machina resolution, though.

Did anyone else shout "It's the Brigadier's daughter!" When she introduced herself?

It's interesting the Ponds have lived through 10 years of subjective time.

spider_j wrote:

Me too.

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The plot was secondary to the characters, but I seriously doubt that's the last we'll be seeing of that particular bad guy.

A very throw away ex-machina resolution, though.

Did anyone else shout "It's the Brigadier's daughter!" When she introduced herself?

It's interesting the Ponds have lived through 10 years of subjective time.

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I've not seen much classic Who, but I LOVED the Brigadier, so I totally teared up when I realized that's who she was. The problem of the cubes/ship was resolved a bit quickly, but yeah, wasn't the point. Character was put above plot this time, and it was glorious.

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So if my math is right, after last night's episode (The Power of Three) the Ponds still have a Wii in their living room in the 2018-2022 timeframe?

T-Prime wrote:
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So if my math is right, after last night's episode (The Power of Three) the Ponds still have a Wii in their living room in the 2018-2022 timeframe?

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I think you misunderstood - it's been ten years for them, running around time and space with the Doctor, but only a couple of years for their friends back on Earth. Episodes set on contemporary Earth are generally supposed to be taking place fairly close to the air date.

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I was thinking about this last night. They could see a friend one day, spend 6 months running about with the Doctor, and then see the same friend the following day. 6 months passed for Ponds, 24 hours fir the friend. Tricky. I hope that he set them up with a decent scheduling app.