Doctor Who *Spoilers Abound! We've lost Containment*

And the series is over. Oh and we won't be getting another one till 2020.

Highlights -
Jodie Whitaker and Bradley Walsh - I seriously think that the overall theme of the series should have been Graham dealing with his grief because boy that was the best stuff.
The 2 historical episodes were easily the two best episodes of the series and I would love for these writers to get more episodes.
As single episodes, I didn't truely hate any single one, there was certainly bad ones but nothing reached the lows of the worst of RTD.

Lowlights -
Chibell is a terrible show runner and a very average writer. I can only assume he didn't bother talking to his other writers, as the Doctor's views on killing were all other the place. And it had non-lethal options that rivaled Dishonoured in terms of "yeah death would have been better"
3 companions is too many, there just isn't enough screen time for all of them to have a meaningful arch. If one of Yaz or Ryan hadn't been there, then the other one could have had something like Graham had to work with.
The episodes didn't work as a whole.
Sonic Screwdriver as a magic wand is getting old, I know this isn't just a this series problem but it's just getting old and boring now.

farley3k wrote:

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Person on the right looks like Thelma; person on the left looks like Fred. Where's Shaggy and Scooby, and why did I not think before that they'd make great companions?

I’m just glad I’m not the only one who saw the resemblance to the Scooby Gang!

And Old Man Smithers in the middle, after his unmasking.

This was the weakest season, imo. Hope this doesn't lead to JW leaving as the writers have failed to flesh out any of the characters or provide them with anything interesting to add to the show and they don't really "support" the doctor's character either.

Unlikely. given that it's had the best ratings Dr Who's seen in about a decade. Weak episodes or no, and as much as certain "fans" would be more than happy to see it crash and burn, it's been a pretty huge success for the Beeb.

I'm happy that it's been so successful. I do hope future seasons with this cast and crew give a bit more to chew on, though. I was telling my wife last night that as excited as I was about the cast and the potential directions that could all go in, I've been lukewarm on the season as a whole. I haven't finished watching it, and I'm not sure I will.

For all of the upheaval in the casting of the Doctor and her companions, it felt like an exceedingly safe series. Enough so that I wonder if that was negotiated with higher-ups as part of the deal to get Whittaker, Cole, and Gill cast in the first place. Whittaker seemed at times to be doing a passing impersonation of Tennant instead of making the role her own, and the stories seemed fairly tame and by-the-numbers. (As a counterpoint, and as a demonstration of my poor taste and heartlessness, I didn't like much of anything about the Rosa Parks episode.)

I think there's enormous potential in the show right now—more than there's been in awhile—and I hope that future series will see them embracing that potential more, now that they've established that, yes, this cast and this Doctor and this showrunner can make it work.

Watched the new years special. I liked it. Only had a few minor problems with it. Going to be a long wait for the next season.

Can we get a McGann spinoff TV series?

Ha! What!? I need to get more of these audio productions.

RIP Terrance Dicks, One of Doctor Who's Most Vital Writers

Terrance Dicks, one of the most influential writers in Doctor Who’s entire history, has died at the age of 84.

Dicks’ contribution to Doctor Who is legendary—after starting in television writing scripts for the haunting supernatural series The Avengers, he first joined the Doctor Who production team as an assistant script editor in 1968 with the Second Doctor serial “The Seeds of Death”, a series of scripts Dicks would ultimately play a major part in re-writing that lead not only to him becoming Script Editor on the show, but the writer behind “The War Games”, the 10-part epic that ended Patrick Troughton’s time as the Doctor.

From there, Dicks helped steer the era of the Third Doctor alongside equally legendary producer Barry Letts, completely re-imagining the series as the titular Time Lord found himself momentarily exiled on Earth. Although Dicks and Letts would join Pertwee in leaving in 1974, he had an important part to play in helping shape Who’s future even further with the casting of Tom Baker as the Fourth Doctor. After he had departed as Script Editor, Dicks continued to write for Doctor Who, scripting stories like Baker’s debut, “Robot”, “The Brain of Morbius”, “Horror of Fang Rock”, and “State of Decay”. His final script for the series was actually one of the show’s most ambitious up to that point: “The Five Doctors”, the legendary 20th anniversary special. In all, over 150 episodes of the series were edited or written by Dicks, leaving an indelible mark on the program’s history.

