Doctor Who *Spoilers Abound! We've lost Containment*

Dr Who writer Gareth Roberts says a bunch of transphobic stuff on Twitter.

TW for the "T" word.

Looks like he's another one of those "Gay men who think Trans women are just in denial about being super-gay" that also (like his dr who contemporary, John Barrowman btw).

Happily he's not writing for the series right now.

Oh dear. That's disappointing. I've also seen a great deal of hate directed towards bi folks from some of the gay community. Wonder if its caused by a similar mind set?

Just found a Dr Who reference in Agents of Mayhem.

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Which reminds me. Am I being dense or did Moffets cracks in the universe, Tardis exploding plot make no sense?

strangederby wrote:

Which reminds me. Am I being dense or did Moffets cracks in the universe, Tardis exploding plot make no sense?

Nope, not just you. It's kind of Moffat's thing.

In fact, it's a long (seriously - 1 hour 45min) watch but i'd recommend this...

Ignore the click-baitey title.
(technically it's mostly about Sherlock, but it's basically a critique of Moffat in general). The Dr Who stuff is mostly up front and a bit specifically about the crack in time stuff around 20minutes in.

strangederby wrote:

Oh dear. That's disappointing. I've also seen a great deal of hate directed towards bi folks from some of the gay community. Wonder if its caused by a similar mind set?

Bisexual invisibility and erasure is an ongoing issue. If you're bisexual and in a heterosexual relationship, you're seen as heterosexual; likewise, if you're bisexual and in a homosexual relationship, you're seen as homosexual. That can lead to a lot of people assuming that you're not actually bisexual but instead that you're actually gay and in denial about it, or you're actually straight and "going through a phase".

The trans issue that Roberts and Barrowman have is a little similar. To them, trans women (and, as ever, they ignore the sh*t out of trans men) are either drag queens who take their alternate persona way too seriously, or they're gay men who are so unwilling to accept their sexuality that they'd rather change their gender. Either way, to them, trans women are just gay men. That most (something like 80%) of trans women have female partners is lost on them or else brushed off.

It's garden variety prejudice, it's just coming from people who think that being a sexual minority makes them immune from being ignorant and bigoted about other people's gender and sexuality.

strangederby wrote:

Which reminds me. Am I being dense or did Moffets cracks in the universe, Tardis exploding plot make no sense?

It's a fine refrigerator story. It worked well enough at the time, and I thought the revelation of where and when the Silence arose was neat. It put a nice little bow on Matt Smith's run on the show, and I liked how it all came together in the end.

Besides, I'd rather have an endless succession of twisty, not-sure-they-work exploding TARDIS stories than unending seasons of Clara Clara Clara.

I have trouble focusing on plot when Karen Gillan is on the screen.

Quintin_Stone wrote:

I have trouble focusing on plot when Karen Gillan is on the screen.

That sentiment would explain the script behind Guardians of the Galaxy 2.

That WW2 story amd The girl in the fireplace were really good but since then Moffets writeing seems to have gone right down the pan.

strangederby wrote:

That WW2 story amd The girl in the fireplace were really good but since then Moffets writeing seems to have gone right down the pan.

The video I posted above posits that Moffat is excellent when he's limited to a one or two episode piece where he's effectively forced to tell a good story that works within a very limited time frame. PLus a set budget, with someone in place to be able to say "no" to him when required.

No series-long "mysteries" / unanswered questions / secret conspiracies.

As soon as he got complete control over the entire series with the ability to do whatever he wanted with a (relatively) unlimited budget and time? That's when he goes a bit...crap.

Plus, it turns of the producers he uses, who are normally supposed to reign his excesses in.... one is his mother in law, and I *think* the other is usually his wife? That might just have been on Sherlock and/or Jekyl though, I don't remember exactly which shows they were connected with.

pyxistyx wrote:

No series-long "mysteries" / unanswered questions / secret conspiracies.

But those are fun, especially if they never get explained.

Alz wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:

I have trouble focusing on plot when Karen Gillan is on the screen.

That sentiment would explain the script behind Guardians of the Galaxy 2.

Nah, there's two simple words to explain that: "fan service"

So, Torchwood: Aliens Among Us Part 2 just came out and I finished it just now... I am just flabbergasted, so many WTF moments in this new series...

Spoiler:

The return of Bilis Manger in this second part is great, and the completely unexplained return of Yvonne Hartman from Torchwood One being chief among them.

Companions (three) officially revealed. and it turns out that Bradley Walsh rumour wasn't a rumour :O

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Jodie Whittaker, who takes over as the 13th Doctor next year, will be joined by new cast regulars Bradley Walsh, Tosin Cole and Mandip Gill, as well as Sharon D Clarke in a returning role.
Walsh will star as Graham, Cole will play Ryan and Gill will play Yasmin.

New Doctor and three new companions? Sounds terrible. I hope I'm wrong, but I can't see how they can flesh out all these characters and do them justice in 40 minute episodes.

liquid wrote:

New Doctor and three new companions? Sounds terrible. I hope I'm wrong, but I can't see how they can flesh out all these characters and do them justice in 40 minute episodes.

Technically, the very first episode already had the Doctor and three companions. This doesn't have to be a bad thing.

The first, fourth and fifth doctors have all had 3 companions at one time or another. Plus there's short stint's like Rory, Amy and River , or Jack, Rose and Ricky...er...i mean Mickey.

I’m always interested when they break from the standard of one young female companion (which is not to say that some of those young females haven’t been wonderful).

Doctor Who's New Doctor Has a New Outfit
*I will withhold judgement but I am not liking it yet.

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Apart from the t-shirts echoes of Tom Baker's legendary scarf... Oh. Dear.

*Searches for facepalm gif*

I think it looks cool.

I think it looks a bit like something Robin Williams would have worn as Mork. To me that's a positive statement.

I dig the 6th Doctor braces.

Don't like the horizontal stripe. The rest is pretty different and cool. Certainly provides the government recommended dose of Whimsy.

I'm sure that they had a long conversation about whether or not she should wear a skirt or pants and they were not sure what to do, so that's why they have come up with this thing that is neither fish nor fowl? I won't judge until I see it in action, but I do like the colour palette, so it could have been much worse. I wonder how much of her we'll see in the Christmas special – which is the first Christmas Special since 2008 I'm actually excited about.

LouZiffer wrote:

I think it looks a bit like something Robin Williams would have worn as Mork. To me that's a positive statement.

Either that or Wesley Crusher's ensign uniform...

I'm not quite a fan... it doesn't seem very general purpose, which seems like a practical issue for the doctor. I guess anything after the 60's it would fit, and anything before then isn't the best for practical women's clothing anyway.

I agree with Pyxistyx on the whimsy part. I am hopeful that means she is a more whimsical doctor as I prefer Doctor Who to be less dark in general. I mean Matt Smith had a lot of dark episodes, but he was in general a happy and whimsical doctor. It makes the whole thing more fun to watch for me, darkness always seems more significant if there is hope and/or happiness next to it..

Call it happy and whimsical. Call it Matt Smith-esque. I care not.

Literally all I want from the new Doctor is a female re-incarnation of Tom Baker's Doctor.

I am 46 and I am entitled to that.