Doctor Who *Spoilers Abound! We've lost Containment*

onewild wrote:

Well after making an decent episode with Village of the Angels (although I still think they were miles better as just predators and not master villians). That was a hot mess of all plot and no story. How he plans on wrapping it all up in just one hour I have no idea but I sure don't think its going to be pretty.

I have some sympathy with this.

This series feels like a staggeringly ambitious attempt to draw together myriad strands from nearly 60 years of Dr Who lore, and weave it into the origin story started the last series (the 'The Timeless Child'. which itself was a hugely ambitious bit of retconning). Viewed from that perspective alone, it's almost certain to fail.

But I understand why the BBC is doing this. Doctor Who began in 1963, and has inevitably become somewhat stale (Exactly how many times has Earth been menaced by the Cybermen, again?) The one area of potentially fertile new ground is the origin of the Doctor themselves. This story has largely been hand-waved away with some guff about the Doctor stealing a TARDIS in order to have adventures (or something).

In the intervening 63 years, the sci-fi genre has moved on considerably, tackling increasingly large themes with contemporary resonances. Doctor Who has, well, become a little childish compared to - to pick a few - the Battlestar Galacticas and Stranger Things of this world.

My hope is that this sets up a new (and perhaps final) phase for the property, with The Doctor travelling with a specific objective: to discover their origins and find their species (which will almost certainly had died out somehow, I bet).

Personally, I'd like to see the vast, sprawling story drawn together in a similar way to 'The Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy' via the last (proper) book, 'Mostly Harmless'.

I feel like the series has gotten "messy". It seems to happen with a lot of long-running franchises. I feel the same way about Trek, Stargate, etc. The writers are forced to come up with bigger threats, which means the protagonists have to scale up in power or cleverness, but if the writing is poor, the cleverness ends up being some sort of deus ex machina instead.

It will be interesting to see where Russell T. Davies takes it when he returns as the showrunner.

There's been a marathon leading up to the New Year's special, and I decided to re-watch the season of Capaldi two-parters (skipping the terrible Sleep No More eye spores episode). I know a lot of people didn't like Capaldi, but I think that was one of the best seasons. Maybe because it felt like the old serials, and Missy is just the best villain.

I enjoyed the special effects and the actors. Story left me cold though.

"Eve of the Daleks" feels like one of those productions that's clearly done the way it was done because of COVID but makes you forget the COVID restrictions fairly quickly. Also, Aisling Bae. Also, Yaz is on the inevitable path to disappointment.

Completely forgot about this. Will check it out next.

Rat Boy wrote:

. Also, Yaz is on the inevitable path to disappointment.

Like every Doctor Who fan ever... ;(

That was by far Chibell's best work, in that it was atucally good. Amazing what having a straight forward plot (Delaks want to kill the Doctor) with a little twist (Time Loop) will do instead of trying to rewrite Doctor Who history.
Also nice to see they moved beyond Queer Baiting and had Yaz come out, two episodes left for that to go somewhere, even if just the Doctor saying no because it never ends well, I mean it can't end well since the Doctor changes every so often and is also outlives everyone else.

Who was the guy watching the fireworks?

He is special.

onewild wrote:

He is from The Woman who Fell to Earth

Oh, I forgot about him. I thought it was Jeff watching his fireworks along with the rest of his stash going up, and wondered why he wasn't peeved. Karl makes more sense.

Rat Boy wrote:

New doctor.

Nice!

Solid, could be really fun. Reminds me a little of Mos Def as Ford Prefect.

Rat Boy wrote:

New doctor.

My wife has seen the show Sex Education that he's in and says he's the best thing about it, so she is VERY excited at this news.

First season of that show was great. Been meaning to catch up

Veloxi wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:

New doctor.

My wife has seen the show Sex Education that he's in and says he's the best thing about it, so she is VERY excited at this news.

Yup. He's AMAZING in that show, particularly in the last season.

BY THE WAY, The BBC is putting out a weekly story podcast, Dr Who : Redacted. Which is EXTREMELY queer with a trans main character (and the other two are bisexual and lesbian) and it's great! Worth listening to so far (4/10? episodes)

pyxistyx wrote:

BY THE WAY, The BBC is putting out a weekly story podcast, Dr Who : Redacted. Which is EXTREMELY queer with a trans main character (and the other two are bisexual and lesbian) and it's great! Worth listening to so far (4/10? episodes)

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I was unsure after the first episode, but I'm hooked now. It's woven itself seamlessly and elegantly into post-2005 Doctor Who universe. I'm excited about where it's going to go.

I hope I can get my son into Doctor Who!

Rat Boy wrote:

New doctor.

Old doctor.

Spoiler:

And Donna.

Your link is broke but here's another

AAHHHHHOOMMMMGGGGGG

Spoiler:

I’m going to try not to build my hopes up that they’ll finally “fix” what happened to Donna so I won’t be disappointed when it’s totally not that. Still the maddest I’ve ever been because of a TV show.

The family and I have started a rewatch of the modern series. We got to the Farting Aliens... oh my. I remember many years ago my wife and I almost gave up on Doctor Who after those episodes, but going back as a entrenched fan they are a hoot.

Guests confirmed to be in the anniversary special, to my knowledge:

10th Doctor
11th Doctor
12th Doctor
Tegan
Ace
Donna
Wilf

Did I miss any?

The 10th Doctor is definitely my WILF, but I wouldn't kick the 13th out of bed, either.

I'm guessing they did all these reveals well in advance of the 60th anniversary because they're presently filming out in public.

Me, like, a couple of weeks ago after the new doctor announcement: "Great, now give us a trans companion you cowards!"

Me today: *general overall sense of smugness*