Wow. RIP, Terrance Dicks. I can't even remember how many times I'd sit down to watch DW as a kid and his name would pop up. I guess it was over 150 times! A sad day for Who fans everywhere.

Trailer for the 2020 season has dropped.

Looks great.

And reminds me I really, really am behind on this show.

Still haven't found a way to watch last year's Christmas special. I've gotten kinda meh about the show the last few seasons. I like Jodi, just not feeingling the stories for some reason. Kinda felt the same about Capaldi.

We don't have cable, and have streamed these via Amazon the last few years. It's not entirely clear to me if that's going to be an option for this season; does anyone know?

We definitely prefer streaming options that also eliminate the ads. And of course we'd love a (legal) option that didn't involve a 24-hour delay.

A remix of the above trailer.

Series 12: Release Date Trailer

Is there going to be a holiday episode this year? We still haven't watched last year's.

PaladinTom wrote:

Is there going to be a holiday episode this year? We still haven't watched last year's.

bighoppa wrote:

Still haven't found a way to watch last year's Christmas special. I've gotten kinda meh about the show the last few seasons. I like Jodi, just not feeingling the stories for some reason. Kinda felt the same about Capaldi.

Agree on both. After a year of finding stuff to watch, never clicked that holiday episode on the DVR. At this point I think we'd enjoy rewatching all the Tennant/Smith episodes instead.

PaladinTom wrote:

Is there going to be a holiday episode this year? We still haven't watched last year's.

Last year's holiday episode was actually on New Year's instead of Christmas. Maybe this season's premiere is doing double-duty as the holiday special.

I don't love the move from a Christmas special to a New Years one. Christmas is fun. New Years is bleh. And just shifting it into the start of the season makes it feel even less special. I have preferred it in seasons past where the season had ended a few months earlier and/or the next season was a few months away, but the Christmas special was a fun little bit of Doctor Who that appeared when I forgot it was even coming.

As someone who caught on to Doctor Who around 2010 or so and slowly worked through the entirety of the relaunched series over a year or two, my enjoyment of the last few season has been diminished. I'm not sure how much of that is an issue of the quality of the show and how much is just my own interest, but I think if the start of this season doesn't grab me, I might knock it off of my regular rotation and plan to catch up in chunks later. I have fond memories of whole weekends in like 2010 or 2011 where I played a video game on one screen and watched a few episodes of Christopher Eccleston or David Tennant Who on another screen. The three kids I've acquired since those years makes it unlikely I'll have many weekends like that anywhere in my near future, but maybe I'll end up enjoying this show more in an after-the-fact binge process than keeping up with it every week.

I think it's just better in marathon form. There are always good/bad episodes but there have been some great doctor and companion sorry arcs the last decade+. Watching an entire arc unfold in a few days or weeks is a lot more satisfying than over months or years.

My wife and I quit watching for new episodes the last 2-3 years and just wait until there's a whole season and we're still enjoying it.

deftly wrote:
PaladinTom wrote:

Is there going to be a holiday episode this year? We still haven't watched last year's.

Last year's holiday episode was actually on New Year's instead of Christmas. Maybe this season's premiere is doing double-duty as the holiday special.

Correct, the new years episode is kicking off the next series.

Yeah, I think that makes sense. It probably shouldn't be a surprise that I found it more enjoyable when I was watching it in big chunks that I kinda let wash over me while paying varying levels of attention than when I've been finding time each week to sit down and watch each episode with my wife. But also I think Steven Moffat was a much better single episode storyteller than he was a showrunner, so another part of the reason week by week started to wear on me was the season plots felt too complicated and convoluted. Not sure what I think of Chibnall yet...the last season didn't leave a strong impression on me other than that I thought the cast was pretty good. Not a lot of bad episodes, not a lot of stand-outs. If I'm not feeling this season by 3 or 4 episodes in, I may just cancel the DVR recording and plan to return to it some time in the future.

I have been trying to watch the Peter Capaldi run and dang I don't like him so I skipped to the "Twice Upon a Time" one where he meets the first doctor so I could see him regenerate. Happy to skip his era.

I also watched the "The Day of the Doctor" episode with Tennet and Smith - and it is just clear as crystal to me that they are better. Their acting, their chemistry, the whole thing was so much better than Capaldi's multiple doctor episode that I was kind of shocked.

Anyway now I have Foster's first series from the library - hopefully I will like her.

Its a new year and a new Who is out.